naneb - Hi!!
judy3ca - I read your posts--you're doing great!
naneb - It has been a hard year, the teacher who shares my room wants me to take home my carpet and pillows so she can have more room. I said absolutely not!! She has 1 class in my room
judy3ca - That's ridiculous! Stand firm (on your carpet)!
naneb - I was so mad, she said, you don't even use it!! I have 4 reading classes and they all use that area ,even my 8th graders
naneb - i love reading your posts, they are an inspiration
judy3ca - (((Marcia))))
naneb - Marcia I am so glad you are here!! I have a question
Marcia/1st/GA - Hi Judy and Nan. I made it this week!
judy3ca - Nan, was that "inspiration" comment to me? If so, thanks a ton--I need it!
judy3ca - Hooray, Marcia, glad you're here!
naneb - a friend of mine has a 4 year old who copies his name backward, She is all worried, I told her it is developmental and she should not worry unless he keeps on doing it this way
naneb - Anyway, this is right isn't it? He may do this for awhile until he understands how writing goes from left to right etc?
Marcia/1st/GA - Nan, that is entirely developemntal. You tell that friend she can give her son gentle reminders, but not to worry.
naneb - That is what I said, I told her to start using her finger under the words when she reads to him and show him how to start the letters etc. Thanks I thought I was right
Marcia/1st/GA - Uh-oh, I don't know how long I can stay. My screen keeps reverting back to the original few exchanges and I lose part of the screen. I can't see any new posts.
naneb - he is barely 4 years old
judy3ca - Marcia, maybe your computer needs a technical tap, LOL.
naneb - Listen to this!! One of my lowest kids took an AR test on a book 2 levels above where he has been reading and scored 80% on the test, hoe could barely read anything when school started
Erin - Just got home from my lovely educational statistics class
wizzlewolf - Marcia, don't worry. It has been doing that in this room for a couple of weeks. Just log back on when it starts to get wacky
judy3ca - Hooray, Sharon's here!!! ((((Sharon))))
Sharon - hideeho!
naneb - ((((((((((((((((Sharon)))))))))))))))
naneb - My principal went to Ms State, I had fun this morning!!
brad - you people never let up
naneb - ((((((((((((((((Brad, Erin)))))))))))))))))
Erin - (((brad)))
judy3ca - Sharon, I'm glad you're here--I wanted to tell you how very impressed I am with your strategy work!!!! Good for you!!!
Sharon - nan, i enjoyed the post about discussing schema handicaps with your students
judy3ca - Hi brad
Sharon - judy... i'm having a ball with it!
Erin - (((nan)))
Marcia/1st/GA - Wizzlewolf, it only happens when I post! So I might just eavesdrop for as long as I can stand it.
brad - hey judy. I musta missed schema handicaps?
Sharon - and thanks to you for the ideas about how t-t helps comprehension tonight
naneb - It just kind of happened, this little bitty text was not intended for schema study but it sure evolved into a great discussion, They have been staring at me like I have two heads but, I think they are finally getting the idea
dave - Does anyone know of a teacher in Calgary named Katrina Duclos
Sharon - but marica... how's the wheelchair issue coming along?
Erin - I had a student make a great connection today with "Pierre" I wasn't expecting it but it was great nonetheless
wizzlewolf - Marcia, it is not just you. I noticed this last week in the mentor chat,
judy3ca - Sharon, isn't that just the essence of good teaching??? I actually thought of you this afternoon when a mom came in to tell me some nice things--her darling daughter is new to the school. I answered, "Oh, well, I like teaching." She answered, "It shows." My new goal is to try something each week that I'm excited about!
naneb - Brad, it was about snow!!
Sharon - not me, dave... sorry
brad - checking new color here
naneb - brb, need water
Sharon - good for you, judy!
Erin - Looks good brad
judy3ca - Erin--what was the Pierre connection?
brad - no one else has this one?
Erin - I'm sitting here with a terrible cold, drinking my fruit smoothie loaded with vitamin C, hoping it will help Sniffle, sniffle
judy3ca - (((Kim)))
naneb - back
brad - I'm trying to stick with the same color but if I don't get here early. . . . judy always seems to wind up with that beautiful blue
Sharon - judy... how's the adopted soldier thang going?
judy3ca - passing tissues to Erin
brad - ((((kim))))) she of the Saxon household
Kim/1/Ca - ((((Judy! Bradley! Naneb! Erin!.......and everyone else I missed!)))))))
wizzlewolf - Oh Erin, that is exactly what it was like last week for me! I feel for you! It DOES go away though
Erin - Judy we were reading a legend about Raven (native american) I was looking to see if anyone knew "Ant and the Grasshopper" because it is the same theme. Brett raises his hand and says Raven reminds him of Pierre because he says "I don't care...about getting food"
naneb - that is my color in the chatroom, but it is a favorite of everyone new
naneb - ((((((((((((((((Kim)))))))))))))))))
Erin - Thanks Judy
judy3ca - Sharon, oh, I forgot--we got a GREAT letter from our adopted soldier. SHE'S a 24 year old lieutenant on guard duty in Cuba. It's great!
Erin - (((KIm)))
Kim/1/Ca - Need a blankie, Erin?
naneb - Erin, we read ant and the Grasshopper when we did fables
Erin - Thanks wizzle
Marcia - Sharon, I went to the doctor on Wednesday and he said for me that I could get off crutches. Still hard to walk (due to inactivity of foot for 6 weeks), but am loving my freedom!
brad - That's cool Erin, I've always read that book if there's a Native American theme going on. Even when I was subbing
judy3ca - Erin--that is so cool!
Erin - I need my mommy
Kim/1/Ca - "Hey" to Sharon........
judy3ca - Kim...my daughter loves Cal Poly!!! She's been raving in emails since Saturday.
Kim/1/Ca - I just dropped $60 on healthy foods books............sigh
Sharon - judy... our newest joint project with our soldier is to email him and write him by snail mail... then chart response from him time (same way... email to email and snail mail to snail mail) to show impact of Internet on communication
Sharon - yay for you, marcia!
brad - there, there, erin, daddy's here. LOL
brad - sylvia's here early
Jan - Good evening, everyone...
brad - ((((jan))))
Erin - Wow everyone's here
Kim/1/Ca - Speaking of daddy.......whassup with your eMail Brad? Didn't you pay your bill again?
Erin - We need Sadie and Michelle
naneb - need altarose and Sadie
Erin - LOL Kim
Kim/1/Ca - (((Jan)))
judy3ca - Sharon, wow, that's impressive. Last week we wrote our first group letter, LOL, not nearly as ambitious. But I would like to send her stuff and she won't say what she needs.
brad - Why Kim?
Sharon - hi jan
judy3ca - ((((Jan)))))
Jan - Like you Erin, I have a cold. I came for sympathy.
brad - I just got your email about the ESL kid, (name?)
Erin - Well you have mine Jan
Kim/1/Ca - Got a message returned, is all....from the address book no less........wierd
Sylvia/CA - Hmmm.. wonder if anyone has this color....
Jan - Hi, judy, brad, Kim...
brad - What's with you californians coming in here and spreading the bug
Kim/1/Ca - Yeah, that was it.......Christopher! My little writer
judy3ca - No passing around those California colds, Erin and Jan!!!!
Sharon - we sent a case of girl scout cookies last week... one of my moms is a girl scout leader
Erin - Especially cuz I still have class again tomorrow. Then sit in the hockey rink for two days. That should really help it
Sylvia/CA - Hellloooooooooooo chatters!!!!!!!!!
Erin - AACHHOOO!! to brad
Kim/1/Ca - Sympathy for Jan and Erin............
naneb - We have another hurricane coming into the gulf, y'all keep an eye on it!! I live near the Alabama line
brad - My email will be changing soon though. My free MSN runs out in November, but we haven't informed them yet
Jan - Hi, Sylvia....
Sylvia/CA - brad!!!!!!!!!!!! You just love us Californees!!!!!!
wizzlewolf - Erin, BUNDLE UP!
Marcia - We're getting a pretty hard rain right now in Atlanta, Nan
brad - sylvia you all are the bane of my existence keeping me up "whoring" on Friday nights
Erin - Fingers crossed it won't hit you nan
Sharon - wish we could get some, marcia... aac went out and it's sooooooooo hot!
naneb - we had that rain this morning, I drove my husbands car to school, my little Alfa does not do too well in lots of rain
Jan - Hurricane! My sympathies...
Erin - If this is "whoring" we are all a pitiful bunch LOL
Sylvia/CA - Yikes, naneb!!!!!!!!! I am soooooo afraid of those hurricanes!!!!! Where do you hide from them????
wizzlewolf - Nan, it might pass by here first....I am on the west coast of Florida
Erin - Oh Sharon, mine is out too. It's terrible
Kim/1/Ca - <<<<<<<<<snort.........keeping YOU up hoooring around, Brad? Sheesh................I think it is the other way around
naneb - sit at home usually, Sylvia
brad - curious, how many of you all are in buildings with AC?
Sylvia/CA - Aww shucks, Brad!! *blushing* Bet you say that to all the late night California chatters!!! LOL
Marcia - Hey all, I have been thinking about the question about making t-s connections with something other than the character's feelings....
judy3ca - We have AC.
Erin - Jan I need you to come to my school and help me (crying on your shoulder)
naneb - wizzle, it might go into Mexico but I bet it turns North
Kim/1/Ca - AC here.......TOO good, as a matter of fact. I have to keep turning it off.
Sharon - ac in my school, brad
wizzlewolf - The Gulf is less than a mile from my house. I will be able to watch Isadore out my window!!
Erin - We have a great AC. Kids and I have to wear sweaters in class
judy3ca - Marcia, I thought those were t-t connections--is that where I went wrong?
naneb - must have AC, it is still scorching hot here
Jan - Erin, how is the "collaborating" going?
wizzlewolf - I just want it to stay away from me!
brad - lol erin
Sharon - alta rose corrected the t-t to t-s in another post, judy... it was a typo
brad - No AC here and it's been absolutely unbearable with the humidity this week.
Sylvia/CA - We have AC in my district... now, here at home, I use a fan....
Erin - Jan , terrible. I vented on the board this week about how a fellow third grade teacher verbally attacked me. It was horrible. I still haven't spoken to her
naneb - wizzle, my son lives in Florida now, Cocoa
Marcia - I am trying to decide if some of the t-s connections are connections to something happening in the plot or are connections to knowing or being familiar with a particular setting, rather than always characters' feelings.
Sharon - you wanna talk humidity, brad??? come to the southeast!
judy3ca - Sharon and Marcia, LOLOLOL, then my response was really off the mark--but she could INFER the same suggestions, LOL.
Sylvia/CA - wizzlewolf and naneb.... wanna come over here and wait for an earthquake????
brad - The state is offering to pay two thirds the cost to build new schools if the city votes to pay one third. so today we gave out voter registration cards for kids to take home to parents. I really played up the "Wouldn't it be nice to have new school with AC?" element
wizzlewolf - Well at least that is the other side of the state
Kim/1/Ca - Oh, missed that one, Erin! Want to update us.............? WE are here to commiserate.
naneb - my husband says south Mississippi is where mold grows on fungus!!
Erin - Teachers are confusing me relaying information to them versus me creating the information (standards) Obviously I didn't make them up. We all have to teach them. I happen to be in charge of the committe for the report card and assessments
Jan - Erin, collaboration brings out the worst in some people, but it is usually because they feel very threatened. It really is the "fear factor."
brad - Erin, I must've missed that one
Kim/1/Ca - Good one, Sylvia.......hurricanes indeed! We lose freeway overpasses here.
Marcia - Sharon, I am sure the humidity has been worse here in the last two weeks than any time this summer!
Sharon - marcia... i think you're on the right track with t-s
Erin - I created a rubric for writing that everyone liked, we spent 1/1/2 hours reading and calibrating. At the Tuesday meeting this teacher said it wasn't a bit helpful to her
Sylvia/CA - Sharon... humidity and I are not good friends at all! I never knew what that was until I went to NC, then to MO, and then to TN.... All during the WET HUMID summers! Ick!
brad - The humidity here was so bad this past week, if I snapped, drops of water fell from thin air
Erin - Jan, that is what others have told me. She tends to act this way when she doesn't have a clue (which tends to be often, unfortunately) But rather than educate herself she lashes out
Marcia - Sharon, what do you mean? I am not sure of what I am even saying! LOL
Jan - Erin, they have to blame someone...and it is pretty useless to lash out at the state! You are the target, but they really aren't frustrated with you. Just the system.
judy3ca - Jan and Erin, I think collaboration often brings out the worst in me!
Kim/1/Ca - Go on, Brad...........you sound like Mark Twain............
wizzlewolf - Sylvia, no thanks! However, at least an earthquake is quick.
Sylvia/CA - Erin, our district uses standards based report cards. At first it was a bit intimidating, but I love it, now! We all know what is expected of kids... teachers, parents and kids, too.
Erin - I took it personally because of the hours I spent last Spring and this summer on the project.
brad - It was so humid, we used our paddles to walk down the hall
Marcia - Sharon, do you think t-s can be made to setting and plot then? If so, then a couple of the connections I made in The Relatives Came could be to setting, I suppose.
judy3ca - Brad, ROFL
Erin - It's intimidating to me also. I have managed to stay just one step ahead but I am no expert by any means
naneb - I love that book, I have read it to every class at least once
Sharon - i think t-s involves more than emotion, marcia... and with your post I was reminded of that and made notes in my files to work on modeling t-s with other than just connecting emotionally with characters
Sylvia/CA - wizzlewolf, yeah.. earthquake.. a quick jolt and you're under a pile of junk in an instant! Hmmm.. maybe not such a good idea! lol
Kim/1/Ca - Oooh Marcia, good book.......how about connecting When I was Young in the Mountains and Wilfrid Gordon McDonald Partridge................?
Jan - Erin, I think there are teachers who haven't kept up for years. They suddenly realize how far behind they are and they are scared stiff. Sometimes offers to assist, or some such thing really help. Should be done privately, so she doesn't feel she is being singled out. Sometimes, these people can be won over! Not easy, though!
Marcia - Sharon, any good ideas about books, poems to show that t-s could be made with other elements other than characters?
brad - Erin, that reminds me, (not to discount your pain) but that curriculum guide we spent most of the summer creating that matched standards to activities and text pages??? It was held up in a math meeting last night and said, you'rll be getting in October, but it's worthless. I sat right there and said to her, you promised us we had two more weeks. I'm giving you what I have; we're not proud of it cause we haven't had a chance to clean it up.
Sharon - marcia... that's where I get "gray"... i see visualization as being an extension of t-s... the authors words and your own schema connect together to form the sensory images... make sense?
Kim/1/Ca - Sharon........1st Grade, right?
Erin - Jan , I will go to her next week. I needed time to recover and not feel the need to lash back.
Sylvia/CA - Erin, it's hard not to take those remarks personally when you've invested so much time and energy into the project, but I agree that the comments are more people's way of venting their discomfort with change....
Marcia - Kim, thank you. We will be doing t-t next week with a story in our basal. There is a teacher who thinks along the same lines as me and we have started planning together a little bit. She had some good ideas for t-t
Sharon - yes, kim... first grade
Erin - Ouch Brad,
naneb - couldn't you read a book with a similar setting as where you live? Students could connect to the setting, especially if the setting is very important to the story
judy3ca - Marcia, what's a place you feel connect to? I opened t-s by reading about the beach because that's where I call home.
Jan - Good, Erin. Let me know how it turns out.
Erin - No wonder teachers burn out.
wizzlewolf - Sylvia, well neither option is good for me, but hurricanes whirl stuff at you for days. That doesn't sound to comfortable.
Erin - Thanks you guys for your support
Sharon - please share those ideas, marcia... this is where i'm heading next week too
brad - Suddenly they just "had to have it" mid-July so it could be sent to printer's in time for school to start. So we rushed what we had to her. When do we get it? October.
Kim/1/Ca - Tell me what you do for writing THIS time of year........I just moved up from Kinder. I bought journals and they like them. Some success.......lots of "I love-------------" stuff.
naneb - I am just waiting for my student teacher to finish so I can get back at it
Marcia - Sharon, I understand perfectly. I have been thinking of how to relate something to setting, like your book Canoe Days. The sensory imagery is strong there, but maybe that's okay. I am not sure how to communicate it to the children, though. What exactly do I call it?
Erin - I'm trying to be more "professional" since I am in school for my admin credential. Normally I would have told her a thing or two, but I refrained. LOL
brad - how long do you have for admin credential erin?
Erin - I should be done in the summer, take my exams
Sharon - judy... ideas?
Kim/1/Ca - I hear you loud and clear, Erin. I really went off this week about the workload and unrealistic, wheel-spinning expectations.......... felt better.
Erin - Brad, that has happened to me countless times. Discouraging
Jan - Erin, I'm impressed! It's not easy, is it?
Sylvia/CA - judy, you remind me of the story 'Sarah, Plain and Tall' because she loved the water so much.... Now, me? I relate to city life! ... ugh! Not really, but it's all I know!
Marcia - Sharon, we are comparing the texts Olmo and the Blue Butterfly by Alma Flor Ada (I think) and Coco Can't Wait by Taro Gomi
Sharon - i don't think i called it anything new, marcia... just shared the connection with canoe days in the form i shared with the group
Sylvia/CA - Marcia, do you teach first grade? I teach 3rd
brad - My entire school complaining about paperwork
Erin - No, especially because I tend to be very quick and sharp with my tongue.
judy3ca - Sylvia, LOL, my mom called me a fish when I was little--I haven't thought of that for years--thanks!
Sylvia/CA - Erin, just think of all that 'garbage' as .. 'it goes with the credential'...
brad - erin, a girl after my own heart
Marcia - We will be doing a picture sequence of ways of transportation the characters used in each story. Then we will do a class Venn diagram. The kids will have to complete their own Venn and I think we are requiring one element for each portion of the Venn as a start for beginnng frist grade.
Sharon - marcia... what is the t-t connection... similiar plot?
Erin - Sylvia, then I can change it when I'm done to "It goes with the job"
Sylvia/CA - I've met Alma Flor Ada several times...
Jan - Cavey! Glad you could come...
Erin - Then I'll go to a school and you can all come teach and we'll live happily ever after
Sylvia/CA - cavey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Long time no see!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (at least not in here!)
Kim/1/Ca - She is WONDERFUL, Sylvia!
cavey - Sorry I stole your color Jan
Erin - Thanks brad, I knew we were separated at birth LOL
Kim/1/Ca - ((((((cavey)))))))))
judy3ca - Hi cavey!
Marcia - Sharon, this is nothing special. The other teacher was just sharing some other ideas about how she does retells. She plans her lessons much the same way I do )strategy study and lots of comprehension, rather than around a topic theme which is what the rest of our team does.
cavey - What are we talking about?
brad - Kim, you're awful loving tonight, all these hugs and no scathing remarks towards me. What gives?
Sharon - peggy parish (amelia bedelia) is coming to our system... anyone heard her speak?
Jan - I take it back, Cavey...I hate it when people take my color. LOL
Sharon - we'll keep bouncing ideas off each other, marcia as we do the t-t... ok?
cavey - Okay, okay I'll switch
Sylvia/CA - Erin, right!! I was headed for administration, too, but I just decided I got more satisfaction watching kids' faces light up when they 'got it'... rather than watch teachers groan and complain when things weren't going to their liking...
Erin - Jan , you hurt her feelings. LOL
Kim/1/Ca - tee hee hee..........I documented all the Stepford Curriculum stuff in the plan book this week..........and then did what the he** I wanted to do......what was BEST for my kids. I am a criminal element, I tells ya.......hee hee hee.............
Marcia - Sharon, that is what I am not sure about. The boy is following a butter fly-the story ends by saying something like, "Follow your dreams." Coco is going to her Grandmother's house. I thought it would be fun to collaborate with someone for a change and she and I got started talking about it so I am going to give it a whirl
Erin - I don't think I'm ready to go into it yet. But I love going to school and I would like to in the future
brad - I believe the term, Ms. Lightning, is Civil Disobedience
Erin - Cavey, that's MY COLOR!!! LOL
Marcia - Anyway, Sharon, I still want to follow Miller' s lead with t-t and maybe Judy's too with some more read alouds.
Kim/1/Ca - You got it, Baby! hee hee hee..........
cavey - Now I took Erin's
brad - or Positive Deviance
Jan - Ah, Cavey...gorgeous color! Now, don't you feel better?
judy3ca - listening, but this is MY color, LOL
brad - I'm a huge fan of both
Erin - No it's called Common Sense when you know what is best, Kim
naneb - Who's a deviant???
Jan - It's okay if you take Erin's...just not mine!
brad - somehow judy in that beautiful stage of Betty Blue
Erin - Hey now Jan, them's be fighting words
Sharon - i'm countin' on judy heavily too... i thought it was going to be so easy earlier... but when i sit down to actually select books for t-t, i'm getting confused
brad - Evelyn Blue
cavey - Okay this is my last wardrobe change of the evening
Kim/1/Ca - Grace's wonderful spelling program outdoes Open Court and then runs circles around them..........so does the Making Words stuffl....................today they wrote the words and then we cut them apart and sorted them. They BEGGED to write in their journals and look at "my" books.................
Erin - Much better cavey.
Jan - Deviant? Brad, perhaps?
brad - A first grade teacher in my building did a Making words the other day for the first time and she was ecstatic. She said, "They loved it"
Erin - Jan, tell us something we don't know
Kim/1/Ca - Brad is the deviant, you know. Me, I am more like..........Ghandi.
naneb - Ho!Ho! Man!!
Jan - Cavey, that is perfect. So, "you!"
cavey - Whew I feel much better in purple
judy3ca - Sharon, I think I need more time/space to respond to that one.....
naneb - my 6th graders like making words
Erin - We found a sheet for Making Words for homework. The kids loved it. Parents said they worked forever to find the mystery word
Marcia - Sharon, I think this is whre the strategies begin overlapping so much. As long asthe children are using them to understand the text, I guess that is what is important.
brad - Ghandi?? More like Ben Kingsley
Erin - (((Glenda))
naneb - ((((((((((((((Glenda))))))))))))))
Glenda 1st TN - Okay, did I get anyone's color?
Kim/1/Ca - purple is the color of royalty, cavey
Jan - Hi, Glenda...
Marcia - Judy, you said you don't select text for t-t. does that mean it happens naturally as you read more and more books?
Erin - Harold had a purple crayon, cavey
Kim/1/Ca - HEY! I am NOT bald like Ben Kingsley.........................! Sheesh.
Erin - Nope, you done good Glenda
brad - purple is also the color of the search for a personality. That's why it's so many adolescent girls' favorite color
cavey - Thank you Kim, it's also the color or wine
Marcia - Sylvia, I love Alma Flor Ada's books! Did you hear her speak?
Kim/1/Ca - It is also the color of insanity..............sigh
Erin - Now why would you know that, brad?
Sharon - brad... have you ever done www.colorquiz.com? it's very interesting
judy3ca - Sharon and Marcia, I will say this--I don't know about firsties, but I don't set up the connections after I model. But I do read aloud a TON so that my kids can make the connections naturally--and four weeks into school, they're really starting to connect.
brad - psychology major
Kim/1/Ca - I SAW her and Isabel Compoy present............wonderful, wonderful, wonderful............
naneb - must be why I never liked purple?!! I have plenty of personality!!
brad - I've done many color quizzes, sharon. Maybe. I"ll check it out
cavey - Brad, the red would have been my first choice but Erin got here first. As you all know I am definitely not searching for a personality
judy3ca - Marcia--GMTA--I answered your question before I read it, LOL.
Erin - What does red mean brad
Erin - (((Sadie)))
Sharon - wait judy... what about think-alouds? aren't they pre-selected by you?
Marcia - Judy, do you think that it's worthwhile to "set up' lessons for it, or allow them to come up as the year goes on.
brad - Vibrancy. Outgoing. Passionate
Sadie T - Hello!!
Kim/1/Ca - Yes, I agree, Judy..............(NO not a psych major here...........).............my kids naturally connected Chrysanthemum and My Name is Johari...........
Erin - Thanks brad
Jan - Hi, Sadie....
judy3ca - (((Sadie)))
cavey - See, Sadie picked purple, she's a nut like me
Sharon - hiya sadie
Kim/1/Ca - (((Sadie))))
Erin - It's a different shade, though
judy3ca - Marcia and Sharon--yes, the modeling, think alouds, are set up, but that doesn't last forever.
Jan - Purple is for old people!
Kim/1/Ca - The mighty oak was once a nut like you............
Sharon - my color says... she's too dang lazy to arse with choosing another color!
Sadie T - Ummm... what is this about purple being the color of insanity... be right back...
Marcia - But Kim, did you read the books in the same week ( or within a close period of time) with the intent that the connections might be made?
Sadie T - Old people?!
brad - Reds are movers and shakers. They have a zest for life. You are also impulsive and restless.
Erin - Jan is sure in a spunky mood tonite!!!!!!!!!
Sharon - right, judy... but that's where i am now
judy3ca - Thanks Kim (and I will not comment on psych majors other than to say that I'm NOT one).
Kim/1/Ca - Um........(shuffle, shuffle).............Yeah, Marcia...............
brad - Jan, when I worked at the library, people checked that out all the time
cavey - I told you I was trying to pick red Brad
Erin - brad, that is very scary. That describes me
Marcia - Sharon, then I'm lazy too. Hey, i am just glad to be chatting. I kept gettting kicked off. Still have a real funky screen here.
Jan - Yes I am...it's because I was taken to task on the main board! Juvie was defending me when I left to come here and harrass you.
Erin - What happened Jan
judy3ca - Sharon, well, I imagine it's easier to set my older kids free, too. Does that make sense?
cavey - Oh my gosh Jan, say it ain't so
Kim/1/Ca - Yeah Jan..........spill it.
brad - I've always liked purple. It was my wife who told me she read that about adolescent girls. Personally, I thought (heard) purple is royalty. Also associated with secretiveness, wit, and moodiness.
Jan - I told a student teacher to not say she would only teach primary!
Sharon - yes, it does, judy... i'm just happy that i'm seeing my firsties approach literature expecting something to happen... not just call words
Marcia - Judy, so maybe we do need to have the think alouds and set up the connections with the first graders. I know mine did make lots of t-t connections as the year went on last year.
Erin - And what was wrong with that? That makes sense to me
brad - Nan, if you dislike purple, it means you need sincerity and honesty in your life. You hate artifice.
Erin - That main board gets crazy.
naneb - that is me!!
Kim/1/Ca - Jan you are right.......NEVER say never. I thought I was "upper grade" but can't imagine it now........I LOVE K and 1...........(so far)
Jan - I rarely post on the main board. Now, I remember why.
Erin - Actually, brad chartreuse is my favorite color. What does that mean?
naneb - I said I would never teach Junior High and what am I doing?
diane - ahhh...nan has same color...brb
Erin - LOL
brad - michelle was telling me about the "crazy" main board the other day. I've never been there. (It sounds frightening Auntie Em)
cavey - I started upper only, then loved early, now upper again
Erin - Hi diane
Erin - brad, don't go to the main board after dark. You may not come back alive
judy3ca - I hate artifice.
brad - Chartreuse is that greenish color right?
Sylvia/CA again - Ok.. I'm gonna give it a go, again... see if I don't get frozen out.....
Sharon - jan... i can only take small doses of that main board... it seems so... erm... trivial much of the time
naneb - I have never used this bright pink color before but, Why not?!!
Kim/1/Ca - That main board gets a bunch of nasty, hot-headed, opinionated, mean-spirited individuals who should NEVER have received a teaching credential. Scary people. I had to take a break from the main board.
cavey - Don't go brad, they're crazy over there
Sylvia/CA again - Hi everyone... again!
Erin - It's hard to tell who is really a teacher on the main board
Sharon - hi diane!
Jan - Sharon, "Trivial" is a compliment for the main board!
Marcia - What is the main board
judy3ca - Jan, did you see what I did on the main board recently. I wanted to respond but knew I'd get taken to task, so I left my email for her. 5 other people emailed for my opinion, LOL.
Sylvia/CA again - Hmmm.....
Glenda 1st TN - I seldom go there any more. I miss some of the posters, but I can't take the back biting.
Erin - See Jan, come here where it's all comfy, cozy and there is lots of love (((((((Jan)))))))))
diane - hi everybody!
Sadie T - I don't go to the main board at all anymore...
Jan - Diane! Glad you could come...
Marcia - Oh, never mind. I just wont' go to the mainboard at all.
judy3ca - ((((diane))))
cavey - Hi diane!!! nice color
brad - what was their side of things jan?
Erin - I only check the main board for the BB3 updates
diane - oh...is someone having trouble on the main board??? i NEVER post there
Sadie T - I get too tempted to say something and then regret whatever I say over there!
Sadie T - Hi Diane!!
Kim/1/Ca - Save yourself, Marcia............ Hi Diane..........
Sharon - marcia... i was talking about the primary chatboard
Jan - The main board leaves a lot to be desired. I guess I will go over there and check out how the battle is going.
brad - erin, can't you get that at the BB# site
Erin - Jan had trouble.
Erin - No these people have the live feed and know what happens ahead of time
Marcia - Oh, I think i have visited the primary chatboard...
cavey - Sadie- i can't believe you'd say something you'
brad - waht about the primary board?
Sadie T - What is BB3?
diane - sorry to hear that jan...i can't imagine why the people there can be so nasty
Kim/1/Ca - The specialty boards are okay, Brad..............
Sylvia/CA - let's see how long I can last without seeing this color again....
judy3ca - Sadie, it's Big Brother 3 and I regret to tell you I'm hooked.
Sadie T - Actually Cavey, I don't necessarily regret what I say, I just regret getting involved in the conversations in the first place!
brad - sad, erin, truly sad. There is where you and I must part ways (and the reason we were separated I imagine)
Sharon - nothing brad... that's just a board that i find trivial much of the time
Marcia - Sharon, have we found any answers to our t-t questions?
cavey - Brad, primary is okay. Lots of cutsey stuff
Kim/1/Ca - Sheesh, Sylvia...........quit changing your clothes. You are making me dizzy....in and out, in and out..........like my cat.
Sylvia/CA - Oh...... RATS! (she said in polite company)
Erin - Oh brad, in the midst of my intellectual life BB3 and Survivor are my shortcomings
Sharon - i'm going to get on the t-t meditation tomorrow after i complete a poetry project for grad course
Erin - Yeah for Judy
diane - lol, cavey...i have seen diorama-esque projects on the primary
Glenda 1st TN - Okay, I've bragged to all my friends at school. Now, I'm going to bore you.
brad - I receive primary in digest form. It always seems to repeat itself after awhile. I mean, we repeat ourselves too (heaven knows about synthesis) but there's always a new level or new branch within the discussion
Sadie T - Sylvia, you can share my color...
Kim/1/Ca - Do tell, Glenda..........
diane - erin...i'm afraid i'm a survivor junkie. i can only come out of the closet because you just did
Glenda 1st TN - My student teacher's mother made every student in my class little white lab coats. They are precious.
Sadie T - Yes, Glenda, please do bore us
Erin - A fellow teacher and I may apply for The Amazing Race. I donwloaded the application.
Erin - A fellow teacher and I may apply for The Amazing Race. I donwloaded the application.
Erin - Sorry for double post
brad - that's okay erin, my entire household made fun of me for watching Idol. (I didn't say one word that they watched that Popstars crap)
Marcia - I used Hazel's Amazing Mother for t-s and it was absolutely perfect for the kids to make connections. They had to write awritten response and they were so cute.
Erin - Yeah diane, I know Judy is too
Kim/1/Ca - Speaking of RATS, my son and his dorm mates got a pet rat. They named him Chester. I asked if this rat was a BAD RAT who sits on the MAT and tortures the CAT.
Glenda 1st TN - Not only do they button with sleeves, but they say, "Mrs. High's scientist". They are priceless.
Sharon - awww, glenda... how sweet
Erin - LOl Kim
Sylvia/California - I have yet to see even the reruns of Am. Idol.....
cavey - Sylvia, for pete's sake are you chocolate or butterscotch?
brad - ERin, that would be so great. Of all those shows, Race is one of my faves (I also liked Mole but lost interest in the last one because I knew the Mole by the second episode)
judy3ca - Diane--I LOVE Survivor too. For many many years I haven't watched TV (except for Jeopardy) and now I'm hooked on reality TV (and Boston Public).
Sadie T - Glenda, that's really sweet
Kim/1/Ca - I made fun of you too, Brad, for watching that cr*p.
Erin - Ok brad, you are forgiven.
Sylvia/California - Ooohhhhhhhhhhh Kim!! YUCK!!!!!!! ICK!!!!!! I have a mouse/rat phobia!! they make me crazy!!!
diane - cool, glenda
Marcia - Sharon, be sure to share any t-t windfalls you may have with me?
Sadie T - Would you like to share your student teacher's mother with the rest of us? LOL
Erin - Then you can all say, "Oh so that's what Erin looks like"
brad - Kim, why not ask Pat the Cat?
Sylvia/California - cavey.... I'm ... I'm... um... ....Colorful!! Yeah!! That's it!
judy3ca - Oh yes, I loved American Idol, too. Here's my theory....we're working so hard intellectually, that we need the release in stupid TV.
Glenda 1st TN - Sorry, I've got her until the 11th of Oct. I'm hoping for more "goodies."
diane - lol, judy, who knew? we can't be erudite all the time
Sharon - as always, marcia... the yahoo group is where i sort my own thoughts! thank goodness you set it all up for us!
Erin - I also love JAG because the guy is so hot on that show!!!
brad - Judy, I watched Boston Public for two episodes and decided it was so phony and outlandish that I gave up. I detest it.
Marcia - Judy, I am an avid fan of all of the survivors. I missed the first one, though. Even made fun of people who watched it until I started watching the second one.
Sylvia/California - I basically stopped watching television.. so I don't know much about any tv shows....
Erin - I've gotten the whole staff hooked on Survivor.
Sadie T - Brad, I also detest Boston Public.
Sylvia/California - watched ONE episode of survivor.. when it was new...
Kim/1/Ca - Yeah Judy, but that it just TOOOO stupid.
diane - when our new first grade teacher found out she got the job, she commented at how thrilled she was to be heading to an intellectual environment...then she blasted survivor...only to find out that our principal and i are rabid fans
judy3ca - Brad, yes, but it's phony and outlandish FUN.
brad - I usually don't care for it (although I watch) until they merge the tribes. Too many people to keep track of I guess.
Sadie T - Boston Public started at the same time I started teaching... on the mall they had a huge ad for it that say "You thought being a student was hard, try being a teacher"... I saw that EVERYWHERE in the weeks before I started teaching. LOL
Marcia - Sharon, thanks to you for spending so much time sharing your lessons and explaining them so thoroughly. They really help me either figure something out or validate somethign I am doing.
Kim/1/Ca - Not YOU TOO, diane! Arrrrggggg......................
Sylvia/California - Well, not to change the subject, but whoever suggested Ralph Fletcher's Craft Lessons to me .... THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH!!!! I just got it from Amazon!... (with several other books... sheesh! too hard to resist!)
brad - LOL Marcia and Sharon are in here trying to keep it real while we talk about Survivor
Erin - Yeah for Survivor fans
diane - et tu brutus?
cavey - Okay, I occasionally catch the weather channel. Does that count for anything?
Erin - Let's make sure we keep Kim posted about it each week
Sadie T - Judy, you think it's fun, but you don't teach high school!
Marcia - Sylvia, I saw a copy of craft lessons at school and I agree. It is a very good resource.
Sharon - hey brad... the archives have to show SOMEONE was on task!
judy3ca - Marcia and Sharon, I'm going to school tomorrow. Do you want me to look for some t-t books?
Erin - I have found Craft Lessons to be very helpful
Kim/1/Ca - EWWW, Erin! (turning up nose and going yuck yuck yuck here)
Sylvia/California - I also just got Reading with Meaning.... So thanks for that suggestion, too.....
brad - KIm, it was John
Sharon - please do, judy!
diane - hey, judy, i am doing that same thing tomorrow
Marcia - Excuse us, but Sharon and I have been hard at work all this time!
Sadie T - Yup, Cavey, it counts. I occassionally watch the weather... out the window.
Erin - LOL Brad
Jan - I LOVE the weather channel!
judy3ca - Sadie, LOL, you're right. I just love the principal.
Sylvia/California - Sharon.. yeah! that's why I'm bringing up books!! *wink, wink*.. That and the fact that I don't know any of those tv shows you all were talking about! lol
brad - Trading Places has been a weakness for me since we got the house
Erin - Sorry Kim, but it is true...you have friends in low places...
naneb - there is a new coupon for bookcloseouts.com, it is book , sale
brad - The Weather Channel is MTV for older people
Marcia - Marcia gleefully clapping her hands, "oh, yes, Judy, please look for some titles for us!"
Sharon - the library at our new school is pitiful... but i had a mom cut me a check for $200 yesterday and told me to buy whatever I wanted for my class... so book store here i come
Kim/1/Ca - LOL, Jan............! KCET has been running some good teacher stuff, Jan.......catch any of it?
Erin - I like to watch Junkyard Wars sometimes
Kim/1/Ca - John who, Brad? Huh?
diane - so...i have to vent frustration...my MOT progress is slooooowwwww going. these kids can't concentrate for more than 5 minutes
Sadie T - On Boston Public, I'm not sure which is worse - the parts that are totally outlandish, or the parts that are sadly close to the truth!
Marcia - Trading spaces is a great show! Those are the two I watch-TS and Survivor.
Kim/1/Ca - Yeah, Sharon! Yeah, Mom!
Sadie T - Sharon, where do you find parents that give you $200?!
naneb - I like Changing Rooms on BBCAmerica
brad - There is something curiously fascinating that draws me to it (Weather Channel) Subliminal messages.
Sylvia/California - speaking of bookcloseouts, I didn't see many childrens lit books there.. is there a special section I need to look up?
Marcia - Sharon, you had a parent give you $200 for books????
Jan - No, Kim, what was it? I was too busy with the weather channel.
Kim/1/Ca - HGTV ROCKS!
Sharon - i'm not used to that kind of parent, but i could get used to it really quick!
Sadie T - LOL @ subliminal messages on the Weather Channel
Erin - brb
judy3ca - Sharon-wow, $200! My grade level colleagues and I decided all of our birthday presents to each other will now be gift certificates to the wonderful children's bookstore.
Glenda 1st TN - Sharon, why doesn't your library at school have books?
brad - Why must I always rest on it when flipping (weather channel)
Sylvia/California - Sharon, but these days, $200 dollars doesn't buy much!! I know! I've tried it over and over again! I'm only in my second year of 3rd grade so I'm constantly buying new books for my classroom library
Sharon - yes, marcia... the father is a doctor and is impressed with our room so far... they pulled him out of private school and put him in my room on recommendation from a friend
Kim/1/Ca - It seems like a series of interviews, documentary style, with teachers in the trenches.............good stuff. Scarily familiar............local, I think.......L.A. Unified.
Marcia - Sylvia, I hate to bring it up, but bookcloseouts just had some great Rylant titles that i got ordered. I can't wait for this order to come. This one is being delivered to school though (shhhhh, hubby doesn't need to know).
judy3ca - brad--the weather channel????? And I thought my husband was weird for watching the history channel.
Jan - Love HGTV! My friend is hosting something there on 9/28, I hear the commercials for it.
Sharon - it's a new school, glenda
Sylvia/California - oh geez brad, I if you keep talking about tv I may have to leave.. and you'll have to go to bed early, for once! LOL!
brad - That sounds interesting, Kim. We have Mathline here on PBS, but it comes on while I'm at school (huh?)
Kim/1/Ca - Which show, Jan?
Jan - Darn, I missed it. I will have to check it out.
cavey - OOh Marcia, can't resist cheap Rylant!
Sharon - which rylant, marcia?
Sylvia/California - Awww, Marcia!!!!!!!!!!! Say it ain't so!!!!
Marcia - Lucky you, Sharon. Is it going to be for independent reading type books for SSR or great read alouds for MOT??
brad - did someone just call cynthia rylant cheap???
brad - did someone just call cynthia rylant cheap???
Jan - Just ordered Rylant's new book about Christmas.
Sharon - i love her book: Let's Go Home... used it today
Kim/1/Ca - CHEAP RYLANT? How DARE they discount her!
judy3ca - I love HGTV, too! Jan, what show is your friend hosting?
Erin - Marcia, I just had my last order delivered to school for the same reason
brad - CHEAP LIKE ME KIM!!! rofl
Erin - It's so much easier to shop during school LOL
Sharon - independent reading books, marcia... i need more to bridge the gap between early emergent and fluent
Jan - Something about "across America" Not sure what it is.
Marcia - Sylvia, when you visit bookcloseouts are you going to the children's section? I usually just start typing in author's names that I like. I checkmy shopping cart on Amazon to see what I still want and shop there first.
Erin - brad first the "whoring" now the cheap comment...when will it end
diane - i don't have cable...i'm limited to the big networks and pbs...watch a lot of documentaries
Kim/1/Ca - Homes Across America?
Sylvia/California - Can I still go there and order those books, Marcia? Part of my problem is that I only work with Spanish speakers... English learners is the official term.. and it's so hard to get them to understand the subtleties of so many stories......
judy3ca - You guys, talk about coincidence--we're 'doing' Rylant in reading AND writing next week. I've been planning this for 2 weeks and I'm still not done, LOL.
Sharon - tulip sees america?
Sylvia/California - LOL@Kim
brad - always judy with the blue and kim with the orange (although there was that one time glenda had the orange for awhile)
diane - sharon, me too...this is the lowest class i have had academically. can you think of good titles to bridge that gap?
Kim/1/Ca - Yeah, Glenda grabs orangered if I am not here first................
Sharon - blue and orange? God's colors... WAR EAGLE!
Sylvia/California - what color am I, brad??
Marcia - Ihaven't read Let's Go Home. Haven't heard about the new one either..
brad - Kim suggests Pat the Cat (who sat on a Mat)
Kim/1/Ca - My kids are learning to REVERE Rylant. We will be making small altars next week.
Sylvia/California - LOL@Sharon!
Glenda 1st TN - On a serious note, I have several 1st graders, that are "reading from memory" stories that we have read in class. They are tracking and touching each word as they read. This is good progress - - Isn't it????
judy3ca - ROFL Kim
cavey - Judy , I did the Relatives ala Wondrous Words, kids really got it
Sharon - i'm searching for some good ones, diane... i'll get back with you when i decide which i'll buy
diane - ohhh...kim, maybe you could make them out of judy's coffee cans
brad - oh geez, sharon. More drunk reveling?? LOL
Jan - No, she is hosting a show where a group of women go across the country doing something. I only see part of the commerical. It shows a US map and the route they took. She is the host. She had sometimes appeared as a guest. Very creative.
Kim/1/Ca - actually, The Fat Cat Sat on the Mat is one of my personal favorites. That cat has PERSONALITY.
Sylvia/California - Kim, I wonder why??? lol!!!!! Altars to Rylant? hee hee! I need to see the pics!
Sharon - let's go home is a beautiful story to me... have you read it yet, judy?
diane - thanks, sharon...it's been difficult
Sharon - ack!!!!!!!!! SHHHHHH, brad!
brad - small altars are not instructionally sound, Kim. They resemble dioramas too much
Sylvia/California - I don't suppose any of you work in Spanish, do you? I hate that I can't get all those wonderful stories to the kids!!
Kim/1/Ca - Yeah, Sylvia...........lots of dogs, cats, and old people.
Erin - Build them out of popsicle sticks kim. We haven't discussed those yet
Glenda 1st TN - Syllvia, can't you get the spanish versions?
Sylvia/California - brad, what if they constuct the altars from words... quotes from rylant's stories???
judy3ca - Sharon--I love it! Of course I bought it on your recommendation. But the really cool part is that the school librarian told me recently that a family of one of last year's kids (who revered Rylant) donated the book to the library in my name.
Erin - Is it all right to use cans for totem poles? LOl
Marcia - I am hoping my students revere Rylant too!
Kim/1/Ca - I WISH, Sylvia...........I bought some story books in Spanish for parents to read aloud. But...I can't compose a letter to them to ask if they will and why it is important.
Erin - Judy, do you still have the cans? Or was it Kim? I need them now
Sharon - oh judy... that's wonderful!
Sylvia/California - Glenda, I've been able to find a few, but nothing compared to what I can easily get in English...
judy3ca - Sylvia, I used to work in Spanish. The Scholastic Spanish book club is great.
Jan - Judy, how wonderful!
Sharon - that's like the highest compliment a parent could give, judy!
Marcia - Erin, why don't you use the cans for alters?
Glenda 1st TN - Kim, doesn't your system have someone to write a letter to your parents for you in Spainsh?
Kim/1/Ca - I am so impressed! You and Sylvia and Sadie are ALL bilingual?
judy3ca - Erin, come and get 'em!!!!
Sylvia/California - Kim, send me anything you need translated! Use MS Word and attach it.. sylviaxyz@yahoo.com
Erin - Awesome Judy
Sylvia/California - Judy, if it weren't for Scholastic, I'd probably have nothing!
Kim/1/Ca - Yeah, if I want to wait and wait.........and heaven knows how it will turn out...........I am told the translations sound uneducated.
Marcia - Sharon, I am thinking that $200 donation is a pretty high compliment as well...
Erin - No Kim is making the altars, I'm making totem poles and my parents won't drink coffee fast enough
judy3ca - Sharon and Marcia, yes, I agree--the fact that the author's name went home was pretty remarkable!
brad - Kim, same here
Kim/1/Ca - Oh, Sylvia! Would you? ((((smooches!!!)))))))
Glenda 1st TN - Kim, in that case, take Sylvia up on her offer.
Sylvia/California - I was translating something for a friend in Idaho last night! I like doing it... keeps me away from what I should be doing.. like housework! lol
brad - LOL, erin, I can produce some fast for you (but I'm more of a Starbucks kind've guy. So I don't have "cans" Bags anyone?)
Marcia - Sylvai, they do have some spanish titles on bookcloseouts. Seems like an Eric Carle book was
Sylvia/California - I WOULD, Kim!!
brad - I once saw someone make a turtle out of coffee filters
Sadie T - Kim I al
diane - oh brad, don't say starbucks...i've given up my non-fat mochas
cavey - Oh Brad , I'm with you on the Starbucks. It's so hard to find real coffee drinkers
Sylvia/California - Marcia, not sure... most places don't.... Guess there's not a big market.. but in East Los Angeles.. there is definitely a need...
Sharon - kim... i do a thing with totem poles that works out great... i read whale in the sky to my kids (story of a totem pole) then we read Rainbow Crow and the kids build a totem pole to re-tell the story... but i use big boxes stacked on each other and they paint the main scenes
Erin - We have a great drive through...Coffee Kiosk...they know my car when I come
Kim/1/Ca - That would be great. I will work something up in the morning. I want them to know a few things..........and my letters go home in English........I have no choice.
judy3ca - I shouldn't have teased Brad about majoring in psych--what could be more strange than someone who majors in Spanish?
brad - It actually was quite cute. They also made a butterfly body out of dryer lint and then I just yakked
brad - ((michelle))
Sadie T - Kim, isn't there someone at your school who would translate?
Erin - brad...stop!!!!!!
judy3ca - I love Rainbow Crow!
Sylvia/California - Sharon, that sounds great!! I'd love to see those!
brad - stop what?
diane - hi michelle!!
Erin - Michelle...I thought brad had scared you off with the dryer lint story
Sadie T - I could translate for you, (I see you already got another offer for that), but if you ever would like me to translate something let me know
cavey - Hi Michelle!
Michelle - Hi! what's the buzz tonight! wow, everyone's here!!
Kim/1/Ca - Yes, Sadie. But the one teacher I trust is so overwhelmed right now. She tells me the aides will translate but that the stuff doesn't always come out right..................
diane - hi steve...welcome
Sylvia/California - Kim, just send it on down!..
judy3ca - Hi Michelle!
Sharon - me too, judy... i love that aiya ya ya chant part!
brad - IT was true. I didn't do it. They did
Erin - Stop the insanity!!!!
Michelle - oh, I missed dryer lint? bummer
Marcia - I've got to go, everyone. It's been great chatting with all of you.
Kim/1/Ca - "Months of the Year." please..........
Sylvia/California - Judy!!!!!!!! (good thing I was a child development major and not a spanish major! I'd have been insulted! LOL)
SteveinNY - thanks diane
brad - luv ya' marcia. nite
Michelle - diane!!! I went to Safeway and bought a box of HoHo's in your honor
Erin - Sorry, brad, I couldn't believe it was true. Scary
Sadie T - Hey, Judy, I majored in Spanish... I'm not strange, am I? (Umm... don't answer that)
Kim/1/Ca - NOT all of them........just the header for my calendar........my kids tease me cuz it is blank.
naneb - Sharon, Who wrote Barn Dance?
judy3ca - Night, Marcia!!!!!!
Sharon - bye marcia!
Sylvia/California - Sadie, I'll translate it and then send to you for proof reading! LOL!! You can correct my errors!
diane - night marcia
Michelle - Erin....I got my Words Their Way book yesterday. Haven't had a chance to look through it yet, though
Marcia - Luv you too, Brad! And everyone !
Kim/1/Ca - Bill Martin, Jr.
judy3ca - Sadie, well, no wonder I like you--2 peas in a pod.
Sylvia/California - Bye Marcia!! Good night!! I'm heading to bookcloseouts soon!!!
cavey - Bye Marcia!
Sharon - BILL MARTIN, JR. nan! BLASPHEMY!!!... you didn't know!
Erin - Bye Marcia
brad - Kim needs dryer lint for the header on her calendar??
Erin - We just started this week Michelle. Our third teacher is doing the spelling groups. Has worked out well so far
Sylvia/California - Safeway??? I thought those were bought out! We used to have them here in Southern CA.. but I don't see any around, anymore....
Erin - Did you know Bill Martin Jr. didn't learn how to read till he was in college?
Michelle - I did my MOT presentation to the parents yesterday...three separate presentations actually. It went over very well.
naneb - I did know, but I am on bookcloseouts and I was hoping they had some of his books I thought maybe i was wrong about the author, but no such luck, found 3 Polacco books though
cavey - I know I got here late, but just how much has Brad had to drink?
brad - I know. when she said Safeway, I thought immediately of the seventies
Sharon - i can't wait to read it to my kids, nan... btw, how's the book cd coming?
Kim/1/Ca - Did you know that Bill Martin Jr. published a whole basal series in the 1970s.......very well regarded stuff, by the way.........
Michelle - Safeway is thriving in Oregon, Sylvia.
Sylvia/California - Erin, that's interesting about BMj.
Sadie T - Yikes that's about the 5th time I've been kicked off tonight...
naneb - I have a couple still to come in, 1 CD is finished
Erin - Good job Michelle. I barely got through everything at my Back to School night. We only get one hour
Jan - Great, Michelle. Such a good idea.
diane - safeway is from the seventies? it's still huge here
Sylvia/California - cavey... brad might have been sniffing too many Ho-Ho's tonight!
Sharon - and kim... did you know he didn't learn to read till he was in college?
brad - You don't have a Piggly Wiggly, Michelle?
judy3ca - What's wrong with Safeway? I shop at Safeway.
Erin - Vons is now safeway in California
naneb - I had to send Mary's back cuz it wasn't loud enough so she is redoing it
Michelle - A school board member was there and complimented me on the presentation afterwards.
Kim/1/Ca - Well......it must be all your tatoos and nose rings and other piercings, Sadie...............
Sharon - who are we waiting on, nan?
diane - no piggly wiggly, brad
Jan - Sadie, what are you doing? Why do you keep leaving?
Michelle - No Piggly Wiggly. Sounds like curly fries to me, brad.
Erin - All right, Michelle
judy3ca - Nan, who is Mary?
Sadie T - Yes, Kim, that must be it!
Sylvia/California - Michelle, how'd it go???The MOT presentations? I'd love to hear how you did the presentation!
Kim/1/Ca - brb phone call...........
Sadie T - I am not leaving by choice, Jan, it's my stupid computer...!
Erin - cavey, ignore him. He thrives on attention
Jan - Michelle, that is great! Congratulations
brad - brb more to drink
Sylvia/California - Wooo hoooooo Michelle!! Way to go, girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sharon - i wanna hear judy's, nan's and marcia's readings! did anyone else here participate?
Erin - OK everyone log off while brad is gone and he'll freak LOL
Sylvia/California - Piggly Wiggly?? none of those here?? Is that a 'for real' place?
Jan - Oh, sorry, Sadie, I thought you were ADHD.
diane - oh...update on my back to school night...i've had several parents come up to me to thank me for the read alouds...they were stunned by the woman who wanted to know why i'd read to the children
Sylvia/California - Awww, Sadie!!!!!!!!!1
Michelle - We, the other English third grade teacher and I, presented the strategies we are teaching, described the research just a bit and gave the parents a list of questions they can use to help their kids with the strategies. I modeled a bit with Thank You, Mr. Falker.
Sharon - yes it is, sylvia... lots of em here
diane - i did, sharon...i read tulip sees america
naneb - One of my favorite is from Texas, I can't remember whose tape it is
Sylvia/California - I'm game, Erin, but will everyone else do it???
SteveinNY - piggly wiggly is a chain in the south
Erin - I'll do it...
Sharon - yay, diane!
Sylvia/California - diane, what grade?
cavey - No way, I'll lose my color again!
diane - 3rd, sylvia
Erin - Cavey...lol...everyone will keep their same color no stealing
Sharon - brad didn't participate? boo, brad!
Sylvia/California - I can't believe anyone would NOT want to read aloud to third graders, diane!
naneb - I think maybe it was Gails, is she from Texas?
Sylvia/California - All this time I thought Piggly Wiggly was a fictional place! Shows how poorly traveled I am! LOL!
Michelle - I wanted to participate, but I was too slow up the uptake. They had enough people by the time I got the messages.
Sharon - gail is from n.c.
Erin - My third graders love read aloud
diane - weird mother, i guess...
naneb - everyone loves read alouds
Sadie T - What are you talking about that Brad didn't participate in?
naneb - Hmmm, I don't know whose tape it is
Sharon - awww michelle... but i could copy the c.d. and send you when i get it?
brad - very funny gals, like I can't page down
Sylvia/California - naneb! You would think so! Our school is training the parents to read aloud and then go into classrooms to read to the kids! I love it!
Sharon - a book reading tape project from yahoo group, sadie
Erin - What are you talking about brad?
Sylvia/California - What project are you all referring to? Sounds like I missed out on something great!!
Sadie T - Yeah, Brad, what are you talking about?
brad - log out and keep your colors?? He thrives on attention??
diane - do you guys hear something?
Erin - I don't get it brad. That doesn't make sense to me
Michelle - That's neat, Sylvia. At the conferences last night, I had a dad volunteer to help in the classroom 2 days per week. I love dad volunteers!
cavey - I think you're paranoid Brad
Sharon - kinda like whining, diane?
Sadie T - No idea what you're talking about.
brad - sylvia, that sounds cool. Who's training?
Sylvia/California - Michelle, yes! I especially love it when dads come in!! When I do my home visits, I love to meet the dads...
Erin - Get over yourself brad. We have more important things to talk about than you!!!
diane - yeah, sharon, this little buzz in my ear
Sylvia/California - Brad, our REA Literacy Coordinator is doing the training
SteveinNY - hey who's better than brad?
Erin - LOL diane and sharon
brad - bravo, i like this steve guy
Erin - That's great Sylvia!!
Sylvia/California - Brad 'n Steve... the chat duo!!!!! LOL!
Sharon - better than brad? maybe sliced brad?... oh boy... i really need aac
brad - rofl at sharon
SteveinNY - that wasn't a bad pun, Sharon
Michelle - my principal and Literacy Coordinator asked me today to present at our inservice in wednesday. What do they want me to present? The proper way to write lesson plans for Reading and Writing. Definitely not what I was expecting! sheesh! I hope my colleagues don't save their tomatoes from lunch to throw at me.
diane - oh man, sharon...that was horrible
Erin - Good one Sharone
Erin - Sharon
brad - More important things, ERin? Like Big Brother 3?
Erin - I need ac too
Sharon - i KNOW, diane... it's the heat, i tell ya!
Sylvia/California - I used to work at a school where al the teachers did home visits, just because we thought it was a good thing to do... Now that 3 of us moved to a different school, we are the only ones who do them...
naneb - It is Saving Sweetness, Suzanne from Texas is reading it, her accent is perfect for the story
Erin - Coming from someone who watched American Idol I'll regard that as a compliment Thank you very much
Sylvia/California - Ohhhhh geeeezzzz Michelle!!!!!!!! lesson plans??? ick!
Sharon - can't wait to hear, nan
Sadie T - So Michelle what is the proper way to write lesson plans for Reading and Writing and Tomatoes?
Erin - Oh Michelle.
Sylvia/California - Hiya Kim!! You look familiar! lol
SteveinNY - I do home visits because it's hard to communicvate on the phone with many of the parents from other countries
brad - sylvia, I'm thinking about doing them next week. already talked with administrator (we must be accompanied) How do they go?
diane - sylvia, i'd love to do home visits but because of some of our families' "situations" we aren't really comfortable
Sylvia/California - Nan, could I pay for a copy of that CD you were referring to?
brad - Kim, they were very mean to me while you were gone. (mommy!)
Michelle - It's "Focus" and "Task Analysis" they want me to focus on.
Kim/1/Ca - Sorry....phone has been ringing a LOT. One of my dear teacher friends passed away last night. Very hard for all of us.
Erin - Yeah, Kim, Steve had to defend him.
brad - oh, sheez, talk to jan on that one, michelle
Erin - Oh I'm sorry Kim
Erin - You have had a rough year so far
Sadie T - Kim, I'm so sorry
Sylvia/California - Brad, there is absolutely no better way to get to know what makes a kid tick! I go alone, and frankly tremble a little bit, since I work at an inner city school.... but it's worth it!
cavey - Sorry for you Kim
diane - oh...sorry kim
judy3ca - (((KIm)))) So sorry about your friend.
Michelle - Jan, come hold my hand...or trip on an overhead cord or something for me.
Kim/1/Ca - I'm sorry, Brad. (kiss kiss)
Erin - LOL michelle
Sylvia/California - diane, I know what you mean! I work in East Los Angeles... not the safest place to be.. but I figure if the kids can make it every day, I can make it out to their turf....
Sylvia/California - Ohhh, Kim!! I'm so sorry!!
Erin - Kim, don't feel sorry he deserved it. He started it. tattle tattle LOL
Kim/1/Ca - He was diagnosed with a brain tumor Christmas Eve........metasized melanoma............went down fast. His wife is my best friend. Surreal day today...........
SteveinNY - sylvia, I used to do the samme in an inner city school, but when people see you are from school, they are usually very nice, regardless of their living situation
diane - i work in an environment where many people are living in the middle of nowhere "hiding"...hiding with lots of guns, drugs, and distrust of school.
Jan - Michelle, did you mention task analysis?
brad - just curious does anyone work at an outer city school? (hm)
Glenda 1st TN - When you make your home visits, what topics do you cover?
Kim/1/Ca - WHAT kind of trouble is my little Braddykins in?
cavey - Home visits are okay except for the dogs
Michelle - wow, kim. I'm sorry. Did you work today?
Erin - Kim, I have known so many people this last year who have been diagnosed or passed away from some kind of cancer. It is very scary and sad
Sylvia/California - Steve, I wholeheartedly agree! Last year was my first year in this community, so lots more people know me, by now...
Erin - I work at an outer city school. Smack dab in the suburbs
Michelle - ahha! I knew she was there.
Kim/1/Ca - Yes..........it was better to work. Connie is surrounded by family so she was not alone.
Sharon - time for me to turn in guys... sleep sweet when you sleep
Jan - Kim, I'm so sorry. I just had a friend who passed away today from cancer. Much too frequent.
Sylvia/California - brad.. outer city.... I live in an outer city! LOL!! waaaaaaaaaay outter Los Angeles! LOL!! aka suburb! hee hee!
SteveinNY - I'm in the suburbs now, grateful to be there too
judy3ca - Night Sharon--thanks for some good thoughts!
brad - goodnite sharon
Erin - Sylvia where are you at
Erin - By sharon
Kim/1/Ca - He was an AIMS facilitator.......I can still see him in his lab coat with the bugs hot glued all over it...................
diane - brad...i'm so rural i would say we are outer city...lol
Glenda 1st TN - I'm almost rural.
cavey - bye Sharon
Sadie T - Goodnight Sharon
brad - that's scary. How old Kim?
Sylvia/California - Glenda, I usually start with letting the kid or the parent take the lead, if nothing starts up, I ask the parent what the best thing about their kid is... Kids love to hear the answers to this.. and so do I
Erin - I'm up by Magic Mountain
Sylvia/California - G'night, Sharon!
Michelle - I work in a small town.
Kim/1/Ca - Only 53 Brad.........two college aged kids........they are shell shocked.
diane - night sharon
Erin - Too young Kim
Sylvia/California - Erin, are you familiar with So. Cal?
Glenda 1st TN - Sylvia, How long do your visits last?
brad - that's awful. you never know
Erin - Yes, Sylvia. I am in Valencia, grew up in San Fernando Valley
SteveinNY - Sylvia, are you near El Monte?
Kim/1/Ca - I work in a high poverty, very rural area................east of Palmdale.
judy3ca - Sylvia, I am, waving hand! I LOVE Southern California!
brad - Valencia, home of the orange
Sylvia/California - Glenda, depends, most about 20-30 min.. but if the conversation gets good and I don't have another appointment I've been known to stay an hour! Lots of times the parents make dinner! YUM!
Erin - And the San Fernando Valley, home of "gag me with a spoon"
cavey - And don't forget Magic Mountain
Kim/1/Ca - Valencia........you have to ratchet up your nose a notch just to drive through...........
Sylvia/California - Steve, I'm in the San Gabriel Valley... about an hour out of Los Angeles.. tough commute!
Jan - No, Brad, Orange County, where I live, is home of the orange!
judy3ca - And I'm from Manhattan Beach, "surf's up."
Sylvia/California - How do you know El Monte,Steve.. You're way over in NY!!
Erin - Hey Kim, don't get personal. I live in a very small house in Valencia
Glenda 1st TN - Sylvia, that is really neat. What grade do you teach, I can't remember.
Kim/1/Ca - Of course you CAN'T just drive through.....the traffic around all those "planned communities" is just horrendous................
Erin - The homes near my school in Castaic are more expensive than mine
SteveinNY - a couple of months ago I visited a family from Lebanon, and the mother gave me coffee, then told my fortune by reading the coffee grinds
Sylvia/California - Valencia is about a two hour drive for me, I'd guess....
brad - (shall we ratchet together at this knowledge, KIM)
Michelle - I would have thought it was Yuma. Oranges everywhere you look there.
Jan - I work in Redondo Beach, next door to Manhattan Beach
Glenda 1st TN - Jan, I've always been told we were the home of the Big Orange. Have you moved to TN?
SteveinNY - That is where my cheap boss would put us up in my last career when we did work in LA
Erin - Sylvia, probably
Sylvia/California - Steve, so she told you you'd soon be visiting El Monte???? Get your money back! LOL!
Kim/1/Ca - Castaic USED to be very working class...............things change, huh?
Michelle - plus Yuma isn't in California. Bonus points.
SteveinNY - Jan, that is an awesome dcommunity
Erin - The houses up the hill from the school go for over 500K now
Kim/1/Ca - Erin, my mom lives behind Granary Square.
Sylvia/California - Glenda, I teach 3rd, but did home visits for kids at 4th, 5th, and 6th which I taught for the last five years previous to this new school
Erin - When I drive by I'll yell "HI"
Jan - Oh, no---we are the home of the orange! Well, we were, before they cut them all down to build houses!
Sylvia/California - Steve! that's REALLY a cheap boss!!
Kim/1/Ca - When the Palmdale High tennis team visited Valencia High for the first time........the kids were awestruck. I was heartbroken. They had NEVER seen a school so nice and clean....so well maintained.
Glenda 1st TN - The home visits are a nice idea. I know you get a lot of info from these visits. My hat is off to you.
Jan - Steve, Redondo Beach or Orange County?
Erin - And actually they aren't maintaining Valencia High that well.
judy3ca - I don't know how you guys east of us do this--I'm so tired on Fridays. Good night my friends!
Sylvia/California - Redondo Beach and Manhattan are the complete opposite of where I teach!! Waaaaaaaaaaay over on the other side of the spectrum!
brad - good night judy
Erin - Bye judy.
diane - night judy, sleep well!
Glenda 1st TN - Judy, it is called taking a nap.
Sadie T - Good night Judy@
Michelle - goodnight judy.
Kim/1/Ca - G'night, Judy.....know how you feel............any good movies on tonight?
cavey - It's the Starbucks Judy! good night bookworm!!
Jan - You're right Sylvia---so near, yet so far!
Kim/1/Ca - I graduated from Hart High.......BEFORE its renovations.
Erin - I went to Catholic schools in the valley for 1-12 grade
Sylvia/California - Glenda, I like to tell of the little boy in my class who was a struggling reader in second grade... couldn't read much, couldn't write much. When I went to his home, he has about 10 varieties of birds there.. He told me facts about them that I would never have known!! He really knew his birds!!
Kim/1/Ca - Chaminade?
SteveinNY - Jan, I thought that area was really cool, Redondo, Manhattttan
Erin - Hart High still has an excellent reputation
Erin - Louisville
Sylvia/California - G'night judy!!! it's still early!!!!!!!!!
Erin - Louisville for high school,
Kim/1/Ca - My bro in law and sis both taught at Chaminade...............did you go there?
Jan - It is,Steve. It is wonderful. I love working there. I am a consultant so only there one day a week, but it is an awesome area.
Erin - No I had some friends who did.
Kim/1/Ca - Wow, Sylvia..............!
cavey - I've gotta go too- it's late in the land of peanuts and ham
Glenda 1st TN - Sylvia, I often feel like it is the end of the school year before I really get to know my little ones. I was thinking perhaps the home visits would help a great deal.
brad - How many districts do you work for, Jan?
Erin - bye cavey!
Erin - bye cavey!
Kim/1/Ca - you're a poet and didn't know it, cavey.........
Jan - Very expensive, though, Steve. Houses are nearly a million---and that is a very modest home.
Erin - sorry
cavey - Goodnight guys!
brad - cavey, peanuts and ham, lol goodnite
Sylvia/California - I learn so much about the kids and how they interact with their parents on their 'turf'... Home visits are sort of a pain, but, I think, a necessary part if I'm truly to know the kids in my class.
diane - bye cavey
Sylvia/California - G'night Cavey!! Don't be a stranger!! come back again!
Kim/1/Ca - Hmmmm.........I wonder if I should do that, Sylvia............what reason do you give them for dropping by? Do you make appts?
Michelle - hmm......yes, Jan, Task Analysis. I actually did think of you after I was asked to do this little presentation. Apparently, the principal says that she can tell that I'm more focused in my teaching of reading and writing because I have the tasks broken down and I'm focused in my Lesson Plans. (I have nothing to add to the SoCal High school experience)
Sadie T - Goodnight Cavey!
Glenda 1st TN - How soon do you start your visits after school starts?
Michelle - bye, cavey
Sylvia/California - Glenda, that's why I loved looping so much!! I had more time to really get to know the kids and, especially, because I could see the growth over time!
Jan - Brad, one on a regular basis (contract), others as time permits, and I also work for the Univ of CA, Irvine campus.
Erin - All right, my nose is red, my throat hurts, I'm going to bed. I enjoyed tonite
brad - so, you have an office with your contracted district or on campus???
Sylvia/California - Kim, I tell them I would like to visit their homes to get to know them and their kids better. I tell them it's good for the kids to see that their teachers and parents are working together for the benefit of the student.
SteveinNY - night, Erin
Erin - See you guys next week
Glenda 1st TN - I've thought about looping. I think the group I have this year would be a good group to loop with.
brad - OH, erin, what is that buzzing sound I hear
Jan - You go, girl! Michelle, your principal is right. Task analysis is very important. We sometimes overlook it.
Sadie T - Good night Erin!
Erin - LOL brad
diane - me too guys...i'm sleepy
Erin - brad is mad at me.
Kim/1/Ca - g'night, Erin!
brad - (<--not too versed in Hunter) How do you do task analysis?
Jan - Night, erin
Sadie T - Good night Diane
SteveinNY - night diane
Sylvia/California - I tell them there is no agenda, other than a time to see a side of thekids I might not be able to see at school, as in the pets they like, their favorite toys, or even, their gardens or favorite trees!
Sylvia/California - Bye Erin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glenda 1st TN - Sylvia, do you find you get really attached to your students and their families after you have looped with them?
Sylvia/California - G'night Erin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michelle - goodnight, Erin
SteveinNY - Sylvia, I assume you speak spanish
Kim/1/Ca - So many of my parents don't have transportation...............I wonder if this would work for conferences.............
Jan - Task analysis is HARD! I avoided it as long as I could in my workshops. It is breaking down an objective into its component sub-objectives for purposes of preassessment and, then, instruction. It is the basis, now, of differentiation.
Sylvia/California - Glenda! Most definitely! I've been gone from my former school for two years, now. (yes, Steve. I do speak Spanish) I still get together with a group ofparents every few months... we grew very close!
brad - I'm sure its too complicated for the chat, but if you could post more on the board or email I'd appreciate
Sylvia/California - differentiation.. I keep hearing that quite a bit, these days....
brad - Sadie??
Glenda 1st TN - Sylvia, I had one little boy for two years. He informed the class at the beginning of the second year that I was "his Mrs. High."
Sylvia/California - Brad, I agree. I'd like to hear more about it... but it does sound 'painful'! LOL!
Michelle - See...if I did home visits, I'd have to bring an interpreter with me, sometimes Spanish, sometimes Russian
Sylvia/California - Hiya Sadie! Welcome back!
Sadie T - Brad, you and Jan and I can have a fun exciting discussion about task analysis on the chatboard....
Sylvia/California - LOL,Glenda!!!!
brad - Sort've like some procedure at the dentist, huh, Sylvia?
Jan - I will, Brad. It will be very helpful for the learners you have.
Kim/1/Ca - That is an issue for me, too, Michelle..........
Sadie T - I am just coming and going tonight... usually don't have problems but my computer is acting very weird tonight
Sylvia/California - You guys discuss it, I'll just lurk, as I usually do! So much of this stuff seems so new to me! I wonder what rock I had been hiding under????
brad - Why the influx of Russian, Michelle? THat's an interesting group
Kim/1/Ca - Full moon tomorrow, Sadie........that must be it.
Jan - If you are the analytical type, task analysis is not hard. For a global thinker like I am, it is difficult!
Glenda 1st TN - Well, guys my after school nap wasn't as long as I needed. I'm going to have to call it a night.
Michelle - And I'll just have tomatoes thrown at me from the side while you all are discussing TA
Sadie T - I have had a couple of Russian students, also
Kim/1/Ca - g'night Glenda.........
brad - I lie somewhere in the middle Jan
Sylvia/California - brad.. yes.. like the dentist! BUT I like my dentist.. especially since I've ONLY had ONE cavity in my life!!!!!!!! all I do is go in every six months for the regular checkup and I'm home free!!
Michelle - but Glenda...I'm just about to break out the HoHo's
brad - bye, glenda. good to see ya
Jan - Task analysis can be almost as exciting, Sadie, as standards and objectives!
Kim/1/Ca - I dislike tomatoes, Michelle, and refuse to throw them.
Sadie T - Spanish, Russian, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Portuguese, Hindi, Punjabi...
brad - LOL, Jan. The teachers don't understand how I can "get into" that. They are awed that I love to plan
Sylvia/California - I am most definitely NOT analytical! I'm definitely more global.. more whole language, too...
Sadie T - Oh goody, Jan, something else as exciting as standards and objectives!
Sylvia/California - Ok,Glenda!! Thanks for letting me share about my home visits!
Michelle - there's a well-established Old Believers' community here, Brad. This town and in Minnesota.
Jan - Michelle, you are invited to LEAD the task analysis discussion. It is not my strength.
brad - Old Believers?
Sylvia/California - Geeezz.. I'm slow.. I read the bottom of the board and respond about two or three steps behind! LOL!
Kim/1/Ca - yuck..........ptui ptui..........standards and objectives...............(grrrrr) I don't mind THEM so much as the "documentation" of them in my lesson plans. What a pain in the butt.
Sadie T - Yes, Michelle, you are invited... please RSVP...
Michelle - Sylvia...I can tell. I think I can go either way.
Sylvia/California - Kim! ditto for me!
brad - I don't understand what the pain is??
Sylvia/California - Michelle? sorry.. not sure what you are referring to.... THAT is how far behind I am! LOL
Jan - Keeping up with this group is not easy, Sylvia! I miss half the stuff because it rolls off while I am responding to something else.
Michelle - "Old Believers"...refers to a religous group. Very strict. Kind of an Eastern Orthodox version of Mennonite.
Kim/1/Ca - The pain is taking all the time to look them up to "justify" everything in my stepford curriculum............THEY adopted Open Court and Saxon.........WHY DO I HAVE TO DOCUMENT THE STUPID STANDARDS THAT GO WITH THEM? Sheesh..........talk about wheel spinning and wasting precious time.
SteveinNY - I just put standars numbers next to my objectives in my plans, and the director assumes I know what I'm talking about
Sylvia/California - glad I offered to lurk... I could never lead that kind of discussion! I want to be the permanent lurker.. occassional responder... and how in the world is occassional spelled? I always get that wrong!
Jan - Kim, I love standards and objectives! I write objectives to relieve stress. LOL
Michelle - sylvia...I understand....i can't read and respond at the same time, so I get behind too.
brad - I've never heard of them Michelle. I just think it's interesting because that's one group we don't have here.
Sylvia/California - Oooohhhh Kim!!!!!!!! Open court??????? I'm soooo sorry!!!! lol
brad - LOL, Steve, I"ve done that too after a long night
Kim/1/Ca - So, Steve...just write 1.11 and 1.25 next to everything.............hee hee hee.........
Sylvia/California - Steve.. reading 1.0...Writing 1.0, 1.3 lol!
SteveinNY - Kim, just write ELA4 or Science 3 next to an objective. It deosn't even matter if it realtes. The director isna't going to pull out the standard and check
Kim/1/Ca - Oh please, Jan! You are teasing me,, right?
brad - that was one of the committees I worked on this summer. State got new standards. The committees made up guides that matched standards and benchmarks to acitivities and page numbers
Michelle - Kim, 2 years ago I was in the same boat. I was spending an entire day looking up standards to put into my LP's. I talked to my principal about it, and it was stopped. we don't have to do that anymore.
Sylvia/California - Steve!! ya gotta include the 'point 3' or 'point 35'!!! LOL!!
Sadie T - Brad, we were doing that too
Jan - Oh, dear, I ask for the standard in WORDS when I observe!
SteveinNY - ok 3.2
Kim/1/Ca - What a pencil pushing geek bureaucrat committee, brad...............ewwwwwwww...............ptui ptui..........
brad - We have to write out the indicator in words in our plans
SteveinNY - When I teach ESL students the days of the week, what standard is that?
brad - I was paid a nice little stipend considering it wasn't that hard
Sadie T - "Okay kids, what did we learn today?" -"We learned 4.3, 1.2 and 2.3"....
Kim/1/Ca - Fine.....I will give the standard when being observed. I can JUSTIFY everything I do. I don't waste time............but I resent MINE being wasted when I could be doing something creative and productive for my kids. Stupid.
Jan - Kim, I'm serious. I love fooling around to get a precise objective! My daughter is the same way. We once spent an entire Sunday on the phone writing an objective for cause and effect. It was the most magnificent objective I've ever seen!
Sylvia/California - Steve, 3.2 or... reading-student will read aloud with fluency and expression while the teacher is being observed by Jan! LOL!
Michelle - we have district standards written for our ESL kids, Sadie.
brad - creative with coffee cans and altars?
Michelle - most of our students....70%....are LEP
Kim/1/Ca - Days of the week......Kindergarten math, I think.................I could look it up but my stomach just recoiled at the mere thought..............
Sadie T - California has ELD (ESL) standards
Sylvia/California - CA standards... would be the Speaking Domain... um... Beginning level.. and um... I don't know the 'something point something' for that! LOL
brad - I had a long talk with my principal just last week about the absurdity of posting the standard. She agreed we could bring it down to kid language for our posting
Kim/1/Ca - Are the ELD standards online? That is ONE set of standards I don't have in my handy dandy notebook o' standards...............
Sylvia/California - Jan, you ARE analytical!!
Jan - Good for your district, Brad! I believe in standards with words!
SteveinNY - we have then in NY too, but why does a teacher have to justify teaching the obvious?
Sylvia/California - Mine are 99%LEP
brad - Remember Jan, our state goes standards to benchmarks to indicators. So really we're posting indicators
Jan - Hey, Sylvia, that's good!
Kim/1/Ca - Right, Steve........I am a professional and shouldn't have to justify unless I am not doing my job. Period.
Sadie T - Kim - ELD Standards http://www.cde.ca.gov/standards/eld.pdf
Sylvia/California - Okay, guys! don't tempt me! I'm thinking about going out to my car and bringing in my book bag just to quote you the California ELD standards!! Don'
brad - Unfortuantely steve, you'd be surprised at how UNobvious it is for most
Sylvia/California - Don't tempt me!!
SteveinNY - I mean, who gives a hoot which number correlates with months of the year, the kids need to know it, and we should teach it
Kim/1/Ca - DON'T DO IT, Sylvia! Nooooooooo...............
Kim/1/Ca - RIGHT again, Steve!
Michelle - LOL, sylvia
Jan - InCA, our standards ARE indicators. We are different from everyone else. Naturally.
brad - Numbers only go in plans here. We post indicators in kid language (and state them too. "By the end of today. . .)
Sylvia/California - *still tempted*... but realizing I'd have to go downstairs... out to the garage...
Sylvia/California - By the end of today I will have had a fun and educational chat. What's the standard there????
Kim/1/Ca - GIVE ME A BREAK (eerrrrrkkkkkkk) Brad........you have GOT to be kidding!!!!!
Sadie T - Days of the week.... "Produce simple vocabulary (single words or short phrases) to communicate basic needs in a variety of social and academic settings"
Kim/1/Ca - You are MESSING with me.............not nice.
brad - Have to; it's in evaluation criteria
Kim/1/Ca - Speaking and LIstening, right?
Sylvia/California - Brad!!!!!!!! You and the other non Pacific time people are on a new day, right now!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michelle - so is it a state requirement that the standards be written on LP's in California? No wonder everyone's moving to Oregon.
Sylvia/California - Awwwwwww Sadie!!!!!!!!! You did it!!!!!!!!! You gave in to temptation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kim/1/Ca - Time Zones..........surely THAT is a standard......somewhere.........(grrrrr))
Sylvia/California - Not a state requirement, Michelle!!
Sadie T - Fluency and Systematic Vocabulary Development, Kim
Sylvia/California - BUT.. we DO have to post the standards on our bulletin boards!!
SteveinNY - time zones, social Studies standard 2.79594783569573405876098
Jan - Kim, we just want to be sure that the teachers are aware of the standards and keep their curriculum in alignment. They don't complain about it. These are new teachers, though, so it helps them to know what the standards are. Also, the principal is accountable for the curriculum being in alignment with the standards, and that the teacher is teaching to the standards of the grade level.
Sylvia/California - Kim, Pacific STANDARD time! hee hee!
brad - see, that posting on bb's is idiocy to me
Kim/1/Ca - It's a stupid-a** administrative requirement that make principals and board members feel really good about themselves.....as they pile more and more on our plates and make us ACCOUNTABLE for the education of children who arrive at school ill-prepared and mal-parented.
Sylvia/California - I was telling a brand new teacher at our school that I think she knows more about early literacy and standards than I do, even tho I have 20 years of experience!
Sylvia/California - bb's??? posted where, brad?
brad - I just posted today on another board, "Teachers should be teaching from standards and benchmarks; not textbooks and programs" You just resent it Kim, becasue you are the kind of educator who keeps up with the field and knows "what's best" Too many don't and the rest of us "suffer."
Kim/1/Ca - I understand your reasoning Jan and I appreciate it. I think that if the children arrive where they are supposed to be........mastery of curriculum taught..........then who in heck should CARE how I get them there? I resent the intrusion on my precious time.
brad - Tsk tsk, Kim misplaced anger (psych major)
Sylvia/California - brad, I'd have to agree....
SteveinNY - sylvia, if she knows more about the standards, she is obviously a better teacher than your 20 years of experience could make you
Sylvia/California - Kim, I understand what you mean, too.....
Jan - Teaching to standards is not a choice. They are mandated by the state.
brad - bb's = bulletin boards
Kim/1/Ca - I DO teach the standards and I do it very well.........I just don't like having to document them in my lessonplan book which should be for MY benefit ....... not checked like some kind of school kid late with his homework.
Sylvia/California - Steve, She ONLY knows how to teach using standards and writing them down.. .and early literacy... In my case, I was trained to let the students generate the curriculum, multiage clases and looping... now.. that's pretty much out the door! I'mjust getting used to using and writing standards on everything I touch.
brad - Where I get frustrated is when I see teachers doing plans by opening up the textbooks and guides and not opening up the standards list FIRST
SteveinNY - Jam decent teachers were teaching to the standards long before there were standards
Jan - But, Kim, they should not care about "how" you get them there. As long as the "there" is the standards. The "how" is the expertise of the teacher. The "what" is the state standards.
brad - jam?? LOL, typos is funny (sic)
Kim/1/Ca - You mean 'winging it' Brad? hee hee he...........some of my best stuff has been WINGED. (Wanged?)
Sadie T - Hi Eilene
SteveinNY - Brad, if the textbook doesn't address the standards, the administrators should have bought different one
Michelle - lol @ jam
Sylvia/California - I taught middle school for seven years, and for the last few years I had been teaching 4th 5th and 6th.. so I feel like a new teacher learning all about early literacy.... about how to teach non readers to read.. Most of my students had come to me as readers
eilene - Hi guys!
Michelle - hey there, eilene
brad - agreed Steve, but soem of us don't live in Texas or california
Sadie T - Kim the standards are meant to say "where they are supposed to be" NOT "how they should get there"
Sylvia/California - Most, if not all, of our textbooks must follow the CA standards
Kim/1/Ca - Well, "how they should get there" is the Stepford Curriculum, I am afraid. But I am learning to, uh, circumnavigate...................
Sylvia/California - Eilene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Howdy!!!!!!!!!!!! How you be???
brad - Textbooks are merely resources. They are propagated by administrators, and even our dear old President to try and "teacher-proof" the curriculum.
SteveinNY - all the publishers are writing their texts in alignment with the standards, if they want to sell them, and if they can't sell them in TX or NY or CA, they will never make any money
Michelle - most textbooks try to match CA standards, as it's the biggest market
Sylvia/California - Hey Brad, you're right! I WAS early, tonight! I usually have come in about this time! LOL!
Kim/1/Ca - True story, Steve...........
brad - No textbooks should be the sole curriculum, no matter how well they're linked to the standards
eilene - interesting that you mention that Syl.. had a deep discussion about publishers v. teachers... and how California has some of the few text books aligned with state goals
eilene - I'm doing fine, syl!!! (I love your name!!)
Sylvia/California - Kim, I was used to working without textbooks, too! Now EVERY kids has to have a textbook for the major subjects...
brad - American textbooks do not go into any content in any sort of depth, and are therefore, a resource, not the DRIVING ELEMENT
Michelle - I use NO student textbooks.
Michelle - the textbooks we have are only for "enrichment"
brad - As a resource, I occasionally use them. REading basal has good stories for multiple copies
Sadie T - I do not have a textbook for my lower students... maybe that is why I like the standards so much? No textbook to rely on in place of standards.
Jan - I agree, brad. The teacher should be able to choose which parts of the textbooks--and other materials---are most effective for teaching the standards to the kids. I like standards. I think we need to make sure all kids have access to the same knowledge base. But, I think the teacher needs to decide how to get the standards "into the kids"
Sylvia/California - brad, I agree! But get my district to hear you!!!
eilene - exactly brad!! we do not "scaffold" correctly, and most districts have surrendered control of their curriculum to the publisher
SteveinNY - I use a textbook about 20% of the time,
brad - Thank you. I'll be letting everyone know the ESIA approves this
brad - me, maybe ten percent
Kim/1/Ca - Amen, Jan.........
Sylvia/California - Can I get another AMEN?????? LOL!!!
SteveinNY - Brad, what do you teach?
Michelle - Hallelujah?
Sadie T - Amen!
brad - It fires me up. We have someone on our grade level now who is so by-the-book, it's frightening.
Sylvia/California - Amen, Brother!! Amen, Sister!!!!!! LOLOLOLOL!! Sounds like a standards revival meetin'!! LOL!
brad - 2nd
Sadie T - Brad teaches students.
Michelle - brad, you know...the HoHo's don't unroll as easily as I remember them doing when I was in high school
brad - lol, sadie always says that
brad - Interesting, Michelle, I need to get some and try
Michelle - Sadie...I was thinking the same thing...students
Kim/1/Ca - You brought in HoHo's Michelle?
eilene - no, michelle, you have to nibble off the rolls now
brad - rofl just thinking of your sleeping bag analogy
Sylvia/California - brad, I have a feeling that you and I would be able to teach together... You can keep teaching me what I need to learn about teaching kids to read....
Sadie T - Hi Alta Rose!!
SteveinNY - I like standards too, just don't make me spend an extra 30 minutes a day figuring out which of the objectives align which which standard. Any decetnt objective is included in the standards
Alta Rose / 2 - Hey, there are still people here!
brad - ROFL, Alta Rose comes in just as we talk ho ho's
Michelle - yes...i had to go find them to be sure they still sell them here. Diane can't find them in the store
Kim/1/Ca - (((Alta Rose))))
Sylvia/California - Hey Alta Rose!! Just in time for the Standards Revival!!!!!! Halleluiah!!!!!!!
Jan - Alta, where have you been? We missed you.
Sylvia/California - Alta Rose!! CA is just starting its evening!!!
Kim/1/Ca - (Both hands raised in the air, waving them around) Amen, STEVE!
brad - Poor Canadian girl. I think they have standards there too. Poor cherie
Alta Rose / 2 - Let's try this again.
Sylvia/California - Ok, I think I could teach with Steve, too, but ONE of us has to know the standards!!!
Sadie T - What I want to know is why we (CA) have a standard like this: "Listen to a brief political speech and give an oral critique"... and call it a *Reading Comprehension* standard? Where is the reading?!
Michelle - alta rose, you don't like Standards?
eilene - my district is pretty textbook reliant right now... and "teach to the test" ack
Alta Rose / 2 - Nope. No standards. Makes things easy for us teachers! Lol.
brad - Sadie I've come to the conclusion that your all's standards in Cali are ducked (and take out that d, replace with f)
Alta Rose / 2 - I'm kidding of course.
Michelle - just read the book out loud to them, right Alta?
Sadie T - LOL
Sylvia/California - Sadie, You're right!! Some of those things are very poorly worded and/or poorly thought out!
Kim/1/Ca - <<<<snort You know who WROTE the standards, Sadie? The same political windbags who want you to listen to their speeches!....LOL
Sylvia/California - AWWWWWWWWWW Brad!!!!!!!!! YOU SWEARED!!!!!!!!! Shame on you!!!
Michelle - that is funny, kim. yes, interesting how it has to be a Political speech
Sadie T - LOL Kim!!! At least it doesn't say "...give a critique praising the speech"
Jan - Sadie, is that one of your strange ELD standards? I agree that is not reading comprehension.
Sylvia/California - Kim, I think I could teach with you, too! lol
Sadie T - Yes Jan it's one of my strange ELD standards.
brad - Ours sound like this, "TSW retell plot. TSW identify character traits. TSW read fluently with expression. TSW add numbers up to 9 fluently using any strategy. TSW identify right, acute, and obtuse angles."
Michelle - lol sadie
Alta Rose / 2 - Sorry I'm late. Hubby's friend came over to help hubby in the garage. Hubby was going to take him out for a beer, but the friend said he wanted to visit with me instead. (And hubby too, of course.) So I felt I should visit.
Sadie T - Wow, Brad. Sane standards. What a concept.
Sylvia/California - *thinking sadie is reading thru her standards and is not relaxing in an educational chat*
Michelle - brad, ours sound like that too. although they don't include the "tsw" part.
Kim/1/Ca - Today I had the teacher's lounge in stitches.............I had two minutes to pick up my kids and HAD TO GO REALLY BAD....so I RACED in and then, when done, RACED back out again.......................I was live entertainment. THEN I broke all school rules and RACED to my kids and they thought it was hilarious. Yard duty aide was NOT amused. (hee hee hee)
Michelle - sane standards?
brad - OUrs don't either Michelle, I'm throwing that in for ease in reading
Sadie T - Ya think? Sylvia, I read standards to relax.
Sylvia/California - LOL@Michelle.. TTW??? (the teacher will)???????
eilene - from what I recall, brad, our standards are pretty similar... except the state standardized test doesn't line up with the standards
Jan - That is typical for the ELD, as we discovered. They mix things up. I still don't understand the rationale for that. I understand the mixing of content and lang---just not the assessment. They don't make any sense.
Sylvia/California - *thinking Kim is steering the chat away from standards*
brad - sylvia, I swear like a salty sailor on a bender
Sylvia/California - Sadie?????????? Standards are relaxing?????????????? uh oh... *thinking I might not be able to teach with Sadie... I'm sad*
brad - ours doesn't line up now either, because standards were just created. Test to go with is at least two years away. They're phasing in slowly. But at least this time they have the horse before the cart. Last time, they made up the test THEN the standards
Michelle - do you ever slip in class brad? I tell my kids to "sh i t" about once per year. I already did it this year
Sadie T - I was working with the standards just before coming to this chat... file is still open on my computer... that could be why I keep getting kicked out of the chat (too many files open, or breaking a rule against doing unrelaxing things on a Friday night)
Sylvia/California - (psst... brad... *whispering very quietly*.. I swear quite a bit, too, but don't tell anyone! It's a secret!)
brad - You know what's relaxing?
Sadie T - Sylvia, we can teach together, I'll do the standards, you do everything else.
eilene - my district wants us to post the standards with the work displayed on the bulletin board... It makes no sense to me... sounds like they're checking up on us teachers, but you can justify almost anything to one of our standards
Michelle - drinking a tall glass of wine, brad? that's what I'm doing right now.
Jan - Sadie, anyone who reads standards to relax is a friend of mine!
brad - (I have on occasion, almost said "Shut the f u $$ up" but luckily it turns very nicely into "SHHH ow me your lips are zipped." LOL)
Kim/1/Ca - I almost messed up once, Michelle. I was soooooo annoyed and said "Stop SCR.....HORSING around."
Sylvia/California - Woooohooooooooooo!!! I'm HAPPY again!!!!!!!! Sadie will keep me on track with the standards!!!!!!!!!
eilene - (sylvia... be vewwwy vewwy qwiet...hehehehehe)
Alta Rose / 2 - A prominent poster on the Canadian chatboard (from Toronto) complained of the same thing Eilene. Thank goodness we don't have to do anything like that. Yet.
Sylvia/California - Ooooh brad! That would be soooo funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REALLY LOL, here!
Kim/1/Ca - PUT THE STANDARDS away, Sadie. BACK away from the standards with your hands and arms inside the vehicle at all times.
brad - I have always said Bottom until the other day, without thinking I told some kid to sit on his bottom (he was horsing around) and he said, "What's that?" I went, "YOUR BUTT!" LOL, class in stitches.
Sylvia/California - Eilene, we already have to post the standards on all our bulletin boards. We also have the key standards posted in our rooms.
Michelle - I try to say "sh" and "sit" but it comes out wrong
Sadie T - Inside the vehicle?! LOL
Sylvia/California - Alta Rose, your day will come! Mark my words! LOL
Michelle - I used to say "crap" until a 1st grader let me know that it's a bad word.
brad - Key standards?? Different from regular?? now THAT frightens me.
eilene - I don't understand the sense to posting the standards... they don't make sense to the kids because of the language, and we already know what standard we should be teaching to
Kim/1/Ca - Oh now THAT is TOO MUCH! Standards on your BULLETIN BOARDS? Give me strength............oh my gawwwwwwwddddddddddddd
brad - Forgive me, I accidentally said, that sucks, earlier in the week.
Alta Rose / 2 - I think there are much better uses of our time.
Sylvia/California - LOL@Brad!!
Sylvia/California - Brad, I guess they're just the 'Cliff Notes' version! LOL!!
brad - We have to post standards too, but are allowed to bring them down to kid language after my chat with principal
Michelle - is sucks bad?
Kim/1/Ca - Gosh, Ya THINK SO, Alta Rose........................Sweet Jumping JaHEEEESus in a side car.....
eilene - When it comes to butts, my kids like to say "but ... but..." I say, "No, no buts. Everyone only gets one butt, and you've used yours already." And I usually slap my backside
Michelle - see, you can take the girl outta the trailer park, but ya can't take the trailer park outta the girl.
SteveinNY - well, being up this late arguing about standards is what
Sadie T - Brad, sometimes they want us to identify the "key standards" or the "essential standards" from all the standards... it was easy when I did it, I said, "they're all essential." End of story.
brad - Michelle, it's sort of short for something else, so um yeah, it's not real nice to hear out of a seven year old's mouth
SteveinNY - cks! bUT IT WAS GOOD TO LET OFF SOME STEAM, GOOD NIGHT ALL
Sadie T - LOL
eilene - I agree, Alta Rose...
brad - night steve
Sadie T - Good night Steve
Alta Rose / 2 - (Hubby, catching on, comes into room and says, "Oh. Oh. I didn't make you miss your chat, did I?)
Kim/1/Ca - yer killin me here.................essential standards? key standards..........? (<<<sobbing)
eilene - night, steve
Jan - night,steve
Sylvia/California - eilene, Standards are for show.. for US to know what we are showing to the kids!!!!!!! C'mon girl, get wi 'da program!!! LOL!!! (I had your same exact thoughts! I was thinking of posting them in Spanish so that the 'higher ups' wouldn't be able to read them and know what the kids felt like! LOL)
Michelle - it is? it's short for something? I'm so naive
Kim/1/Ca - g'night Steve. Kick some standards for me.
brad - I really was just kind've thinking aloud to myself and said, "WEll that kinda sucks. . ." Only one kid seemed to care although I know others heard
Sylvia/California - NIghty Night, Stevie!! Wave to me when you come to El Monte!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sadie T - (handing Kim a lot of Kleenex)
Jan - Time for me to snuggle up with the language arts standards. Night, all....see you on the board.
Alta Rose / 2 - Take Care, Jan.
Sylvia/California - Oooh, Alta Rose.. if hubby was involved, it might have been worth it to miss the chat!! Ohhh la la!!!!
eilene - hmmm, when the Department of Accountability shows up then I'll post, otherwise... I'll keep my door closed, thank you!
Sadie T - Sylvia... I gave my students Spanish translations of the standards!
brad - LOL, Jan, soft and snuggly standards
Sadie T - Good night Jan!
Kim/1/Ca - NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO Sadie.........Say it ain's so..................
brad - Sadie?? That's downright evil.
Sadie T - Say what ain't so Kim?
Sadie T - "It ain't so."
Sylvia/California - Oh no!!!!!! Do you really really snuggle up with standards in hand???? I'm starting to worry! LOL
Kim/1/Ca - That you give your students spanish translations of the standards.......as if they weren't bad enough in english.....................
Sadie T - Brad, it isn't evil, my students speak Spanish and don't speak English... (ESL)
Michelle - did you translate them, sadie?
Sylvia/California - Oooh, Sadie! too bad you don't teach my grade level, I'd ask for your translations!!! Save me lots of time!
brad - I'm curious how they translate (wait a sec, no i'm not)
brad - I don't know I'm just wierd. I always thought I should go into curriculum
Kim/1/Ca - they translate like those instruction manuals for japanese electronics brad.............
Michelle - I thought that for a while, too.
Sadie T - Somewhere, the Spanish translations are available on the internet. I'll try to find it if you are serious
Sadie T - No, Kim, it's a good translation.
Sylvia/California - Same for my students... Spanish is their first language.. and same, of course for their parents... so I SHOULD post in Spanish so the parents can read them.. hmmm.. giving me ideas, here!
eilene - but teachers should go into curriculum development... they understand.. they've been in the front lines
Michelle - maybe I should, now that I'm singled out for "task analysis"
Alta Rose / 2 - What we laugh about, and sometimes get frustrated over, is that we have to work on this 3 year plan for Alberta Learning. But we've been working on it for at least 7 years. Keeps some beaucrat employed, I guess.
Sylvia/California - Sadie, I am definitely serious!!!!
brad - But do you post in their language (meaning so they can understand, not meaning, in Spanish)
eilene - It's when nepotism and politics get involved that curriculum becomes the priority and the students not
Sadie T - I will post a link on the chatboard when I find it
brad - Kim, help. Start telling bathroom stories again.
brad - There are way too many political hands in the educational pot (and I'm a screaming liberal)
Sylvia/California - Alta Rose, 3 year plan in 7 years!! Sounds like education!! LOL!!
brad - complete with bleeding heart
Sylvia/California - so they can understand
Kim/1/Ca - Why do African American kids always say they have to "use it" when they want to go to the restroom? Is it a cultural thing?
Michelle - this is the highest percentage of serious talk we've had in a long time.
Alta Rose / 2 - And we're still working on it. Worked on it today, Sylvia.
Sylvia/California - Great, Sadie!! I'll keep an eye open for it...
brad - No, Kim, we all say that around here
Kim/1/Ca - just like that......?
Michelle - I'm gonna quit teaching and get elected to the school board. (yeah, right)
brad - LOL, I was telling Jan today how my kids always ask if we're "fixin" to go somewhere. Is that a cultural thing?
Sylvia/California - I'm a screaming liberal, too!!!!!!! well, only in the rallies and marches I've been in! *high five to brad*
eilene - I have kids who ask "Can I drink water?" imagine that...
Sylvia/California - I'm not African American, so I can't tell you.. Ask me about Hispanic Americans...
brad - I'm just kidding about the bleeding heart though. I'm more Dr. Phil or Judge Judy. Get your sh it together, missy
Sylvia/California - Michelle???? you mean Standards are serious???? LOL!!
Kim/1/Ca - Well.......and they don't say they "live" anywhere.......they say they "stay" somewhere.............
Sylvia/California - fixin... I don't say that.. so i guess it's not in my culture....
Alta Rose / 2 - This is very interesting. (The choice of words thing.)
Michelle - well...someone said they are "sane"...that's close
brad - Now, Kim, I've never heard of that unless you're residing at a hotel or shelter
Sylvia/California - lol!! even *I* say Can I...!!!
Michelle - cuz they aren't anywhere for long? go to mexico for three months in the winter, and stay there. then stay at their home in the US in the meanwhile
brad - The Can I? thing I get mostly from ESL's
Sylvia/California - I love hearing how people from the various regions express themselves!!
eilene - not "can i..." but Can I drink water.... not Can I get a drink of water? Of course everybody can drink water, but can everybody get a drink of water? no....
Michelle - "can i" is from everyone here. Everyone.
Kim/1/Ca - yeah.......it must be a connection to the days of transient farm work or something..............ownership of property being rare............
Sylvia/California - I must be an ESL kid! LOL!!
brad - that's what I'm talking about eilene. usually get that from esl's
eilene - They use that phrase for when they want to go to the water fountain
Kim/1/Ca - I get "Teacher, I can go to the bathroom?"
Sadie T - Yes, everyone here says "can I", too, but "Can I get a drink of water" not "can I drink water"
eilene - All of my kids are not ESL
brad - I NEVER talk to anyone who calls me teacher and that is large in the urban community
Kim/1/Ca - I think it is a syntax thing between Spanish and English.........
eilene - amazing.. I never knew that
Sylvia/California - Kim! yeah!! The kids just use the statement, and change the inflection so that it sounds like a question!! LOL
brad - yes, kim, again, I get that from esl's
Alta Rose / 2 - Not--I have to go pee. (?)
Sylvia/California - Can I chat?? May I chat? hmmm...
Kim/1/Ca - I respond, "Yes, student?" Most of the time they don't get it............
eilene - Oh, all the spanish students call me teacher... it's a throw-back from "maestra"
Alta Rose / 2 - I get that. Or the other.
brad - I have a name. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
Alta Rose / 2 - I say the same thing, Kim.
Kim/1/Ca - That too, Alta Rose!
Sylvia/California - I ALWAYS talk to anyone who calls me teacher.. my last name has thirteen letters in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and now you're all going to ask me what it is, and I won't tell! LOL!
Michelle - it's a cultural thing, though, to call the teacher "teacher". I let it go here, though I wouldn't if I taught in a mainstream population
Sadie T - I get called "maestra" so much, even my Asian students call me that.
Sylvia/California - eilene, you're right! I was noticting that, too! The parents all address me as 'maestra' so the kids just call me teacher
Kim/1/Ca - I am used to the "teacher" thing.........no biggy. And a student today actually made an effort to use my name. I smiled wide and large.
eilene - exactly... it acutally is a title, and one of respect...
Alta Rose / 2 - I'm sure you all get Mom, too, or Dad for Brad. (Or is it Grampa, for you, Brad?)
Kim/1/Ca - Yes.....so I don't get worked up. I hear it in my sleep...........lol
Kim/1/Ca - I get MOMMY a LOT from this group.........
brad - LOL, Alta. No someone called me Dad just the other day. (And my own daughter called me "Megan" HMMM?)
Sadie T - Brad.... your daughter called you Megan??
Michelle - really kim? your whole name? wow! what did you ever decide about your name, anyway?
eilene - I only was called Mom once... thank god, but when the kids tell me that their mom's are younger than me I absolutely die..
brad - Lot of my students don't have DAD around though, so. . . . not as often as when I was in other schools
brad - Megan is best friend at school
Kim/1/Ca - OMG! Brad is really a WOMAN named Megan...............I feel so cheap and used.
Alta Rose / 2 - Lol, Kim!
Sylvia/California - eilene!! Jump in!! ""Like the pine trees lining the winding road, I got a name, I got a name..." Jim Croce.. so brad, Do the kids call you Mr. Croce???? LOL
Sadie T - My high schoolers don't ever call me Mom because I'm not all that much older than them... some of them call me Tia though ("aunt" in Spanish)...
brad - Hey, I can't be Megan, I'm Cynthia Rylant (or Eve Bunting, or someone like that?)
Kim/1/Ca - I made a reference to my son the other day........kids ask how old is my son. Luis pipes up, "But you're too OLD to have children!"
Michelle - I just bought a ton of Rylant books from bookcloseouts. love that place!
brad - No, mostly at this age (still adjusting to second), I'm just happy if they raise hand and stay in seat. There seems to be a lot of running up to your side and following you around the room and that just GRATES on my nerves. always has.
Michelle - oh, kim...did you pay him?
Sadie T - Michelle, you know, Brad wrote all of those Rylant books.
eilene - oh, drat, syl... missed the perfect opening for that song
Kim/1/Ca - Oh.......I caved in. Thanks for asking....................sigh.........
eilene - me too, brad...
Sylvia/California - eilene, you're slow on the uptake, girl!! Wake up!
Kim/1/Ca - Well at least they don't call me gramma...........
brad - believe me, it's more prevalent down here in second than it was in third, eilene
eilene - What are you doing out of your seat? seems to be the FAQ lately
Michelle - I had a lot of my current kids when they were in 1st grade. It's so great having them back in 3rd grade! It's neat to see how they've matured
brad - LOL, the FAQ
Alta Rose / 2 - I took my son swimming at the pool today. Family swim. The clerk asks how old son is. He responds, "Nine" and then procedes to announce loudly--"One 9 year old, one 38 year old!"
eilene - syl, multitasking... failing terribly at it too
Sylvia/California - brad, that must be the thing that most bugs me.. kids following me around and out of their seats so much!!! Older kids knew how to stay in their seats.. or maybe they just didn't care anymore... hmmm...
Kim/1/Ca - "where are you supposed to be?" "sit down" KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF............drone drone drone.......
Sadie T - LOL ALta
Michelle - lol, alta
brad - I just wave silently to them and say, "I'd be happy to answer someone in their seat." Sooner or later they'll get it. I wonder if the first grade teachers let them get away with it?
Sylvia/California - LOL@Alta Rose!!
Alta Rose / 2 - I thought, "shows how much you know. I'm 39." Little _____!
Kim/1/Ca - Not this one, Brad..................
eilene - I like this... "I don't call on talking hands." I cannot tolerate all those ooh ooh ooh's
Alta Rose / 2 - Me neither, when I taught first.
Michelle - I didn't either, brad. drove me nuts, almost
Sylvia/California - Do you ever think we are like the "blah blah blah blah blah" teachers from the Peanuts/Snoopy cartoons???? I sure do!
brad - Me either Eilene. this time of year, I love cuz I'm back, but I hate because there's all that re-teaching of behavior and procedures. Getting used to your style. Housebroken if you will
Kim/1/Ca - I am so tired I am getting dizzy......................(tommy james tune, right?) Must go.......................to bed now...................zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Michelle - I do at the end of the day sometimes
Sadie T - Oh yes, Sylvia, sometimes I think I really sound like that!
Sylvia/California - AWww, poooorrrrr YOUNG Alta Rose!!!
eilene - You can always tell a teacher in the month of September... they're the ones with the wall prints on their foreheads
Michelle - aw, kim. ok. goodnight
Kim/1/Ca - nighty night my friends.......thanks for listening to me......................you are all wonderful...............
brad - Kim, you lazy bones, what is it there, ten?
eilene - Night, Kim
Kim/1/Ca - ((((goodnight))))
Alta Rose / 2 - Take Care, Kim. I thought of you the other day.
Kim/1/Ca - yes, 10:00PM!!! I have been up since 5AM
Sadie T - LOL Eilene
Sylvia/California - Now this might be an interesting thread... How do you respond to kids following you around? ... Or.. How do you respond to kids who wave their hands madly while shouting out?
Sadie T - Good night Kim
Sadie T - I'm going to go too... goodnight all
Sylvia/California - Kim!! It's all the high blood pressure over the fits you were having about Standards!!
brad - Something else. I never realized until my first week in my own classroom how much the pencil sharpener grates on my nerves. It never bothered me in practicum, methods, or student teaching, or even subbing, but
Alta Rose / 2 - Oops. Too late. I'll have to tell her later.
Sylvia/California - Take care!!!!!!!!!!! remember to send me whatever you need translated!!
Michelle - I tell them to sit down and raise their hands. I tell them i only call on people who raise their hands quietly
eilene - me too, brad!!
Michelle - bye, sadie. goodnight
Sylvia/California - I'm OFF FOR THREE WEEKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yesssssssssssssssss!!!
Alta Rose / 2 - I asked our custodian to remove our pencil sharpener. I have one electric one only I'm allowed to use.
brad - so what's that about, not bothering me until then?
Michelle - brad, I disconnected the pencil sharpener and hid it in the closet
Sylvia/California - oops! I'm late again!! Darn! I don't think I've said good night to anyone that hasn't logged off first!!
brad - I do too Alta. The kids are real p i s s e d now because I tell them they have to leave pencil in cup because, "I don't sharpen during the day."
Sylvia/California - G'night Sadie!! Oooohhh! S@#T! I did it again!!!!
Michelle - me too, alta. the kids have to have their own sharpeners
eilene - poor sylvia..... It's too late baby, now it's too late...
brad - WE're not allowed personal sharpeners becaseu they make a mess on teh floor janitors complain
eilene - I think it's annoying because it's used as a stalling tactic
Sylvia/California - Brad, how long have you been teaching?
Michelle - they have to have the kind with the catchers on them. they are on the district's supply list for 3rd grade
Alta Rose / 2 - I think students make more of a mess when they use one, than I do with mine. No mess.
Sylvia/California - eilene! good one!! I've been listening to Carole King's Tapestry CD all week!!!!!
brad - some of them are just now taking the hint (probably because their fresh new pencils are just now TRULY wearing down)
eilene - I love Carole King!!!
Michelle - the sharpener was used in my room as a Meeting Place, i think
Michelle - when I taught 1st grade, I sharpened all the pencils myself after school. but I'm tired of that
brad - LOL, Last year I walked around with what I call a "sharpened pencil" to let them "feel it" I tell them if it's sharp enough to hurt, it'll probably break so we "need to be careful" LOL, the image in my mind of me walking around with that pencil.
Sylvia/California - Oh my gosh!!!!!!!!!!! It's not even midnight and I'm feeling myself getting tired!!!!!! Must be my old age!!!!!!!!!! OH NO!!!
brad - But this year, they are not ready for that jelly
Sylvia/California - Brad!! You're gonna have an early night! LOL!!
brad - So I sharpen them after school.
eilene - syl... you better get yourself moving
Michelle - sylvia...it's not even 10:30! you can't go yet! you're the party girl
Michelle - jelly?
eilene - I have an electric pencil sharpener, and a pencil person...
Sylvia/California - jelly??? what's that, brad?
Sylvia/California - Let's have a PARRRRRRRRRRRRR TEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!! LOL!!
brad - I'll probably break in a "pencil person" later in the year.
Michelle - stuff made out of berries, syl
Sylvia/California - I know, Michelle, It's wierd!!! I'm even surprising myself!
brad - Obscure Destiny's child reference (re: jelly)
eilene - but the pencil exchange is pretty short on the exchange part
Sylvia/California - aww, geeez! I musta missed something again!!!!!!!
eilene - more like Pencil Kleptos
Alta Rose / 2 - I know what you mean, eilene.
brad - But the biggest grater just might be the "following me" thing.
Michelle - the tough thing in my class, is I have 2 groups of students.
Michelle - but brad, they LOVE you.
eilene - "I already have a shadow, and you're not it."
brad - Something else new at this age---they love playing with their supplies. Is this cause my population don't get new things often?
Sylvia/California - Okay.. I'm gonna bite... what's pencil sharpening have to do with jelly???
brad - LOL Eilene
Sylvia/California - LOL@eilene's shadow!
Sylvia/California - Me and my shadow....
Michelle - I think it's the age, brad. not just the population
Alta Rose / 2 - Good one, eilene!
eilene - You should hear the things I say... "I'm not a pizza man, I don't make home deliveries."
Sylvia/California - brad, you moved from third to second???
brad - It's a song, Sylvia, you of all people should know. Destiny's Child Booty-liscious
Sylvia/California - Imagine how I've been feeling moving from 5th to 3rd!!!
Alta Rose / 2 - Mine aren't bad for following. I "trained" them pretty well last year! Lol.
Michelle - I have a friend who moved from 4th to 2nd. it was so hard for her. very stressful year
brad - Oh, well, at least I'll never go lower
eilene - 5th to 3rd? I didn't know that, syl.. no wonder you sound crazy
Sylvia/California - I don't know Destiny's child..... I wouldn't recognize them if they were standing in front of me!!!!!
Sylvia/California - I have ALWAYS been crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
brad - C'mon Sylvia. Not even BEYONCE?
Michelle - yeah, they really don't look like Destiny at all
Alta Rose / 2 - It's hard to go down. You don't know where to start.
eilene - lol@syl
Michelle - I can attest...syl's always been crazy
brad - titty boom, Michelle
Michelle - for the last couple years, anyway
Michelle - wow, I sure know how to kill a party
eilene - never heard of a titty boom before brad. thanks for sharing
Sylvia/California - waaaaaaaaay a long time ago, I taught Kindergarten, as a long term sub. I said I would never go any higher,,, then I taught third... and then second.. and then third.. and then 6th.. and then 7th.. and then 8th.. and then 6th and then 4th and then 3rd and then 4th, and then 5th, and then 6th, and then 5th and then 3rd!!!!!!!!!! lol
brad - you know the old snare and cymbal after the joke. Ba-dum-bum.
Alta Rose / 2 - What's your favourite, Sylvia?
eilene - syl... find a spot, and stick with it!!!
Sylvia/California - Crazy like a fox!!!!!!! LOL!!
brad - or "titty boom"
Alta Rose / 2 - Grade, I mean.
brad - There's a diff, but you have to hear it
Sylvia/California - Crazy!!!!! Crazy, I'm crazy for feeling so lonely
eilene - I get it now, brad... derr!! but after talking about Beyonce
Sylvia/California - I like it just in the middle... with 4th and 5th....
Sylvia/California - "I'm crazy, crazy for feeling so blue..."
eilene - Crazy.... Toys in the attic he is crazy... (Pink Floyd, sorry syl)
Sylvia/California - "I knew you'd love me as long as you wanted..."
Michelle - the thing I loved about subbing was all the different grade levels. I enjoyed them all. But for teaching...I'm glad to be at 3rd. 4th would be heaven. but 3rd is great too.
Michelle - no, Alta'
brad - Toys in the attic, that's Aerosmith
Sylvia/California - Gee I type fast, don't I? LOL
Michelle - opps.....sorry
Sylvia/California - "And then someday you'd leave me for somebody new."
Michelle - hand slipped
Michelle - aerosmith? mainly i remember "love in an elevator"
brad - I love third, but give me a few years before I commit
Michelle - why were you moved to 2nd, brad?
brad - michelle aerosmith goes way back.
Michelle - yes, I know
eilene - I love aerosmith
eilene - Just push play...
Sylvia/California - "in the attic lights voices scream nothin' seen real's the dream leaving the things that are real behind..."
eilene - I sing to my kids all the time... I have an Angel in my room, and so ofcourse I sing.. You're my angel, come and see me tonight...
brad - that's my son's fave eilene
brad - just push play
Alta Rose / 2 - I sing my directions a lot. It gets their attention.
eilene - me too... I sing almost anything... and one of my students said I had a pretty voice... she must be tone deaf, poor thing
Michelle - thinking of angels...I'm trying to teach scientific inquiry in my room. We're talking about hypotheses, and all my kids can come up with is "God made it that way". I'm trying to convince them that God uses science
Sylvia/California - Is 'just push play' a song title?? (Showing my ignorance, here!)
eilene - yes, syl.. new aerosmith
brad - michelle, the principal wants me to try looping I think and I agreed if I could do a 2-3, plus I have a think alike partner in second I'm now across the hall from. And it's been great for camraderie
Sylvia/California - Ohh.. it's new? No wonder it's not on the lyric list I was searching! LOL
eilene - "Well, I was born a coal miner's daughter"
Michelle - I think that would be great! It's been so much easier this year having kids who already know me.
Sylvia/California - brad!! GO FOR IT!! Looping is the best!! I sure wish I could!!
Alta Rose / 2 - I think you'd really enjoy that, brad.
Michelle - many of the teachers at my school would be so against it. they are really tied to their grade level.
Sylvia/California - Now why did you think of 'coal miner's daugher' eilene?
eilene - I wish I could loop, but our test scores were so good that it won't happen
Alta Rose / 2 - I love carrying on things like 4Blocks GR that I introduced last year. You can take things so much further the 2nd time around. And my September this year was so relaxed!
brad - Michelle, going back a little, mine do that a lot in science too
Michelle - that's great Eilene...about the scores. Ours were way up too. They went from 30% passing to 82% passing last year.
Sylvia/California - As you might have noticed I've taught a lot of grades, because of looping!! This is the first group of kids I start out completely new with...
Alta Rose / 2 - Yes, you have to have others willing to do it. At my school, there are 4 loopy teachers. Lol!
brad - so were mine, michelle (tied to grade level) and on purpose my principal shook things up this year. They're fighting it though. Truth--she doesn't have a leg to stand on. (And the teachers she moved are so close to retiring anyway)
eilene - I thought of Loretta because of Patsy ... train of thought... I wish I knew more c&w songs to sing to my kids
Sylvia/California - I'm loopy!!!
Sylvia/California - and crazy, too!
eilene - yes, you are, syl!
eilene - singing patsy again... Crazy...
Sylvia/California - I want to move, but I'd have to take on 32 kids vs the current 20 max.... in k-3....
Sylvia/California - Why, thank you, eilene!!
eilene - our scores didn't go that high, michelle, but high enough for the admin to take notice
Alta Rose / 2 - My parents love it. (Looping) The only thing is at the end of the 2nd year, it's very hard to say goodbye.
Michelle - i always think patsy sounds inebreated (can't spell after tall glass of wine) in "Crazy"
brad - One teacher in my building looped this year K to 1 and she said it's been so great starting the year. . .
Sylvia/California - ya gotta listen to garth brooks, and the judds, eilene!! LOL!! those are the only ones I know off hand! Not much for country, myself...
Michelle - I listen to everything. I can't commit to anything
Alta Rose / 2 - You're more relaxed with your parents in Sept. too. They are relaxed because they know you can teach.
Sylvia/California - this school is the most traditional school I've ever been at.. nobody seems to like multi age, nobody seems to like looping, nobody seems to like much of anything I had done at my previous school....
eilene - I have Brooks & Dunne, and Reba, but that's too rockish for them...I want to croon
brad - my daughter loops and she likes it. You're right, alta, it's hard to say goodbye. Curiously enough her 1-2 teacher moved to 5-6 and she got her again (and we're happy for it; I worked with her)
Michelle - the K teacher my son had, who is wonderful, says that if she ever were moved out of K, she'd quit
Sylvia/California - Michelle??!! You had wine and you didn't share????????
Alta Rose / 2 - My daughter looped 2-3 and liked it. too.
Michelle - Just finishing the bottle now, sylvia
Sylvia/California - I want to loop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michelle - but there are plenty of HoHo's left
eilene - tiny bubbles.... in the wine... makes me happy.. makes me feel fine
brad - I think K's are a special breed
Sylvia/California - gee, michelle... I didn't even get to smell the cork!
eilene - Hi ho... Hi ho... it's off to school we go... We've got the guns to kill the nuns, hi ho.. hi ho hi ho hi ho...
Sylvia/California - Bottle of wine, fruit of the vine.... when you gonna let me get sober? Leave me alone, let me go home, let me go home and start over!
brad - I couldn't do it. Don't feel I could do first justice at this point in my career either
Michelle - well, it broke anyway, so I had to use an old cork. i threw out my Cork collection after one of our chats
Sylvia/California - shame on you, eilene!! LOL!!!
brad - LOL, cork characters
Michelle - is that a Catholic school cheer, eilene?
eilene - I have a ton of those anti teaching songs...
Alta Rose / 2 - K teachers have a special place in Heaven waiting for them, I'm sure!
eilene - that's right michelle`
Sylvia/California - well, folks, I sure hate to be the party pooper here... but.. every party has a pooper that's why I invited me... party pooper...
Alta Rose / 2 - I wouldn't be good in K.
eilene - We're having a party....
Michelle - I would tear my hair out in K
eilene - everybody swingin' dancing to the music
eilene - on the radio
Michelle - I've had nightmares about teaching K
eilene - (Sam Cooke)
Sylvia/California - I always taught my fourth graders: "Homework oh homework, I hate you! You Stink! I wish I could wash you away in the sink! If only a bomb would explode you to bits...
Alta Rose / 2 - Do you guys have half or full day K. programs?
brad - I'd be Judge Judy in K. Don't come crying to me missy. Straighten up and dry those tears!
eilene - I could never teach K.. can't even think about controlling centers
eilene - what tune does that go to, syl?
brad - full day, alta, but doesn't help
Sylvia/California - Ok, friends and fellow teachers.... time for me to go...
Michelle - we have full-day k. but our district is the only one in the state, i think, with full-time K
Alta Rose / 2 - We have full day, too. I don't like it.
brad - nite syl
Sylvia/California - eilene, it's a Jack Prelutsky poem!!! Homework Oh Homework!
Alta Rose / 2 - Take Care, Sylvia.
eilene - Night syl.. I just bought some Prelutsky
brad - why don't you like it alta (I think we have it because of busing; large district)
Sylvia/California - Nighty night!!!!!!!!!! fond farewell!!!!!!! I bid you adieu!!!!!!!!
Michelle - It helps at our school, brad. significant improvement since part-time K
eilene - brand new with him.. cut me some slack, babe!
Michelle - bye, syl. see ya soon
Alta Rose / 2 - I think it's too long a day for the little gaffers. They get too tired.
brad - some all day K's have nap. We don't. They get specials, whereas half days around here don't
eilene - yeah, that's too long for them
Michelle - they take naps at our school. but, yes, i think my son would have done better with a half-day. it's a lot
Alta Rose / 2 - When my daughter was in K, the program was just opening up in our school. Parents had a choice. Most voted for full day, because of working or wanting the day to shop or whatever. I voted for half, but I lost.
brad - Hell they all get loopy after lunch around my building. We're a late school.
eilene - oh, i just got another student in.. grand total is now up to 31
brad - yikes eilene. feeling for ya
Alta Rose / 2 - 31! What grade, eilene?
eilene - i wish i had an aide
Michelle - hey, eilene...when you starting those letters...I just lost a student, so I have 23
eilene - third grade
Michelle - I have an aide, who is a certified teacher. I have her for 1 hour per day
eilene - well, we just started letter writing, so anytime.. We have testing next week, so maybe the week after?
brad - Where is she at the rest of the day, Michelle?
Michelle - ok.
Alta Rose / 2 - My son is in grade 4. All classes have 30. I don't know this yet, but they are hiring another teacher to make a 5th Gr. 4 class. So some kids will move to a new class.
Michelle - I'm just a'waitin for you
Michelle - she works with the title 1 teacher.
eilene - okay, michelle, maybe in two weeks
brad - Hey I wonder whatever happened to moldy classroom girl?
Alta Rose / 2 - I was wondering the same thing, brad.
eilene - there's only two English third grade classes. the other room has 30 students as well... I'm short a desk, I have no reading text... I work in the freaking ghetto
Michelle - oh yeah. lol. lol
brad - join club eilene
Michelle - moldy classroom jen. wounded jen from OH
Michelle - the spanish 3rd grades only have 20 kids
Michelle - at our school
brad - after a while, I was like either p i ss or get off the pot, girl. Call the paper. I don't buy that small town crap. (Dr. Phil talking)
eilene - can I not join and forego the dues, brad?
Michelle - i hear ya, brad
eilene - yep,
brad - I think it's nice that people want to "save the world" in education, but if you want to work in those kind of places you have to have or grow a spine.
Alta Rose / 2 - I just heard on the news that they discovered mold in a school in a nearby community. But at least it's out in the open and being dealt with.
eilene - It got soft over the summer...
Michelle - idealism only gets you so far if you aren't willing to do something about it
Alta Rose / 2 - I love Dr. Phil--"How's it working for ya?"
Michelle - mold was a big issue in portland schools this spring/summer. schools closed
eilene - spines... speaking of, I had a boy reach up the back of a girl's shirt today... My spine's not ready for this stuff so soon
brad - LOL, the first month I was in my building last year (inner city) I was mouthing off about soemthing and three teachers looked at me and said, "Well, he'll last." They said, "you're perfect for this place. You'll be good. You catch on early." LOL, I'm glad they think so cause some days I wanna run screaming from the building.
Michelle - my old classroom had a big mold issue. I always had a rash on my neck.
brad - scary michelle
Michelle - it got delt with
Michelle - dealt
eilene - ew! michelle. they did eventually clean it up, right? Did they have to close the building down?
brad - I had a boy just about ready to snatch down a skirt, I think, a few days ago. Luckily he caught my "dirty look." This girl frequently has to be told to close her legs however. . .
Michelle - no. it was in the ventilation. an isolated thing.
Michelle - when i taught 1st grade, one of my boys told another that he wanted to have s e x with one of my girls
Michelle - and I found out from the girl's mom
eilene - it's too early in the year for this!!!
eilene - It's supposed to all happen in Spring... not September
brad - true story, had a mom come up in the school looking for her son to pick up today. she couldn't find him, and she started yelling and screaming about a "whtie vendetta" NO LIE.
brad - She had a police car come and everything.
Michelle - what was the vendetta supposedly about?
Michelle - you were hiding her son?
brad - who knows? I think she was crazy.
brad - I guess she thought we sent her son off into the wild blue yonder because she was pointing fingers down the hall,threatening lawsuits and prosecutions and a white vendetta
brad - We were all looking for him. We kept saying, "Maybe he walked home. Maybe he walked home." Guess where they found him? Home. He had walked."
brad - That's some vendetta huh?
Michelle - yeah. you made him do it.
Michelle - hoping he'd get kidnapped or shot on the way
eilene - the PE teacher told us how there was a discrimination suit filed against a school in Gary, IN. Apparently parents thougth that their children were being picked on because of their race (African American) and that too many of them were getting suspensions. The school's student population is 95% A/A...
Alta Rose / 2 - You don't get paid enough to deal with that garbage, do you?
brad - LOL, walk the plank you scurvy first grader!! ARRGGH
Michelle - lol, brad
brad - LOL, Eilene, that sounds like my district. Don't even say I discriminate. There's not been a white face in my classroom.
brad - to compare
brad - it's like kim said, alta. With all the crappy paperwork coming down from on top and all the mis--parented half-got kids coming from the neighborhood, who has time to teach?
Michelle - wait a minute! I got it! the one white person in the room rules over all the non-whites. that person gets to choose what happens. never gets punished.....wow, brad. see, very discriminatory.
Alta Rose / 2 - No kidding.
Alta Rose / 2 - No kidding.
eilene - hmm.... let me just pull that extra time right out of my butt....
Alta Rose / 2 - Lol, Eilene.
brad - I'm very evil, I've said it before. I do this because i hate young black children
eilene - shame on you brad
Alta Rose / 2 - I'm very lucky where I am. Very supportive parents, and good families. But I do hate the paperwork.
eilene - had Open House last night, and picture day today... I was looking oh so springlike fresh I must say
brad - Why do I have to document specific academic and social/emotional strategies I'm going to use for those kids not passing the test by ten points (and do the same for not passing by 20 points)? How does that help?
Michelle - I'm lucky in that even though my kids are low-SES, the parents generally are supportive.
Michelle - we had Goal-Setting conferences last night, eilene
brad - The parents, so far, for me have been supportive. distant, but suppportive.
Alta Rose / 2 - We don't have to do anything like that. But I am tired of the IPPs for special needs kids that take hours to write.
eilene - that's a good way of stating it brad. distant but supportive
Michelle - we have pictures on Wednesday, just before I get to tell all the teachers how their Lesson Plans should look (you missed that conversation)
eilene - oh, I'm glad I did... Because we have a very structured LP procedure... (ack!)
brad - Well, they've got your back when it comes to calling home usually (which is a problem, I hear, in ritzy suburbs) but they just don't volunteer.
brad - what's goal-setting conference?
eilene - brad's turning ghetto on us "got your back"
Michelle - it's a waste of time, brad
brad - it's my environs. you're just feeling salfty cause you're not AUOI
Alta Rose / 2 - AUOI?
eilene - I'm not feeling salti, miho
brad - LOL I'm Eminem
Michelle - the idea is, we are supposed to have the kids set goals that they will accomplish this year. We, my team and I, changed it so we are giving the same goals to everyone. we held the parent meetings instead to tell about the MOT strategies and our goals for the kids to be able to use them
eilene - hmm, can't spell, either
brad - you're right. sounds like waste of time
Michelle - mijo? you calling him your son?
brad - maman
eilene - it's also a term of endearment
Michelle - m'hijo, actually
Michelle - sure, if he's your son
Michelle - or like your son
eilene - no, I get called miha all the time
eilene - I can call him chico
brad - Hey don't be a player hater Michelle. Feel the love. Me and Eilene, we's tight
Michelle - hehe
eilene - that's it brad, you're Chico now
Michelle - player hater? ok, ok.
brad - so I'm Freddie Prinze?
Michelle - whatever
Michelle - who's da man?
eilene - If you finna wannabe
brad - wasn't Eddie Albertson the man?
eilene - that's all the ghetto-speak I know
Michelle - alta, are you following this?
eilene - have no clue
brad - alta's sleepign
Alta Rose / 2 - Sorta.
Michelle - teach me some Canadian.
brad - she could chip in with some Canada style gangsta love
Michelle - I already know "holy" and "eh"
Michelle - and "canadian bacon"
Alta Rose / 2 - I remember the term "miho" from "LaBamba" movie!
eilene - cooo lo coo coo coo coo coo coo (McK. Bros. song)
Alta Rose / 2 - Lol!
Michelle - m'hijo...m'hija. it's all good
brad - eh?
eilene - hehe, now brad's out of the loop
Alta Rose / 2 - Don't tell me you guys never say "eh?"
Michelle - I do. but I've spent time in BC
brad - Alta Rose, my best girl friend in high school always wrote that in her notes. Eh?
Alta Rose / 2 - Whereabouts in BC, Michelle?
Michelle - it's not an American thing, though
Michelle - yeah, brad, but we don't normally SAY it
eilene - I don't, only when I say, You're a hoser, eh?
Michelle - Mostly Vancouver
brad - Hoser LOL, I haven't heard that in a while
Michelle - what's a hoser?
Alta Rose / 2 - I went to university in Victoria.
eilene - now first we put the mouse eh, in this beer bottle. And then we get all the beer we want, eh?
eilene - I have to see that movie now!!
Michelle - Victoria's nice. My sister lived on Widbey Island, so it's not too far away.
Alta Rose / 2 - I never heard hoser until what's their names on shoot, can't think of the channel now. Big White North.
eilene - Great White North
eilene - Bob and Doug McKenzie
eilene - The Beer Hunter
Michelle - i have no clue
Alta Rose / 2 - That's them. They coined the term "hoser" Michelle.
brad - Okay, I really need to go. Someone clear up this hoser mystery
Michelle - they hunt beer? can they find me more wine?
eilene - and the term "knob." as in, "I didn't do it, you knob"
eilene - hoser... some one of the wanking kind
Michelle - yeah, it really is getting late for you, eh brad?
brad - I sent a student to the office last year for telling a girl to "slob on his knob"
Michelle - I know "knob" it's common here
eilene - oh, that's gross!!
Alta Rose / 2 - Yuck.
Michelle - never heard that one brad. OH really has some originalss
Michelle - i'm slurring!
brad - I usually ignore language, but there had been problems between this boy and this girl before and I had warned him once. That can be construed as sexual harassment if I don't send it to highest level
eilene - can't people just say "this" anymore... Like Slob on this! it sounds more emphatic
brad - chew on this?
brad - I always say that now, "Well, chew on this. . ."
eilene - exactly!!
Michelle - when i was in 4th/5th grade...saying "do it" would just get us all going..."you said 'do it'" !!!
Michelle - she said she's "doing it"
eilene - hehehe, you said do it
eilene - how naive were we?
brad - Here's the diff in where we grew up I guess, When I was in the same grade, we were talking about "bumping beds behind the dumpster" LOL, we so didn't know what we were saying.
brad - We did, but we didn't. bumping beds?
eilene - thank you.. that got me totally confused
Michelle - where i grew up, we knew what we were talking about. It was sad
eilene - i didn't... I was sheltered.. Catholic school girl and all
brad - That's what I mean. we knew what we were talking about but why did we say "bumping beds?"
Michelle - o r g y?
Michelle - i don't know
brad - shoot, I know how you Catholic girls can be. Hey! Hallelu, hallelu, hallelujah!
Michelle - all i knew about catholic school was from Aerosmith videos. then SNL
eilene - i don't know what you're talking about, brad...*whistles innocently and looks away*
brad - LOL, Michelle, you were Cryin' when I met ya
Alta Rose / 2 - Lol!
eilene - There were three young ladies in the school gym locker and I noticed they was looking at me...
Michelle - I see these girls wearing their plaid skirts and just crack up
Michelle - kinda like prison buddies?
brad - I remember giggling with my brother and his friend. I must've been 7th, they were in 4th(?) about "bush"
Michelle - did you have the plaid skirts, eilene?
eilene - hey, I had to wear plaid skirts
Michelle - what's with those skirts, anyway/
eilene - in grade school I had plaid skirts, in high school it was solid
eilene - I don't know..
Michelle - oh...a rite of passage...the Solid skirt. Little girls no longer
eilene - just different I guess
brad - And "hair pie" from Revenge of the Nerds
eilene - no, but they made us wear our skirts knee length (in highschool) and our socks all the way up
brad - and Long Duck Dong from 16 Candles
Michelle - never could wear pants, all through your school years, eilene?
eilene - Dong? Where is my automobile?
eilene - only courderoys under the skirt in grade school... pants in highschool forget it
Michelle - i remember, we couldn't wear shorts at all, until I was in 8th or 9th grade, they finally changed the rule. kids today are so lucky
brad - ok, sleep
Michelle - skirt and pants together, eilene? eww
eilene - Freshman year: brown skirt, green blouse, brown socks, brown blazer... Sophmore same except blouse was yellow
Michelle - what time is it? after 2 am, brad?
Alta Rose / 2 - I would never have worn shorts to school. I didn't want the boys to see my "fat legs!" Lol.
Michelle - what time is it in alberta?
eilene - oh, brad, you should just stay up
brad - nite;yes on time;yuk on outfit
Alta Rose / 2 - It's 12:14 by my computer.
Michelle - oh, only an hour ahead of me.
eilene - stay up brad!! I can regale you with all my wonderful uniform stories
Michelle - goodnight brad
eilene - (night, brad)
Michelle - I agree...double yuck on outfit, eilene
eilene - it was terrible.. trust me... I believe they have gotten better (I hope)
Alta Rose / 2 - Yeah, I'm fading, too. Take Care, you guys. Talk to you soon!
eilene - night, Alta Rose!
Michelle - ok. i guess it's time to call it a night.
Alta Rose / 2 - Night!
eilene - okay, I'll see you around, guys!

 
 

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