Tuesday, June 22, 1999
Early Childhood/Elementary
Math Resources and Materials
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Djinn - Hello Everyone!
Welcome to the ece chatroom. Tonight we will be talking about math.
kidbiz - We use addison
wesley in my district.
Yonder - no series.
We draw from Math Their Way and Aimes
k - Anyone use MathLand?
Jules - We use Anytime
Math, I don't care for it.
Djinn - I teach Kindergarten
and use a lot of Math Their Way -
Djinn - Jules -we
are using anytime, but not very effectively
Katharine - I have
Mathland. My district bought it for everybody.
Doug - k- I piloted
mathland kept the materials and our district bought Quest
kidbiz - I have also
used the Box it and Bag it ideas.
Laurie/AR - We are
using Scott Foresman/ Addison Wesley for this year only. Next year we are
using Investigations in Number, Data, and Space.
Katharine - I teach
1-2. I like the Mathland manips because they are very MathTheir Way, but
came all ready to go.
Djinn - Right now
I am prepping my first unit from Math Excursions - K Heinemann
Katharine - But Mathland
doesn't reach many of the state standards. If any
Djinn - What kinds
of center materials are you using? Is there something that is working well
for you?
Mary K&1 - Am
I the only one who doesn't use any particular program?
k - This is true
katharine. I taught kinder this year and it didn't cover addition or graphing
(i think) -- we had to ad-lib
Sandy/K/MO - my kids
love the pattern block puzzles
S.G. - Hey everybody,
how about home made manipulatives?
Sandy/K/MO - no Mary...
I don't have any books.. :-)
Katharine - Djinn,
for centers all the Maththeir way games are perfect. I have them in shoe
boxes
Yonder - You aren't
alone, Mary.
Doug - Want to laugh
at our district? We (in K) have so many benchmarks and problem of the weeks
that we basically just test kids...its very sad
Laurie/AR - My kids
liked to play with Attribute Blocks. We have this neet game they play.
They love pattern blocks.
Jules - my kids liked
patterning too, pattern links, puzzles, etc
Casper - I use Math
Their Way...most manipulatives are homemade...
Djinn - S.G. I use
a lot of dyed macaroni! That way they can glue and record patterns
S.G. - Spray paint
lima beans on one side only, throw on table use for add and subtraction.
Jules - Doug, you
aren't alone. We test too much too!
Katharine - Mary,
we haven't anything good to use. I've saved a workbook for 8 years so I
can make dittos from it!!!
Laurie/AR - We use
dice to make addition sentences at the beginning of the year. Soon after
though I fizzle out of ideas.
Sandy/K/MO - we do
a dice game with the links... they like to play that and dice addition
bingo
kidbiz - Dominos
are fun to use also for addition and subtraction.
Jules - Stamps are
fun for patterning too. They have these really neat jumbo stamps at art
stores that come in all different shapes, designs.
S.G. - I made math
boxes using everything you can think of , button, beans, screw, shells,
beads..
Casper - Does anyone
have a sequence that they teach with?
Doug - Djinn- any
nice good starting points for K? I like to start with information about
ourselves
Marcia - I have used
dice games allot. So many to choose from.
Linda - Our teachers
hate Mathland.
Yonder - S.G. Those
are my favorites too. When i teach the numbers, I use them so they get
the concept of addends.
Katharine - We use
dominos to make addition sentences too.
k - We used the GEMS
Treasures Unit to collect math mateirals to add to our existing program.
It was great to have so many authentic, personal manipulatives
Laurie/AR - What
do you have them do with he math boxes, S.G.
Djinn - I am going
to start with All about Me this year and then go into buttons and sorting
Katharine - Linda,
I hate mathland too. I just like the 'toys'
S.G. - Yes, yonder.
Patterns , more and less, one more than one less than etc.
Casper - I call those
junk boxes...
Djinn - Because or
standards have expanded I am going to have to Up the ante on my program
this year
Casper - You can
do patterning, addition, subtraction,... The kiddos bring items from home
(more personal)
Sandy/K/MO - we start
with M&M's counting and graphing
Mary K&1 - I
teach all math using manipulatives of all sorts - never do "papers" - at
the end of the year, I gave the kids an addition paper just to see what
would happen, and every child did it completely correctly except for one
child who has some serious learning disabilities - I found it to quite
interesting.
Jules - Do any of
you use the Everyday Counts program?
Laurie/AR - There's
a great button activity to use with Frog and Toad Together The Button.
You have to skip around with the pages or the kids will figure out which
button is the "Lost" button.
S.G. - Laurie they
each have their own box and we do these activities together. I model by
putting the same objects on the overhead sometimes.
Doug - Djinn- tell
us more
Yonder - We had peanut
allergies so M&Ms were out this year. We used Skittles instead.
Katharine - I forget
how to dye macaroni -- something about food coloring & vinigar?
Jules - SG...so each
kid has a box?
Kathleen - Mary,
that's an interesting observation, that hands-on IS an effective way to
teach so that kids can still do well on tests
Casper - use alcohol...
S.G. - Jules, Yes,
I teach alot of large group activities with these.
Doug - Anyone tile
with Marci Cook stuff?
Sandy/K/MO - we do
both with M&M's and skittles this year *gasp* some didn't like choc.
Linda - State of
CA seems to feel the same about mathland.
Peachy/K/NC - rubbing
alcohol, Kat? Haven't used vinegar.
Djinn - In Kindergarten
they are expected to write, sequence and recognize numbers from 0-30. In
the 1st grade it is to 100
Laurie/AR - I have
some Math tiles too. I didn't use them this past year though. I need to
drag those out for next year.
RainyD/K/FL - macaroni--food
coloring and alcohol works
Linda - Yes and in
2nd to 1000.
Mary K&1 - Kathleen,
they really understand the concepts and I think that that is the most important
bottom line - they aren't just going through some motions without
understanding exactly what they are doing
Djinn - I also have
to add problem solving to the mix
Casper - Does anyone
do "counting on"?
Katharine - alcohol,
okay. no vinegar
Kathleen - Math Their
Way materials and training can be found at the Center for Innovation in
Education http://www.center.edu/
S.G. - I teach mykids
to write to 100. We use calender math also.Great for place value and more.
chris - casper, what
do you mean?
k - mathland won't
meet the new CA math standards. It doesn't cover enough. We found that
out when we got the nes standards in Feb and were told to start implementing
them.
Peachy/K/NC - rubbing
alcohol, Kat? Haven't used vinegar.
kidbiz - Yes counting
on and counting back.
Linda - Pressure
is really on K teachers in CA
Kathleen - alcohol
and food coloring for coloring macaroni and rice, yes
angelasteachr - there
are some really neet things i used last year as counters
Djinn - Our standards
say that students will determine the answers to addition and subtraction
problems for two numbers- each less than 10
Casper - Like you
have the number 13 and the children count on adding manipulative till they
count to 20.
S.G. - Does anyone
use touch math?
Jules - What, in
your opinion is THE MUST HAVE manipulative in your room?
Mary K&1 - The
only papers that do are blank papers when they practice writing the numerals
- that of course comes after a lot of chalk board writing and playing with
magnetic numerals and other tactile numerals - they really get a" feel"
for the shapes of the numerals <gr>
Kathleen - SG, tell
us about Touch Math
Casper - Kid: What
activities do you do?
Linda - Some of my
students learned it in K
Katharine - I think
that touch math sounds real exciting!! have you tried it?
Sandy/K/MO - Casper,
we "count on" discuss place value a lot with calendar days
Laurie/AR - Yes,
I've been interested in Touch Math. I owuld like to know more about it.
Peachy/K/NC - I've
been hearing so much about Touch Math. Do you use it SG?
angelasteachr - we
had to teach addition and subtraction last year
Kathleen - hmm, good
question, jules...I'll have to think about that. I like dice, playing cards,
unifix cubes..
Linda - Jules--must
have clocks, money, base ten, geometric solids,
chris - casper, I
use a hundreds chart and dice. They roll the dice and count to that number.
For the older children I have them talley how many rolls it took to reach
100. I also write numbers on the board and they have to tell me which number
comes before it and which number comes after.
Laurie/AR - I love
pattern blocks.
k - Yes, Djinn. Our
kids got the additions and subtraction -- even for #s up to 10 (10 9=),
but it took about 4 really good weeks of concetration and review.
Katharine - Just
one thing, Jules? Decks of cards.
Casper - I think
milk lids, erasers (oriental)...
Sandy/K/MO - I found
a recipe of cornstarch & sand... cook it till cornstarch & water
disappear works great for making numbers & letters
Kathleen - jules,
I know! milk in cartons! LOL, the kids love to be the milk person, reading
the chart, counting out the milks
Linda - Oh, and fractions
blocks.
Mary K&1 - Jules,
that's too hard to answer!
Djinn - Here's another
one " decide about the approach, materials and strategies to use. Use tools
and strategies to model problesm, make precise calculations and check the
validity of the results from the context of the problem
Linda - Djinn-do
you have the standards in front of you?
Doug - Djinn- can
I bring up an issue for Kindergarten? I find that the benchmark and problem
of the week assessments are not authentic. Some kids who can't count to
10 do well on the counting test while others who can pattern using AAB
in one context but can't use AB in another. I am slowly trying to make
a point. the point being that we are not testing what we want to...the
original problem of authenticity...anyone feel this way?
Katharine - Djinn,
I can't even stand to real all that!!!!!!
angelasteachr - is
it really developmental appropiate for subtraction in kindergarten?
S.G. - Kathleen,
it really helps the children learn to recognize numbers to 9 and it's excellent
for adding and subtracting. There are specific places where the number
has a bot. One has one 2 has two, etc. The children touch the dots and
count. After they've learned the location of the dotes they no longer neeed
them. They siimply count the placces on top and count on using the dot
spaces on the bottom number to add, then start with the top number and
count backwards using the dot places on the number on bottom to subtract.
Djinn - Doug! I understand
your pain!LOL
Laurie/AR - Touch
math is just a visual way for them to count on and count back, right.
Linda - How do you
teach a child to count past 29. No matter what we do she can not count
past 29, and she is in 2nd grade.
Djinn - Linda- I
have the standards right here
Laurie/AR - Would
you use Touch Math for the entire class or just for some who have difficulty
with adding and subtraction?
Casper - Is Kindergarten
really entirly developmentally appropriate anymore?
Sandy/K/MO - Sub.
is a little more diff. but the kids handle it well angel
Djinn - Laurie- we
introduced touch math in Kinder last year - kind of an experiment - it
helped
k - I guess my 1st
graders will be meeting alot of the 2nd grade standards next year, since
they'll be together
Kathleen - Doug,
you are talking about California benchmarks and standards?
kidbiz - angelasteachr,
I think if k understands the concept of taking away is less and adding
is more that is sufficient.
S.G. - Anything is
developmentally appropriate if the child is ready. But yes, we have to
teach addition and subtraction in kinder , angelastea
chris - Are there
any pre-k teachers here? What are some things you do?
Laurie/AR - Some
kids transferred to our school and they were taught with touch math. It
seemed to really help.
angelasteachr - last
year was my first year in k and i felt that sub. was extremely hard for
them to understand
Denise - For the
teachers who use Touch Math in our school, the whole class uses it
kidbiz - I don't
think it is necessary for k to be memorizing facts!
Jules - We teach
addition, but only introduce subtraction in K
Djinn - Our State
standards are being reflected in our Star test - they will go back and
say well they should have learned that in K and 1
k - My kids actually
really enjoyed learning additon and subtraction. We'll see how much they
retain.
S.G. - I find that
touch math has helped them recognize the numbers faster and help those
kids who just couldn't learn them.
Marcia - s.g. I like
what you said. anything is app. if the child is ready.
Mary K&1 - Linda,
this may sound strange, but tell her that the people who named the numbers
should have called the number after 29 - Threety and then Threety-one,
Threety-two etc. she apparently isn't seeing or hearing the pattern - if
you call it like it looks, she may then start to understand where the names
came from
angelasteachr - addition
was easy for them
Sandy/K/MO - my kids
call it big kid math and love it.. we also do a lot of sub. with cereal
and they eat it away
kidbiz - A fun way
to practice subtraction with K is to use food. 5 skittles take away 1 have
them eat the manipulatives.
Laurie/AR - I have
a teacher friend who has the materials for touch math. I may use it next
year for my struggling students.
Djinn - I do a great
deal of sorting and tubbing to begin with.
Doug - Laurie- is
that the dotted thing on the numbers?
Casper - Do ya'll
do Whole group math or small group math?
Denise - Has anyone
seen the Accelerated Math program? If so, what's your opinion?
Marcia - coming from
a Montessori setting I like to use the kids and their bodies as much as
possible for learning
Peachy/K/NC - Neat
idea, MaryK&1. I'll try and remeber that!
Laurie/AR - Yes.
Each number has that many dots.
Sandy/K/MO - angelasteachr..
do some adding and sub from day one if you do the calendar math.. helps
later on
Djinn - Anyone using
tangrams?
Marcia - Sue plus
Tom equals Dan
k - I use mostly
small groups for math
Yonder - I introduced
subtraction with a goldfish game. Each child had a watercolored fish bowl.
they rolled 2 dice -one with #s and the other with and -. was to add fish
to the bowl. - they ate the fish. My kids love ediable math.
Jules - both, Casper
Sandy/K/MO - I use
tangrams a lot
pez/Fl - I do both
whole group and small group.
Doug - Djinn- rules
for tubbing...mine are: no throwing, no putting in pocket and no eating...can
I change them for better ones?
Marcia - Then give
them each a number value
Linda - Djinn--i
think the fractions is a bit much in 2nd. They not only have to recognize
and name fractions, but they have to compare them from 1/12 to 1/2/
pez/Fl - We do a
lot of tubbing also
Yonder - Other die
had plus and minus.
Sandy/K/MO - start
out with the story Grandfather Tang...then I have puzzles they complete
Marcia - Easy fractions
can be fun. Start with a pizza
Mary K&1 - Doug,
why would you want to change those rules? They sound good to me ...
Laurie/AR - How do
you manage centers in your classroom?
Sandy/K/MO - pizza
hut here did have a pizza fraction game for free
Peachy/K/NC - Are
your puzzles teacher-made or commercial, Sandy?
Djinn - Touch math
has a web page. http://www.touchmath.com/
Linda - They can
name and recognize, but have trouble comparing unless they are using manipulatives.
Casper - How early
into the school year do you start your small group?
Doug - Mary- they
are a little negative..no?
Sandy/K/MO - I have
both kinds Peachy...
angelasteachr - has
anyone heard of or using Saxon math?
Marcia - I created
some games on fractions for the overhead. Kids loved doing it. They learned
to wait their turn, too
Djinn - Linda - they
also talk about decimals but don't spell out the specifics
angelasteachr - we
may be using that next year
Denise - I'm piloting
Saxon Math for 2nd grade this fall.
Sandy/K/MO - I do
my own math... don't have books
Mary K&1 - Doug,
sometime you have to be direct!
Djinn - Sandy _ I
have several books - but I'm creating my own program
Doug - Mary- ain't
that the truth
Peachy/K/NC - I don't
have books either.
Sandy/K/MO - Marcia...
do you have the butterfly they make from cutting fractions. 2- 1/4's &
1/2 on one side and a whole on the other
Laurie/AR - We are
preparing our kids for the 4th grade ACTAP test where they have to write
about math.
angelasteachr - the
district has saxon phonics and saxon math for k..and we may get it
Denise - Djinn, I
think we all do that. I haven't found any program that really completely
fits my style or the kids' needs.
S.G. - After teaching
K for 19 years, I always go back to using my own methods of teaching math
too. Those teachers guides just don't cut it. We're getting something new
this year. I always remain hopeful for something good.
Linda - Heard of
and saw samples of Saxon--staff didn't like it.
Casper - How early
into the school year do you start your small group?
Katharine - They
bought every classroom some $200 worth of Mathland manips, and NO BOOKS
-- I'm so used to figuring out my own way, i wouldn't know what to do with
a text.
Marcia - no, I haven't
done that. I got transparent pastel report covers and cut circles and squares
into 1/2 and 1/4
Sandy/K/MO - they
stopped buying any thing for kdg. about 9 years ago but when they review
new series I see how I am doing
Jules - Casper, I
start mine in the first weeks of school.
Djinn - In grade
2 they must know the multiplication tables, of 2,5,10, use mental arithmetic
to find sums of 2 digit numbers , add and subtract three digit numbers
Denise - Linda, why
didn't the staff like Saxon. I haven't even see the program yet,
Casper - We start
a text this year...seems ok a little babyfied...
k - Don't worry katharine
- you're not missing much without the book
Sandy/K/MO - Marcia..
it's really cute and explains it well :-)
S.G. - Casper , if
you're talking about kinder, you start just as soon as you get them to
sit still, stay on task, don't interrupt. maybe after 3-4 weeks.
MT3 - we use mathland.
I really like it
Casper - Jules: What
grade do you teach?
Marcia - I did the
2,5,10 during line up times.
Sandy/K/MO - I think
they don't have much on the pages for the kids to do IF they were going
to do worksheets
cathy - I use our
text as mini-homework
Jules - Casper, Kindergarten
nat/k/ma - I came
to the meeting tonight because I wanted to hear teachers say that they
don't use books. I firmly believe in Math manipulatives. My prinicipal
is insisting that I use the workbooks so that my class will stay on line
with the whole school. Where has kindergarten gone? I've been teaching
for 28 years and think workbooks for k is crazy.
Marcia - I also gave
then cardstock of the same shapes and they did theirs while someone did
it on the overhead.
Laurie/AR - Our new
book this years seems to move real slow. First four chapters are on adding
and subtracting. That's just facts to 18, not regrouping.
Sandy/K/MO - nat
I only use manipulatives no workbooks
Djinn - Anyone use
Verstiles? I just found out about them. Really cool for 1st and 2nd as
a center. Check them out at : http://www.etauniverse.com
Katharine - you are
right, nat -- K shouldn't have workbooks
Yonder - I'm with
you nat.
Linda - They thought
Saxon was too similar to Mathland
cathy - Like I used,
use them as homework...its a win-win situation-the kids like it, he likes
it, the parents like it, and you don;t have to use it!!
S.G. - That's just
it, workbooks and teacher's edition move too slow.
Laurie/AR - Oh, yeah,
I have those too. It was confusing for some students. Most really liked
it.
Marcia - After the
kids could do the fractions with manip. I drew the shapes on the chaulkboard
and started doing it there. They drew their shapes on paper.
Mary K&1 - nat/k,
I'm with you - I tell them to just tell me what they want the kids to know
and I'll teach it to them and I can do it without a book!
Casper - I don't
remember the series, but our books are ok...they go right along wiith Math
Their Way and are very simple...
Djinn - We do very
little paper and pencil - it's all manipulatives. Yes they have to practice
writing numbers, but everything else is with manip.
Denise - Is Saxon
math scripted, like Saxon Phonics?
k - How do you assess
where the children are at in math skills at the beginning fo the year?
nat/k/ma - she is
insisting on workbooks for math and phonics. Please, this is just crazy.
Kindergarten should been child-centered. watch me hide the workbooks!!!!!
cathy - Can someone
explain how you manage tubbing in yourr classroom?
Marcia - I had a
1/2 at a private Montessori school. Some of the kids were doing 1/6, 1/8
Laurie/AR - One trick
I have learned is to write in the plan book what they want to see and then
do what you know is best for your students.
MT3 - nat have them
in plain site on the shelf so the principal can think you are using them...and
if push comes to shove, send some pages home for homework. The kids will
probably love it.
Sandy/K/MO - k...
we count things... but I test them in the spring so I pretty much already
know :-)
Casper - Cathy, Everyone
does it a little different to meet their own needs. I do it kinda like
MTW, but with stations.
Jules - Laurie, don't
give our secret away! :-)
Djinn - Cathy - I
introduce and model each tub as a whole class. Then put it on a table for
a small group. We go over procedures and rules. Everyone gets a turn -
then I put it in the math center for free exploration until I am ready
to assign a task
Eliz - Are there
any 5th grade teachers here?
S.G. - K- I usually
calll them one-by-one and see if they can identify numbers, count sets,
one-to-one correspondence, shapes, match a set to a number. Sometimes you
just stop at the beginning since they don't know anything.
Sandy/K/MO - I am
up the steps so they don't generally come up to see what we are doing.
S.G. - That is how
I assess what they know at the beginning of school.
Peachy/K/NC - Djinn,
what kinds of procedures and rule, say for unifix cubes?
k - How about 1st
or 2nd teachers? How do you assess at the beginning of the year?
Marcia - of course
the most popular in my room is math baseball.
Linda - Most of my
homework is math oriented, because too many of my parents do not speak
English or they didn't go very far in school.
Sandy/K/MO - Peachy
I have to tell them not to put in their mouths and they aren't swords
MT3 - I am 3rd but
I use the inventory from the math series. Usually pretty accurate.
Linda - Yes, kids
love to play math baseball. Also Quizmo.
Djinn - Peachy -
first rule NO THROWING !!!!!! LOL not kidding.
DEE - I do a lot
of individual testing one on one
S.G. - I would put
together a test to assess in 1st and 2nd.
nat/k/ma - I have
refused workbooks but they have been ordered. They are in boxes in the
store room. We are going from 2 kindergartens to 1 (me). So now she has
spent all that money $25 a book and wants me to use them. Watch!!!!!!!!
Linda - Another game
we play is T-Races. I posted it on AtoZ teachers Stuff.
Laurie/AR - I teach
2nd. I take work from 1st grade and I see who needs help, who needs enrichment.
Marcia - Last year
I had one boy who I swear was dyslexic. He could do math in his head faster
(almost) than I.
Katharine - re assess
-- I use the MTW one on one assessment
k - Test, assessment,
yes -- one on one? in 1st or 2nd
Sandy/K/MO - Nat...
put them in a box for rainy day fun at recess :-)
Jules - Sounds like
most of y'all do your own entrance assessment. Is Georgia the only state
with a "formal" assessment in math for kindergarten?
Gumbo/K/La - nat----out
math series has nothing but big flip charts and videos (!!!) and 3-4 books
of blackline masters........
DEE - We use Saxton
math I really like it. Does anyone else use it. It has a lot of manupulatives
Djinn - WE talk about
taking care of the things in our room. How to put them together and how
to take them apart and put them away. We make a long strip and then I show
them what happens if it gets too long. So they can choose to work on the
floor and not the table.
Mary K&1 - nat,
if you have to use them, then put them in the play center and let the kids
play school with them :o)
K - Does anyone use
Everyday Math? If so, how did you organize the manips?
Linda - 2nd grade
made up an assessment (needs revised) to check out students at beginning,
mid and end of year.
Denise - Dee, I've
asked before and didn't get a response. Is Saxon Math scripted?
MT3 - We use Investigations
and my school bought mathland.
DEE - Denise yes
Saxton is scripted.
Laurie/AR - MT3 How
do you like Investigations. We will be using it next year.
Sandy/K/MO - Dee,
I don't use any math books.. I think that's the way several of us are
Linda - Does anyone
know of some formal assessments for math that are not standardized tests.
Would like for K-2.
Djinn - Anytime math
is scrpted - very difficult for teacher to follow
Denise - Do you follow
the script, or just take the basic ideas and run with it?
Katharine - Do any
of you use a big "task board" type system to run kids through so many centers
a day?
DEE - I find that
even though you are to read it. After so long you pretty much know what
to say
Laurie/AR - I don't
think I could do anything that's scripted.
MT3 - I like it.
It has too many "worksheets' to run off, that really shouldn't be worksheets.
Like they will have a question at the top and then the rest of the page
blank for the kids to answer the question. heh. big waste.
Sandy/K/MO - Linda..
I just make up my own assessments for the quarter
DEE - Does any one
else use Saxton
Gumbo/K/La - we don't
use math books either.....we usually cover more than Quest and the other
series......
Jules - Djinn, my
Anytime Math sat in the corner this year. A couple of good games and the
lions are about all I use! Oh, the big books...
Denise - Yeah, that's
my fear. I don't think my principal will say anything about not following
the script, she's pretty cool. It's my year for evaluation though.
Linda - Sandy--that's
what we did.
Laurie/AR - We have
a copy limit. They will have to do away with that next year. I used the
Geometry section of Investigations. I did leave out half the worksheets.
I liked it though.
MT3 - Laurie, but
the program is good once you make all the games and stuff. The manual is
not that teacher-friendly, and there's lots of prep. But you can find ways
to cut the load of teacher prep if you are clever.
Djinn - Jules - the
games are great for centers- especially the 2nd grade kit
Tina - Does anyone
use Everyday Math? What do you think?
cathy - What gripes
me is that they order these math series that do suggest great activites
to go with literature, but then they never buy the literature!!!!
Linda - The kids
enjoy almost all math games.
MT3 - Laurie, our
teachers last year had a special investigations limit separate from their
regular copy limit. heh.
Jules - Djinn, I
just have the K, but it does have great games. The kids like them.
Denise - Our first
and second grade has used Saxon Phonics for a few years, but second grade
is going th MCP or teacher-made materials. We found that kids who come
in the middle of the year have a hard time picking up the sytem of marks.
Casper - What are
some must haves for reading in the Math center?
Laurie/AR - Our school
agreed to buy the literature mentioned in our new books. Thank goodness.
Now I don't have to go searching. I'll just have to fight with the other
teachers to get it.
Gumbo/K/La - math
center books: Ten Sly Piranhas....Ten Black Dots....hmmm-ten theme going
here :-)
Mary K&1 - Tina,
I've been told that those who have been well inserviced for Everyday Math
love it, those who haven't, hate it.
Yonder - That's why
they pay you the BIG Bucks, cathy- so you can provide them! LOL
Laurie/AR - The Greedy
Triangle!!!
Kathleen - Three
Little Pigs, Three Bears (3 Theme, get it? ;-)
Djinn - I use Grandfather
Tang to introduce tangrams. Another is 3 Pigs, One Wolf and & magic
shapes - scholastic
Sandy/K/MO - what
was really fun and we've talked about it before was a family math night
where parents come in and try to use the manip. with their kids :-)
cathy - Six Dinner
Sid, The Grouchy Ladybug, Anno's Counting Book, Bears, Goldilocks and the
Three Squares
DEE - Casper I would
have some activities with number words and sets. Simple story problems.
Depends on grade level
k - The Doorbell
Rang
Jules - Fish Eyes,
Five little monkeys, ducks, etc.
S.G. - Our school
uses family math.
MT3 - Gumbo how about
Sea Squares and Eating Fractions. Inch by Inch and Each Orange has 8 slices...Bunches
and Bunches of Bunnies
Yonder - We got Newbridge
Math Big Booksthis year. Have only used a couple as they came at the end
of the year.
Laurie/AR - Bunches
and Bunches of Bunnies.
cathy - The 1ooth
Day of School, Jim and the Beanstalk
Gumbo/K/La - love
eating fractions.......so many I forgot---brain on vacation.....LOL
K - Tina, we use
Everyday Math. First year was last year. There's so much - and we're a
1/2 day program.ear.
Sandy/K/MO - counting
jelly beans,
Djinn - Big Fat Hen
cathy - The M &
M Book
Jules - The Cheerio
Counting Book
Linda - How about
Math Start series?
Laurie/AR - Max's
Money, Alex. who used to Be Rich. . .
Djinn - Counting
Mice
cathy - The 12 Days
of Christmas, The Nine Days of Camping
Tina - My K, 2,3,4,5
teachers like it my 1st grade teachers are leary.
Djinn - or is that
Mouse Count? LOL
k - Does anyone have
ideas to use the Millenium as a math -- 100 years -- 100 bring a math standard
for 1st.
Mary K&1 - The
Right Number of Elephants
DEE - 101 day use
101 dalmations
S.G. - Five little
ducks, Five little monkeys
Peachy/K/NC - Five
Little Monkeys,Buttons, Buttons, Each Orange Has Eight Slices
Sandy/K/MO - 5 little
monkeys... can't remember them all
Djinn - 10 apples
MT3 - Greedy Triangle
cathy - We are going
to try to save 2000 pennies!
Jules - Even Steven,
Odd Todd
Denise - For older
kids, oh, I forgot the name . . . the one about doubling one grain of rice
each day.
cathy - Cookies Week,
The Very Hungry Caterpillar, Rooster's Off to See the World
k - good idea cathy!
K - Good concepts
taught in Everyday Math, but we found our kids a bit weaker in computation
by the end of the year compared to last year with Math Their Way.
MT3 - One Grain of
Rice, Denise?
Djinn - A Chair for
Momma - my aplogies if not correct
Jules - Denise..Anno's
Magic Seed?
cathy - Picking Peas
For a Penny, Monster Money(sch.)
Peachy/K/NC - Tana
Hoban's books
Casper - Awsome list
of books we have compliled!!!
cathy - Jack and
the Beanstalk(meas.)
Djinn - One Potato,
Two potato
Linda - Anno's Magic
Counting Jar
Tina - Two of my
teachers have taught Math Their Way and thought the Everyday Math was more
organized.
nat/k/ma - Isn't
the book, A Chair For Mother
cathy - Three Billy
Goats, Three Bears(size seriation)
Djinn - You got it
nat!
Linda - We need organized
math at our school. 1/2 of the students leave.
Peachy/K/NC - Fish
Eyes, Ten Black Dots
Kathleen - Tina,
I think Everyday Math is more scripted or planned out. Math Their Way is
more natural. Both probably good, what do you think?
DEE - Where are you
from Linda that 1/2 of your students leave
Laurie/AR - Does
anyone else use Scott Foresman/ Addison Wesley Math. This is our first
and only year to use it.
nat/k/ma - My vote
is for Math Their Way. Our school voted for Addison Wesley
cathy - Laurie-How
did you adpot a book for 1 year?
Casper - Laurie:
We are using that one for the first time this year too!
K - Everyday Math
organizes the activities by month. It's easy to follow. The assessments
are good too.
nat/k/ma - Laurie/
I just read your question. Yes, we have it.
Linda - From Central
CA. Small farming community. 3rd highest poverty rate in state.
Jules - Lucky Laurie.
Our adoptions are for 6 years.
Gumbo/K/La - nat-----think
that's what we have, addison wesley....(dunno cuz I don't use it....)
Yonder - Childwood
has a great set of 3 bears for kids to order by size.
Casper - I am very
comfortable with MTW
cathy - Does anyone
have childwoods web site?
Laurie/AR - Crazy
district. This one is supposed to be a good lead into Investigations series.
Isn't that cooky?
Tina - I would agree.
They teach thinking skills which our kids lack. Our state scores for 4th
grade just came back and ours were terrible so we need to make a change.
We were using Heath.
Linda - SF was listed
as "Commercialized"--using things like McDonald's.
nat/k/ma - Investigations
is great, Laurie without the addison Wesley Math Workbooks
Laurie/AR - We get
to keep all the cool stuff that comes with the series. Just won't be buying
the consumbles.
Gumbo/K/La - I bought
the problem of the day kit from Lakeshore.....really nice......kids loved
it.....
Sandy/K/MO - scholastics
have the 3 bear manip. by size too
cathy - How much
time are ya'll supposed to spend on math?
Mary K&1 - The
one thing that I do like about Every Day Math is that it's spiral - you
keep going back to something that you strated earlier - that way it gives
the child time for the concepts to really sink in and keeps refreshing
their understandings
Celeste/K/NC - we
have adopted Investigations, and are using SF/AW as additional material
Laurie/AR - I am
excited about using Investigations.
nat/k/ma - The Manipulatives
that come with Investigations are great. I use them.
Linda - How long
does it take you to get used to a new math series? CA is supposed to be
changing adoption cycle from 7 to 4 years.
Jules - Cathy, my
county "recommends" 60-90 minutes PER DAY. We all just rolled our eyes....
DEE - the time spent
is differnent some lessons in Saxton are longer than others
Laurie/AR - Celeste,
that's exactly what we're doing.
Celeste/K/NC - we
are going to end up with about five days of staff development for the new
math series
Mya - gumbo what
grade is that kit for?
Gumbo/K/La - mya,
no grade on it---early childhood/lower elementary levels can easily use
it.....
Linda - Actually,
I teach math any way that is necessary.
Sandy/K/MO - I pretty
much integrate everything... so can't really pin point how much time...
more than 40 min. though
meeha/ece/tx - I
think most of the math I teach (now and when I taught Kinder) is taught
via the calendar -- counting by 1's, 2's, 5's, 10's -- patterning -- graphing
-- more, less -- etc.
Djinn - Linda- we
have used Anytime for 3 years and it still sits on the shelf - bad choice!
Laurie/AR - I believe
ours is 90 minutes per week. It wasn't as much as I expected it to be.
I do much more. I love math
Casper - Great coutning
activity: Buy wooden spool holders and cut them in half...use small rings
to cout in each spool holder.
nat/k/ma - Jules,
you have got to be kidding. How do you fit everything in? Math is something
that goes on all day especially at calendar time.
Linda - Started out
teaching Title I pull-out math. Never used paper and pencil the whole year.
Course only had 4 students at a time.
Djinn - I use math
centers twice a week - math everyday in calendar - math for 15 -20 minutes
everyday for station activity
Tina - WE teach approx.
to 5 hrs. a week for math
Sandy/K/MO - curric.
says 30 min. day do more much more
Linda - 40 minutes
of math/daily. 10-15 whole group. Rest small group or individualized.
Jules - Laurie, 90
minutes is not a lot, but when they expect k to have 60 minutes of large
group "isolated" instruction and 30 "integrated" instruction...
Jules - Nat, totally
agree. But, our ITBS scores were "too low" so we have to make up for it!
Casper - Counting:
Buy those key chain holders that you can write in the box. Write numbers
and have the children add links to the metal ring to match the numbers...
Laurie/AR - I do
about 30 to 45 minutes a day.
Djinn - Good Night
all !!! You are wonderful!
Kathleen - Djinn,
thanks for another terrific session!