Saturday, March 01, 2003
National Board for Professional Teaching Standards Certification
EC Generalist, NBPTS Certification
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AdrienneHC - hello everyone
Donna - Hi Adrienne-I am everyone so far
AdrienneHC - ok that is great
Donna - are you a newbie or banker?
Susan (NC) - Hi Adrienne & Donna!
Donna - Hi Susan!
Donna - had to take a break-I keep wanting to rewrite over and over again-need to get away and start on a new entry
Susan (NC) - I'm a banker, madly working on 2 entries (Community & Science) older generation rules.
Donna - Thise 2 are soo hard!
AdrienneHC - I am just about finished and think I need to stop working too
AdrienneHC - I thouhgt literacy was the hardest for me so I did that onelast
Susan (NC) - Boy don't I know it.........this is my last chance to make it!
tmw1 - Hello everyone!
AdrienneHC - Hey susan
Donna - when are ypou due?
AdrienneHC - March 15th
AdrienneHC - you
Donna - I hope my literacy is strong-can't seem to get bood "community" in my video
Susan (NC) - Mine is April 15 but my deadline is April 1st.
diane - hi all!!..can't wait to finish my science on magnets...if i don't make it with this entry this time i will just give up!!
Donna - due april 15- am getting nrevous
AdrienneHC - that is what I did too my deadline is March 1st today and the entires are finished I justhave to go back and take out questions and print
Donna - hi diane I hope to get a good video on magnets this week
AdrienneHC - I did magnets too
tmw1 - My box is due April 15th too. I am working on science and have Social Studies to go.
Susan (NC) - Diane- my science is magnets too-
diane - mine is due 4/15 but i want it done by spring break which is in 2 weeks
Donna - I am doing stations with magnets-hope to get some good inquiry there
diane - wow...i'll bet we have a lot to share
Judy(FL) - Hi all. I'm taking a break from working on my literacy entry. My deadline is April 15th but I also want to get done before spring break so I can spend all of spring break putting everything together in the box!
tmw1 - I did sink and float
Donna - yes, i would love to hear what you have done diane
AdrienneHC - yes we probably do
diane - my inquiry was pretty good...lots of misconceptions that i did not address purposely on the video
Judy(FL) - I haven't come up with my science/math idea. I'm having a hard time finding an inquiry lesson for 2nd grade.
AdrienneHC - my kids explored the room and then magnets and what they would attract...I put in a penny to throw them off
Donna - what types of activities did y'all use for magnets?-especially math connection.
Susan (NC) - I think I got a good inquiry on magnets- the 5 first graders I used are real "talkers" now I have to watch it & write out all the scripts-
AdrienneHC - one of my misconeptions occured because the magnets from the science materials were not very strong mangetically
diane - where are you at in fl judy...i am in kissimmee
Judy(FL) - I'm in Melbourne
Donna - diane.did you get your check from me?
AdrienneHC - my math connection was seing how many paperclips themagnets would attract, counting them and then doing another type of magnet and comparing the total. We used calculators to get the totals because thenumbers were quite large
diane - not too far from here...an hours drive judy
Judy(FL) - I think I'll send my family to Kissimee to give me uninterupted work time.
Kelly M - Hi everybody!
tmw1 - Hello Kelly!
diane - yes donna i did..it is still in my purse though...thanks
Donna - I'd like to send my family anywhere-just to get time alone!
Judy(FL) - smile from me!
AdrienneHC - does anyone know howmany photos we can use for instructional materials or how many photos on a page
diane - my math was also counting how many paper clips it would hold and a very simple graph...also the use of the Venn is math
AdrienneHC - how did you use the venn
Donna - I am doing a mural on our state for SS, sill it be OK if my state is named in the video?
Judy(FL) - OK. Does anyone have any inquiry ideas about how to incorporate math into a space lesson?
Donna - what grade judy? size comparison might fit in
Kelly M - Donna - yes, your state can be named like that....nothing you can do about it
Kelly M - Hi Lane - welcome!
Judy(FL) - Donna-I'm grade 2
Susan (NC) - having computer problems...........sorry!
diane - we used the venn at their tables to put obj. they tested in the different parts of the circles...a plastic pineapple amgnet was in the middle as it was only attracted at the site of the actual magnet
AdrienneHC - good idea
Judy(FL) - That's a good idea. We're taking a field trip to the planetarium on Tuesday. I wish I started the unit earlier. I was thinking about measuring shadows.
Donna - we have been emailing other cllasses in other states and comparing their weather to ours-looking for spring! we have shared info about our community-will make the mural as the nig finish along with signs of spring
Kelly M - Hello bengurion - how are you today?
Kelly M - Hello bengurion - how are you today?
bengurion - Hi people !
AdrienneHC - hello all
Judy(FL) - Hi back!
Lane - Hi, all. Question about the literacy entry. The second question asks about what assessments you used to answer your questions. Did you include the results of these assessments here, or when you were discussing the work samples/relevant features of developing abilities? Or does it all just go together?
AdrienneHC - anyone know about using pictures
tmw1 - For SS, I was thinking about doing my unit on symbols patriotism such as the flag and then let each set of partners make up their own version of a class flag. Does this sound o.k.? If I videoed the making and presenting of the class flags would that be enough art integration?
diane - any good assessment ideas for magnets...i had them color obj. on a sheet i desined that they knew would be attracted to a magnet...sound o.k. for kinder??
AdrienneHC - I included the results of the assessment later
Donna - I have also seen measuring the distance between planets using a scale- might be a bit difficult and requires a LOT of space
AdrienneHC - I assessed each individual activity they did and created a scoring rubric for each activity
Judy(FL) - Donna-I you using the emails about weather for science or ss?
Susan (NC) - I'm having problems with my community video - I hate to tell you how many times I've video but I'm not satisfied.........how do you get 1st graders to talk and remember the rules ( only 1 may talk at a time!).....
Donna - social studies as it tied in with groundhog's day
Kelly M - Adrienne - I THINK...but I'm not positive - that you can use up to 6 pictures on a page. That was true in old generation....so please check about now!
bengurion - very nice Kelly and you ?
tmw1 - I would like to know that too Susan. : )
Kelly M - Donna - how did you do 'inquiry' with space?
AdrienneHC - I tried to and emailed Nbpts but they haven't gotten back to me. will they take phonecalls
Donna - I made the mistake of fast sorwarding thru my tape-they looked like termites running aroung and squirming everywhere-a frightenening scene-also had 1 picking her nose!
Judy(FL) - Susan-I had another teacher videotape my small groups. She was great at hand symbols getting other groups to be quiet. There was background noise because I wanted them talking, but not too much!
Kelly M - Adrienne - I think you can still call....but often they tell you to write to the inquiry staff. I think they've had problems with differing opinions answering questions on the phone!
Susan (NC) - Adrienenne, I emailed NBPTS also and they called me at my school! What a shock.........
diane - for our discussion we sat on the floor in a circle and they used a ball...they raised their hand and the person with ball passed it to them...no BALL NO TALK...worked GREAT and it scored well
Donna - I'm not doing space-just making suggestions to someone's ??s
AdrienneHC - I will try again maybe the snow in TX is slowing them dow
Kelly M - Susan - I know some people use a ball...have the kids roll it from one to another. You can't talk if you don't have the ball....maybe something visual like that might help....
AdrienneHC - great idea with the ball
Judy(FL) - I usually use a talking turtle. Same idea.
AdrienneHC - I read on the ring that sommeon ewas putting what section of the write up and the title and then their number in their header. Are we allowed to do that?
Susan (NC) - OK - I'll try a ball next week; my commentary is done except for the video- arrghhhh!
diane - the ball was great and whenit was rolled off in the wrong direction the kid would pass it to the correct person so it showed respect and cooperation too
Kelly M - Susan - don't forget that you still can write about how they are NOT quite there yet with your social goal! They dont' have to be perfect!
Donna - guess I'll practice a ball too-but mine will NOT sit still-they are attentive-but do not look like they are
AdrienneHC - I agree with Kelly wouldn't you like to see kids like everybody elses that aren't perfect little soldiers following directions.
Donna - i think so adrienne
Susan (NC) - How about panning the whole room? This was a question in the years past but haven't heard if anyone is still doing it?
Kelly M - Adrienne - LOL...if mine were even part way perfect I'd wonder what was wrong! But they ARE getting better and better!
diane - on my new science video i have one boy continuously grabbing materials from others...didn' t quite pick it up until i saw the video...it will fit nicely under my refextion sectiosound alright
Lane - My kids didn't all look attentive in my video either, but you could tell from their comments that they were paying attention.
tmw1 - Does anyone have suggestions on the Social Studies idea I asked about?
AdrienneHC - still unsure about the header...can it be that descriptive
AdrienneHC - tmrw1 I missed it
Judy(FL) - I just went to an early childhood conference. What was your idea again tmw1?
Susan (NC) - don't know tmw1 - I'm under the older generation rules.
Kelly M - Susan - I'm not positive...check the directions.....different years have had different directions for that. I think the new generation says to pan the room . However, I dont' know that it really 'counts'....because that would be impossible to do if you taped a 45 minute session and had to pick the best 15 minutes....your 'pan' might have been at the beginning! So PLEASE check the directions for that!
Kelly M - Hi Ginger! Good to see you! tmw1 - please restate your question...I'm sorry, I didn't catch it and it's gone now!
ginger - hi everybody!
Judy(FL) - My room pan helped me talk about class expectations and community helpers.
AdrienneHC - chello
diane - hi ginger
ginger - hi, kelly, good to see you, too
tmw1 - I thinking about doing a unit that I do each year on symbols of patriotism like the flag. I thought about having each set of partners design their own class flag . Would this be o.k. with them working cooperatively together and is that enough art integration?
Donna - if i set the camera down to tape the group can I just picj it up and video the small groups-that would be enough of me in the video?
AdrienneHC - I think that is good art integration -- being able to figure how drawing will look best on a page, use of space, use of colors etc
diane - designing their own flag sounds like good art...using a variety of art materials??
Judy(FL) - I like the flag idea. YOu could show the flags from different states and how they depict the character of the state.
Kelly M - tmw - I would think so....check the art standards and see where that would fit. Welcome, Stacy!
tmw1 - yes, crayons, markers, different colored and types of paper.etc
Donna - sounds good tmwl-sense of community is their-what makes them unique-use of symbols
Lane - tmw1-I'm a newbie, but I did something very similar for my entry2
tmw1 - Exactly
Kelly M - Hi Shirley - how are you today?
Abby - That is what I did for my ss unit, only I added patriotic songs and sign language for the pledge of allegiance
shirley - Does anyone know if we are supposed to refer to the Artifacts by number (A#1) in the body of the entry or just include them at the end?
Susan (NC) - I have another community ?........when you are asked about how your rules & routines help you achieve the 2 goals.......do you restate the 2 rules? I'm getting paranoid trying to get it RIGHT this time?
ginger - tmwl, when you design flags, you can also talk about how a certain color represents an idea, as in our flag
AdrienneHC - one teacher had a classroom flag in which the children had each decorated a 3x3 square. Befor she gave them each a square we had written Welcome to OUr Classroom on the flag and then cut it into flags the students did not know what it was unit they all glued it to one big chart.
tmw1 - We would talk about the symbols of the american and state flag and what they stood for so the students would get the idea to make sure that what they designed on the flag represented a part of our class' character
Susan (NC) - that sounds like a great idea & project tmw1
Judy(FL) - got to go. Good luck everyone. Can't wait to get this elephant off of me!
shirley - Abby- What a great idea ..using sign language for the pledge of allegiance.
Lane - shirley-I referred to my instructional materials by number in my commentary
ginger - tmwl, i think that's good art. Art is not just a color thing, but has meaning, and if you include that, i think it makes your art stronger
Donna - shirley-double check directions-but I think we will reference them in our write=up- how they fit into our unit
Kelly M - Shirley - I would refer to them that way because I think it makes it very clear which one you are talking about. Susan - are your two goals two of your classroom rules? Or do you have others? I would be sure to state all of the classroom rules right where they ask for it!
Abby - There is an awsome website for signing...Handspeak.com
AdrienneHC - Oh that is what I wanted to know...should we be referring to the instructional materials in all of the intries just like it does in the lit entry or not. all of the netires are running together now.
Abby - I had to pay $5. for two months, but it was well worth it.
diane - hey ginger...how are you coming on your entries...can't remember if you have one or are youredoing the ac??
AdrienneHC - I thought handspeak was free
shirley - Donna, Kelly...thanks! That makes sense.
ginger - diane, i am just redoing the science ac. I sent you a private message. did you get it, or is it lost in the universe?
Chris - Hi everyone
Abby - Some things are free, some are not. Of course, what I needed was not!
Donna - I have a girl in my room with deaf parents and she is fluent in sigh language-wonder how I could incorporate that into my leson
diane - no ginger...i did not receive it
shirley - Abby-did you learn the pledge signing from Handspeak.com?
tmw1 - I want to make sure that the students understand that they aren't just drawing and making a pretty picture, that they are making that represents our class.
AdrienneHC - I have my spanish speaker give us some words in spanish when we are doing something new
nati - kelly....how do i read the message?
ginger - ok, was just asking how your son is. you can let me know later if you want to
Abby - No, just particular words. There are instructions for signing the pledge out there in cyberland. I can go look, if you'd like.
Lane - Donna-I have a boy in my room who is fluent in sign language too. He is teaching the rest of the class words as we do new activities or are ready to learn a new word to fit with our classroom routines.
diane - will do ginger
Kelly M - nati - just read at the top of this screen. The newest messages are at the top.
ginger - tmwl, sounds like a good one
nati - but what about the private messages?
Donna - good idea- will ask her to help us out with some of oour new words
AdrienneHC - The words for the pledge are also on the back of the chartlet for the pledge of allegians at most teacher stores
ginger - nati, don't worry about it. just hang in there with us
Susan (NC) - Kelly, I'll reread the directions again-
nati - thanks. this is just different from any other chat room i have ever been in
Donna - In the SS entry-does the? about equity etc. refer to the lesson, unit or my classroom routines in general?
shirley - I just tried to order Building the Primary Classroom from ..but it was not available at this time. Does anyone know where I might find a copy?
Kelly M - Susan - I know it seems like a million times to read those! But I think I learned something every time I read them again!
AdrienneHC - I think it refers to the equity that is part of your classroom routies that is demonstrated in the lesson on the video tape
tmw1 - Well, guess I had better go and start back writing. Time is quickly going by. Before I know it April 15th will be here. I am really getting nervous at this point. Have a great week.
Susan (NC) - Better go guys and get back to work, everyone have a good week and hope all these winter storms are behind us!
nati - is there anyway to see the messages without having to click on update?
AdrienneHC - bye
AdrienneHC - themessages will just come if you wait
ginger - donna, i would focus on the entry and lesson, but you could easily tie it to what you do in your regular classsroom
diane - i used the equity to include the entire unit and sited any specifics that might have appeared on the video
AdrienneHC - or you can hit enter
Donna - bye tmwl-I am due then too -good luck!
ginger - nati, scroll up so you are at the top of the screen. the new stuff comes up there
Diana - Hello, just dropping in for a few minutes.
AdrienneHC - gotta go guys good luck
Abby - March 15 is closer than that! Thanks, all.
ginger - hi, brenda and diana
Donna - I am really stumped with the equity-taking turns, sharing materials, having a variety of art materials what else?
nati - thanks again. I teach ESE, not art. i just wanted to try this out. thanks again and good luck with the process!!!!
diane - what diana...the infamous diana t or another diana
Kelly M - Shirley - did you try to order it from teachingstrategies.com? They should have it....it's one of their books...they should have it in stock...
Diana - Infamous???
ginger - nati, we are all going for national board certification. we don't teach art
Lane - In the literacy entry, I want to spend most of my discussion on the work samples, right? Or do I want to balance the samples and the assessments?
shirley - Thanks, Kelly...I'll try that!
Chris - Anyone know if I should include Arts goals in my writeup that were not present in the video...or is it best to only stick to one from the video?
diane - oh that sounds like it could be d.t from good old kissimme???
nati - ohhhhh, but the message board said this was a chat for those going for the art certification.
Chris - Donna-how about your interactions with the children on the video?
Kelly M - Shirley - I was just checking it out for you....be careful. There are two with close titles. If you click for more information you should get a blurb that talks about how it used to be called Constructing Curriculum. That's the one you want!
Diana - Lane, You want to show that you KNOW the needs of your students. Analyzing their work samples is only one way to do this.
nati - well, gotta go.
ginger - chris, i would include any arts goals i had for the area of the unit i am in, not necessarily only what they see in the video
Kelly M - nati - no, this is Early Childhood/Generalist....every Saturday at this time....
nati - good luck
ginger - sorry, nati, we are going for early childhood generalist in national boards
Chris - ginger, thats what i thought...i really have one from all arts areas (visual, musical, and theater)
ginger - wow, chris, sounds good!
shirley - Donna..what about using the mult. intelligences to meet the needs of all your kids?
Chris - thanks ginger...but i am running into a space proble with all of them in there
Diana - social studies is my area of LEAST expertise. Any questions about science or literacy?
shirley - Donna..what about using the mult. intelligences to meet the needs of all your kids?
Donna - good idea shirley-thanks!
diane - i can't get my bottom margin to be exactly one inch..it is off just a tad and no matter what i adjust the footer is a liitle more or a little less than one inch...sound i go with a little more so they don't throw the whole thing out
Diana - diane - they wouldn't "throw the whole thing out"
Diana - diane - if you go for slightly over one inch, are you crunched for space?
ginger - chris, my unit was huge....started with olympics, ended up being a video of us creating a class song. I didn't include the olympics art goals, but did include the class song they saw us discussing and the class flag we had done earlier
Donna - If I set the camera down to video the discussion part of my lesson, then pick it up to follow the groups working, will that show enough of me in the video?
shirley - Sorry, Donna,,,I got knocked off and it was sent twice
Kelly M - Donna - sounds fine...they just need to see that it's you!
ginger - i think so, donna, i wasn't in the video the whole time, but made sure i stuck my head in it once in a while
diane - i am sure i can make it...i am good at leaving out words that aren't needed
Donna - that's OK shirley-sometimes I need to hear(see) things twice-or so my husnand says
Diana - Donna - you must be seen on the video at some point - preferably near the beginning so the asssessors can verify your identy with you ID. There is no minimum or maximum amount of time you must be shown.
Kelly M - Hi Avis - welcome!
Chris - ginger, i teach k and have centers that incorporate all areas of the arts although my video is of most of the class working on a mural of different modes of transportation.
diane - when i cut mine down to 15 mins. i will either lose some inquiry moments or some math of themusing the venn diagram...having trouble deciding which end to cut from
ginger - chris, unless the centers are an integral part of the modes of transportation, i wouldn't include them
ginger - hi, aggieb!
Diana - diane - is the venn diagram your only math?
shirley - My best science video (take #9) has a Tornado Drill announced in the middle of it. It was just a watch (be on the lookout and we didn't have to do anything) so we continued experimenting. Don't you think that's all right?
aggieb(NC) - Hi,, It's been a long time since I was here!
Diana - shirley - the tornado warning is absolutely all right - real life in the classroom.
Kelly M - Hi there aggieb!
Chris - i really think they are...blocks with vehicles and a train set, dramatic play set up to be an airport, water table with boats and things...
ginger - absolutely, shirley. That's life....we would be freaking out in NY, though if that happened!!!
shirley - ginger..I'm in FL
diane - hi aggieb from diane in fl
ginger - wow, chris. i see it all goes together. maybe a k teacher would be better to give advice
Diana - diane - I've forgotten, are you using your kinders for your science video?
shirley - I'm so excited...Diana T and Aggie B in the same chat. You have both helped me out tremendously!
diane - diana...no we counted how many paper clips a magnet (several) could hold...made a simple graph with that
Diana - diane - sounds like you have math covered - I'd go for the video with the most inquiry - be sure your counting and graphing are covered in your math objectives
Diana - shirley - you make me blush!
shirley - ginger..is it still snowing up there? That's what we would love to see!
ginger - sounds like good advice to me, diana!
ginger - no, shirley, but it may tonight again. i would gladly send you some of my snow!
diane - yes diana i did mine with kinder
shirley - I'm in Auburndale...near Lakeland
Diana - ginger - please keep your snow!
Lane - Time to get back to writing--thanks for your help (here) and in all of the emails. You've helped a lot!
shirley - How do I respond to a private message?
diane - don't believe her...i don't think she blushes easily...
ginger - ok, diana, but i'm still trying to find someone who will trade my snow for their sunshine!
Diana - no sunshine here today - clouds and rain!
diane - had a couple of kids try to weigh how much their magnet could hold but used the wrong kind of scale...they used the balance scale...put this in my write up somewhere
aggieb(NC) - I hope all candidates are getting a lot of work done. maybe 44 days to go!
Donna - I could use a snow day for writing- it is hard to sit at the computer when it is 80 outside
Kelly M - Shirley - click on the arrow next to the box that right now says "Send to:Room". You'll see the names of everyone who has signed in to this chat. Highlight whoever you want to send a private message to and click...and that name should appear down in your box. Type your private message and send it...and you'll be back to "Send to:Room"
Diana - shirley - for private messages click on the arrow next to the send to: room button - it will give you the option of sending to individuals
Diana - diane - good - that shows inquiry - also gives you a misconception to address
diane - i am sitting here in my bra (not that anyone asked ) because i am so warm and refuse to turn on the air cond. yet
ginger - i am moving to CA this summer, so I have lots to take care of. I will close and hope to see you all again soon. diane, my address is gingerh@warwick.net. let me know, ok?
shirley - Thanks, Kelly and Diana
aggieb(NC) - Ginger are you leaving NY?
Donna - me either diane- pen sindows and lots of ceiling fans
Kelly M - Bye Ginger!
Donna - that was open windows
diane - unfortunately that inquiry is not on the video...and i have many misconceptions to address...one boy said things happened because of hyper magnetism??
Diana - no open windows at my house - too much oak pollen
diane - will be in touch ginger...are you going to be near your sister??
Diana - diane - just be sure that you DO address the misconceptions in your commentary - especially if they were not addressed on the video
Donna - can you address misconceptions that came up but are not on the video?
diane - that is why i am warm...no open windows either...just the ceiling fans
shirley - Just double-checking...scales, weights and rulers are considered technology, right. What about the science log? Is that pushing it?
Diana - Donna - yes, you can address any misconceptions, but the prompt specifically asks about misconceptions on the video
aggieb(NC) - Diana, I agree that it is important to address the misconceptions in your written commentary.. My misconceptions were in my KWl chart and I addressed them.
diane - i will diana in my relection write up...correct??
Kelly M - Hi Allison - welcome!
Donna - maybe address the misconceptions when you discuss what you will do next?
Allison - afternoon all...
Diana - scales, weights and rulers, yes for technology - the science log WOULD be pushing it.
aggieb(NC) - Did you plan to do one thing and did another because the students had misconceptions?
Allison - as soon as I got started taping, ice hits...UGH. AND we have school on Saturday, WHEN will I write!? =(
Diana - adressing misconceptions in the reflection will work. Just remember that while the reflection will naturally address student learning, it is mainly about what the teacher learned - what you will change next time, what went well, what came up that you didn't expect - how you will address those issues
aggieb(NC) - I worked today also.. science workshop!!
Donna - Allison- we write LATE at night when everyone is in bed and you finally get some peace and quiet
Allison - yah, that's what I will do, eventually...but I have to tape to have something to write about LOL
Donna - I can relate to that Allison!
Diana - Gotta go. Talk to ya'll on the list
aggieb(NC) - I did most of my writings early in the predawn or late at night!! I sort of had to steal time from myself.
shirley - Bye ,Diana
aggieb(NC) - Thanks Diana!!
Allison - as soon as the camera comes out the kids are quiet too
Donna - mine are NOT quiet with the camera- quite theopposite-too wiggly!!
Allison - 6 weeks to go & I am getting anxious about getting it all done
aggieb(NC) - Allison, have you just let the camera record for the sake of recording,, show them the video and they will see it as another fixture in the class
shirley - My kids turned into comedians (vaudeville) when the camera came out!
Allison - really? That's funny, my kids see the camera & try to be sooo good LOL
Donna - Me too- I keep rewriting enties 1 and 4- but MUST do 2 and 3!
Donna - I have taped many times-but my class is just naturally active-guess I will need to address that in my write-up
diane - one little boy was so cute...he accidentally looked at the person videotaping and said "oh don't look at the camera"...the way he said it was funny
Allison - yah, one of my girls said to another "you're having a bad hair day" LOL And then looked into the camera & said OOPS!
aggieb(NC) - I have to go.. Happy writing to all!
shirley - One of my children dumped an entire bucket of water during our videotaping and you can see them in the background trying to slide across the floor. They are such angels.
Chris - i had a child trip over the tripod
shirley - Bye, Aggie
diane - well girls...i need to say goodbye for now...talk to you soon
Donna - Don't you just love them! Taping has been a real eye opener- I recommend it for eberyone
Donna - bye diane!
shirley - Bye all...it's been fun!
Donna - guess I will go write some more too. See you next week!

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