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Mary/PA - Good evening. Welcome to tonight's Reading Recovery Meeting here at Teachers.Net.
Mary/PA - Hi Parker! Good evening. Welcome to tonight's Reading Recovery Meeting here at Teachers.Net.
Mary/PA - Are you a RRT?
Parker - Hi, Mary. I thought I was all alone.
Parker - Yes, I'm an RRT
Mary/PA - I hope others show up tonight
Parker - I haven't been here in awhile.
Mary/PA - How are your lessons going? Do you have any particular concerns?
Parker - My situation has changed. RR is being phased out in my building.
Parker - Right now, I only have one student. He just came to the school a few weeks ago. We are roaming.
Mary/PA - That's a shame. I'm afraid that's going to be happening more across the country. Money is so tight for everyone these days.
Parker - My position has changed and I only have time to see one child. The rest of the day I teach regular classes.
Mary/PA - What do you do with the rest of your day?
Parker - The funny thing is that our school is so small, we are still fully implemented.
Mary/PA - Oh, how do you work that out, time wise?
Mary/PA - Hi Gigi
Gigi/MO - Hey, there Mary and Parker!!
Parker - I am really going to miss RR. It always gives me such a lift to see those little ones begin to pull it all together,
Mary/PA - Gigi, is your friend going to be able to be here this evening?
Parker - Hi Gigi
Gigi/MO - Do you mean Karen that I go to Continuing Contact class with?
Mary/PA - I fear that we may not have RR next year.
Parker - How are things going for you Mary
Parker - Oh, no, Mary. What will you do?
Mary/PA - Yes, I wasn't sure of her name. I thought it was Karen, but thought I may be wrong.
Gigi/MO - What will both of you be doing if you aren't doing RR?
hana - hi.....currently I'm not doing RR, but did it for 7 years....mind if I sit and listen?
Mary/PA - I have no idea. I'd like to go back into the first grade, but it's all up to the admin.
Gigi/MO - I talked to her earlier this evening and she said she wasn't feeling too well and might just go to bed!!
Parker - I'll be in a regular class. Don't really know what grade level yet. 1,2 or 3 I guess.
Mary/PA - We don't mind hana! We're happy to have you here.
hana - thank you!
Gigi/MO - hana--What are you teaching now?
hana - luckily for my district (Long Beach, California) RR has been and continues to be strong and WILL NOT be cut next year
hana - good news for the RR teachers at my school
Gigi/MO - I have a niece named Hannah so I really like that name!!
Mary/PA - Our TL's school district dropped RR for next year. I'm afraid there will be a ripple down effect
hana - Gigi, I went back to first grade...actually I teach an intensive literacy class....all first graders retained from last year
Mary/PA - haha, I bet you can accomplish a lot with you kids.
Gigi/MO - Wow, hana!! You have your work cut out for you!! How many are in your class??
hana - if you do have to go back to the classroom, think about all the wonderful things you have to offer! I feel like I'm such a stronger teacher now
hana - Gigi, I have 20.......14 first and the remaining went on to 2nd but just by a hair...technically still working at first grade level
hana - Parker, where do you teach?
Gigi/MO - Mary--Sorry to here that about YOUR TL!! What is SHE going to do?
Mary/PA - Oh, I don't mind going back to first grade. In fact, I'd love it. My fear is that they'll put me in 5th or 6th grade soc. studies or something like that. I'd be bored out of my mind!!
Parker - In NC
hana - Mary, oh no...hope that doesn't happen!
Mary/PA - I don't know what she is going to do. I've been hearing a lot of rumors but don't know anything for sure. It's a real shame, she is so very good!
Parker - LOL Mary, those were exactly my thoughts when I was switched mid-year, no 5th-6th social studies.
Anla - Hi, I teach LD. Want to learn about rr
Mary/PA - Anla, what do you know so far about RR?
Parker - What level Anla? I was an LD teacher for years.
hana - Parker, are you currently doing RR?
Anla - Intensive reading therapy?
Parker - Yes, hana, but on a limited basis. I'm working with just one student now.
Parker - Yes, hana, but on a limited basis. I'm working with just one student now.
Parker - Yes, hana, but on a limited basis. I'm working with just one student now.
Gigi/MO - hana-So will the students in your class just go on to 2nd grade next year or will they be left to sink or swim in 3rd grade??
hana - Parker, what do you do the rest of the day?
Parker - Sorry, sorry , cat on keyboard.
Mary/PA - Cat's just love to keyboard
Parker - I teach 3rd grade language arts and social studies, and 8th grade language arts.
hana - Gigi, the very sad part is that they will sink in 3rd grade....I am going to talk to my Principal and make sure this doesn't happen again.....those little 2nd graders would have been better off retained, IMO
hana - there is one 2nd grader that I refuse to pass...she is SO far behind..parents are really supportive in me keeping her another year
hana - my children are finished with dinner...time for me to head out
hana - thanks for including my in your chat
Gigi/MO - hana--So your WHOLE class will go on to 3rd grade?
hana - have a good evening
Parker - Good night hana.
Gigi/MO - bye hana!! Come back again!! I'm interested with how your class does by the end of the year!!
hana - Gigi, no....14 will go to 2nd...but the other 6 (except 1) will need to go on to 3rd......I blame the teachers from last year who passed them
Mary/PA - Hi tyylee
Gigi/MO - Hello, tyylee!!
Parker - Anla, are you still here?
tyylee - hello all!
Anla - Just listening.
Parker - Hi tyylee
Gigi/MO - So really you have a combination 1st and 2nd!?! Sorry to keep asking questions!!
Parker - Anla, do you teach primary students?
Anla - Teach grades 4, 5, 6.
Gigi/MO - Anla--I taught elem. LD my first 2 years of teaching (grades 1-6) at a VERY small school!! I only had 5 students my first year!!
Mary/PA - Anla, here are a couple of links for you. RR is explained here - http://www.readingrecovery.org/sections/reading/index.asp and here http://connwww.iu5.org/cvelem/RR/index.html
Anla - Have brought them up some this year, Wonder if rr will help.
Parker - Anla, RR requires a year of training. You do RR while you learn RR. It is very intense year, but well worth it. RR is for the lowest achieving 1st graders.
Mary/PA - oh, here's the second one again http://connwww.iu5.org/cvelem/RR/index.html
Anla - Thanks, I'll check them out.
Mary/PA - Anla, RR is mostly about teaching the kids to use good reading strategies
Mary/PA - We have a great advantage of having one student at a time so we can zero in on the particular needs of each student.
Mary/PA - Did everyone fall asleep
Anla - I am publishing a book, a commonsense multi-sensory decoding method. But I always want to know more...
tyylee - We teach the RR strategies to small literacy groups and they are beneficial to all children. In groups you can't address every need of every child but you can teach them strategic reading.
Mary/PA - By decoding, what do you mean?
Gigi/MO - I'm back!! I went out to my car to get Marie Clay's book, Change Over Time!!
Anla - Students get hung up when they cant decode words. So I help them decode words multisensorily.
Mary/PA - Oh Gigi, I have mine here too
Anla - Is that the text for ff?
Anla - I mean rr.
tyylee - Anla, have you heard of or trained in Tucker signing strategies? We are using it and it does wonders for some children. It adds movement to the sounds of the language.
Gigi/MO - Mary--Karen told me some helpful hints about Predictions of Progress!! She uses the chart on pages 84 and 85 to help see what the kids need to know and do!! Those pages help her in writing her POP's!!
Mary/PA - Not exactly, but all of Marie's texts are very helpful to us.
Anla - I know her. I met her after the local paper did an article about my method and hers.
Parker - Oh, Gigi, just dug mine out too. Those pages would be a good start. Thanks for the reminder.
Anla - Mine is very similar. Only more straight alphabet-based.
Mary/PA - Oh yes, those are good! I have so many charts of strategies...I use them all and still struggle with POPs
Gigi/MO - Please note that on the side of the pages it says "These possible changes from simple to complex processing should NOT be seen as stages."!! I think they can be helpful to us though!!
Anla - Can I get the rr books to read without going thru training, etc?
Gigi/MO - Mary and I discussed Predictions last time and wanted some help on how to do them and I heard about these pages from one of my RR teacher friends so thought I'd share it!!
Mary/PA - Yes Anla, you can get them at Amazon and Hienemann
Gigi/MO - Mary--I also checked our predictions again and we DON'T predict how many weeks a child will be in the RR program!! We do say what level we want them at by the end of their program but NOT the weeks they will be in!! I think that would be TOO hard!!
Mary/PA - The form we use I think is taken right from the GB.
Gigi/MO - Anla--Your approach/program sounds very interesting and ACTIVE!!
Mary/PA - I don't know why we need to do it, I guess it's to make us really think about the child, but it's so difficult to predict!
Mary/PA - Hi Nick
Gigi/MO - Mary--I'm not sure where we got ours!! I just use what we were given!!
Anla - 1stbooks.com is publishing it this spring. The Sounds of Words, Anita Landoll. You can read about it there if you want.
Gigi/MO - Anla-Do you have a website about your program?
Anla - Guess I'd better do a website soon. But for now, there is info at 1st books.com.
Mary/PA - tyylee must have had some trouble
Gigi/MO - Ok!! Thanks, Anla!!
Mary/PA - So Gigi, how are your students doing? Mine have been sick! We've been missing a lot of lessons. I was even sick! I was out last Thur. and Fri.
Mary/PA - But they've been making very good progress in spite of the absences
Mary/PA - I have one little girl who isn't very flexible with her thinking. She gets an idea in her mind about what the text should say and struggles at times trying to make the text say what she thinks it should.
Gigi/MO - OH, yuck!! We had sickness very badly back in Jan./Feb.!! Many school districts were OUT of school for 1-3 days!! I didn't ever get sick but some of my kids were!! I'm feeling pretty good about my kids!! I have them on levels 11-13 and they have read about level 14, I think, on the Rigby Benchmark Series that they use in the classrooms!!
Parker - My little fellow is like that too, Mary. He spent most of yesterday's roaming sessions telling me what he thought the author should have written.
Mary/PA - That's great, Gigi! You should be getting them out pretty soon then.
Mary/PA - LOL, Doesn't that just make you want to laugh or cry
Parker - I bit my tongue. Today, I let him start writing his own book, since he seems to know so much about it. LOL
Mary/PA - The boy I have that came in at level B in Jan. is now at a 6. He has missed a lot of school. His mom lets him stay up late and then he won't get up for school.
Anla - Have you ever had little ones to say their head hurt when they have to actually read the words? Wild...
Parker - Maybe, when he finishes it, I'll read it the way "I" think the author should have written it and see what he has to say about that!
Mary/PA - That would be interesting, Parker. I wonder if he'd notice.
Mary/PA - If he does it would be a very good learning experience.
Mary/PA - Well folks, I have to go. I have things I must do before I hit the hay!
Gigi/MO - OK--I have a question!! My little guy that I have on a level 13, read the book "Candlelight" (PM Rigby book)!! During his running record yesterday, he read the word candle every time in the book (about 7-8 times) and then on one of the last pages he acted like that he had never seen the word before!! How can that happen?? AND THEN HE DID THE SAME THING TODAY during fam. reading on the SAME book!!
Parker - Oh, I'm sure he'll notice Mary.
Mary/PA - Thanks for coming this evening.
Mary/PA - Anla, I'll be checking out your book. Maybe you can come back sometime and we can talk about it.
Parker - I must go too, have a nice evening everyone.
Anla - Thanks. Enjoyed it
Mary/PA - Gigi, my guess is that throughout the book he was searching S except on that last time when for some reason he had to really look at the word. He probably hadn't done that before.
Gigi/MO - OK--Good night everyone!! If you have any pointers on how they can read a word in one spot and then not have a clue about it later in the book and even on the same page--LET ME KNOW!!
Mary/PA - I've had the same type of thing happen. When it does, I take them to the board with ML to make the word so they can really see it.
Anla - Night everyone.
Gigi/MO - Thanks, Mary!! He is VERY visual so that is probably it!!
Mary/PA - Well, good night everyone
Gigi/MO - He even "sounds out" known words--had, dad but I think we are getting the b/d confusion removed somewhat!!
Gigi/MO - Thanks, Mary and everyone else!! See you next time!!
Gigi/MO - Anla--I'll be checking out your book also!!
Anla - When is next time
Gigi/MO - We meet every other Monday night, I think!! But to be sure, check the schedule on this website!! Do you know how to do that??
Anla - Check on the main schedule
Gigi/MO - I think there is a meeting room schedule and it will be on that!!
Anla - OK, thanks.
Gigi/MO - I feel honored to have met an author on here tonight!! Glad you came to see us!! Come back!!
Anla - Just trying to help our struggling readers.
Anla - As inexpensively and effectively as possible. Thanks.
Gigi/MO - I know what you mean!! So are we!! Better go for now!! Talk to you later!!
Anla - Nite.
