Kathleen - Hi, Welcome to the GATE chat!
Melanie - I am a GATE teacher in MO
Kathleen - kate and katie, do you teach in GATE programs?
kate - Hi everyone. Other moms here as well I see. I teach 3/4 split.
Katie - Thanks, this is my first time
Kathleen - Did you all read the transcript of the Renzulli chat from last year? It's in the Archives, take a look after this meeting by clicking on "archive" over in the left frame
kate - I used to do the gate but our funding has since been cut. It was my first time two days ago. It has been very informing
Kathleen - How did everyone hear about this chat?
Katie - I am from Michigan
Melanie - I'd love to see Jim Delisle, Carol Ann Tomlinson or some guru of differentiation here
Katie - no i dont
Melanie - I saw the post on the GATE chatboard... I'm addicted to the chatboard :)
Kathleen - Do you feel strongly that all schools should have a formal GATE program?
Carol - Hi It would be great to see Jim Delisle!!
Melanie - Have you ever heard him speak? He is so good.
Kathleen - Melanie, if you can send me an e-mail address for each, I'll see what I can do about getting guests for you
Carol - I'm a parent from Ont. I do a lot of volunteering with GATE program in my daughters old school
Melanie - Absolutely, Kathleen.
kate - What do you teachers recommend for a gr. 1 girl who is reading at a gr4 level.
Melanie - Kathleen, how do I get your e-mail?
Kathleen - Melanie, when you ask if we have heard him speak, do you mean Renzulli?
Carol - No, but I've read stuff of his, and a good friend of mine, the GATE teacher saw him last year.
Melanie - Kathleen, no Jim Delisle
Kathleen - my e-mail address is kathleen@teachers.net
Melanie - How about an older grade buddy?
Kathleen - No, I haven't heard Delisle.
Kathleen - I have to leave, I think other GATE people will drift in. Write to me if you have ideas for future chats, guests.
kate - I teach in her school .Could I put her in with my threes or is that too much of a shock?
Melanie - Thanks Kathleen
Carol - Thanks too! Kathleen
Kathleen - I just came back to say-if you write to me, please put GATE TOPIC in the subject line to grab my attention. Bye again!
Melanie - I guess you have to consider the child and see how she would feel... in a small group she'd probably more comfortable
Kathleen - Thank YOU! goodnight! Enjoy your chat :-)
kate - It is such a dilemma. Stay with the ones seems so beneath her ability. Yet she is social like a six year old. I think her teacher will try novel studies.
Melanie - Kate.. social devel/ feeling accepted is equally important
kate - I really agree. My other daughter was put ahead in her school work and missed the other kids too much. I wish she had the opportunities your program would offer.
Carol - How is she doing in other areas - will advanced reading/studies be sufficient?
kate - Yes I think so. She is in a 1/2 split so maybe her teacher will put her up in other areas.
Carol - Split classes are what saved my daughter until she entered the gifted program in grade 5 (when it started)
Carol - That and being a "social butterfly" (teachers comments)
kate - Are GATE programs everywhere in the States as a requirement ?
kate - When your daughter was in a split,what did they do with her in year 2
Carol - I don't know - some form of IEP is a requirement in Ontario
Carol - They just kept changing the split 1,2 then 2,3 and 3,4 and 4,5. She was very lucky
kate - How does your GATE work. Do you have them for a portion of each day?
Carol - She's starting high school in another week, and the only thing that the public school offered her was to skip grade 9 math and drama. We'll just wait and see
kate - That is frustrating as a parent and a teacher.
Carol - It was a little unique. We are in a school area that is quite geographically large. The teacher travels to each school about once every 2 weeks, meets with all the 5-8 kids in the program for about 1/2 day. He then assigns them work that they will do in the next two weeks instead of language arts.
kate - Who monitors them for the two weeks. How do they stay motivated
Carol - The assignments usually include reading a novel, summarizing it and answering a question on it; writing a story, an individual math program, as well as a few questions on the theme for the year ( often involving construction of objects)
Lynn - am trying to get a handle on gifted programming
Carol - That's a big problem Kate. It really takes a lot of parental involvement, because the classroom teachers support varies from terrific ( my daughter's grade 8 teacher) to non-existant grade 6, and hostile (grade 7)
Carol - There is also supposed to be a special ed resource teacher, but they are usually so busy at the other end of the spectrum
Lynn - this year I will have a very high to middle 8th grade science
Lynn - I want to do the best by them
kate - How come every once in awhile my screen goes blank
Lynn - in general it seems that there is difficulty with what gifted programs are all about
kate - Gifted programs also have a stigma which is hard to push for.
Lynn - pull-out seems to be norm, gifted daily classes like yours aren't as prevalent
Lynn - why the stigma
Carol - People don't believe that these kids really have needs
Carol - The best part is being with their peers
Lynn - believe they have needs
Lynn - it just so difficult to have the materials to meet the needs
Lynn - my niece is in a gifted program
Lynn - her mother says that she has difficulty with peers but does well with younger kids and adults
Carol - I missed describing a key part of the gifted program. The grade 5-6 kids have county wide congregated sessions every month or so, and the 7-8 have residential sessions every 6 weeks where they get together for 4-5 days(overnights)
Lynn - she appears to be well-rounded
Lynn - believe that its good for gifted to be together
Lynn - overnights would definitely a plus--do they enjoy them
Carol - Last year they studied geology - spent one residential studying canoe skills, a week in Northern Ontario canoeing and studying mining, another session at the university, another session canoing in Killarney Provincial Park with a university professor....
kate - My girls would love the program
Lynn - do either of you have suggestions as to what should comprise a gifted program
Carol - It is split. The kids that go- love them, but for some kids, being away from home for 3 nights is too much.
Carol - They also did a lot of art, and drama (Shakespeare). I got to spend a day teaching them radioactive dating
Lynn - can they opt to only attend 2 nights
Lynn - I like to teach in a multiple intelligence way would like the art and drama
Carol - They can, and some of the kids often go home for a night to attend hockey practice, swim practice, choir.... you know the type
Lynn - those who do it all
Carol - Joe is really big on teaching a whole child. A lot of written reflections, poetry, art...
Lynn - how do you teach the radioactive dating
kate - What about the talented part of G/T?
Lynn - who is Joe
Carol - We started with Bohr model of atom, and then talked about the nucleus ( neutrons, protons) and types of decay. I introduced the concept of half life by using 400 pennies. Each kid started and we assumed that if an "atom" came up heads, it had decayed. We then plotted the coin decay curve, and drew the analogy to atoms
Lynn - like that idea use to do it with toothpicks
Lynn - Do you homeschool..missed the first part of the discussion
Carol - Sorry - Joe is the gifted resource teacher for the separate school board. Really interesting guy. Physics undergrad degree, ecology masters degree, and an organic farmer who also paints, is a musician and studied mime when younger
Lynn - sound like he has a good background for what he's doing
Carol - Lynn, I volunteer with my daughters old school gifted program. I tend to be one of the few Moms who like to camp

 
 

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