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Bluette - good evening Stanley
Stanley - Greetings, Blue!
Bluette - good news, I finally signed up to take NYState cert exam
Stanley - We're off to a late start tonight, aren't we? [Don't recollect having seen it this vacant @ the start...]
Bluette - ofcourse there are lots of other hoops to jump through as well, but it is a good start, and $150.00 total cost for 2 exams and 2 books
Bluette - have you been busy subbing?
Stanley - CONGRATS!!Will that then allow you to become contracted?
Bluette - no, just allow me more chances for long term subs etc, have to student teach, take lots of grad classes etc
Stanley - Yes, every day... & you?? [With luck I'll only have off on Good Friday for "Spring Break."]
Ksub - Hello
Bluette - almost every day there is school I am there
Bluette - hi Ksub
Stanley - Howdy, Ksub!!
Bluette - where and what do you sub Ksub?
Stanley - I've a VERY difficult crew of G-4s all this wk. They're known for being **VERY** challenging for Subs.
Ksub - I am from Kentucky
Bluette - I still sub almost every grade and subject, getting so much practical experience
Ksub - This is going to take some practice, I haven't had a computer very long
Bluette - hi ya Magoo, hoping you would be here tonight
Magoo - My stupid computer is acting up again, so heaven only knows how long I'll be able to chat.........took me nearly 20 min. to get in here.......
Stanley - Blue, is the rate for long terms MUCH higher? [Here it is only something like 12 or 13% more on the average -- hardly worth the additional work purely on THAT basis... ]
Magoo - Hey, Ksub, I had an uncle who lived in Ky......Hopkinsville......
Magoo - Hiya, Blu, Stanley (how many eyes tonight?)
Ksub - I sub K-2.
Ksub - Hopkinsville, that's not too far from where I live.
Stanley - Magoo, how goes it?
Bluette - I am too old to start teaching as a regular classroom teacher, in 10 years I will be in a rocking chair on the porch
Magoo - I sub K-6, but my favorite is 4th. How long you been at it, Ksub??
Magoo - Blu, may I join you?? I am already practicing.....I am usually in a rocker at night, in front of Andy Griffith reruns or a movie!!
Ksub - not long, I've subbed maybe 25 days since last fall
Stanley - Magoo, I've not posted on the Board re my eye, because I've still some questions. However, I've been working with BOTH eyes for a couple of wks now!!
Bluette - cert teachers get preference over non-cert, we can only teach 40 days a year, a rule ignored due to crisis ofcourse
Magoo - Ksub, my uncle was a lawyer, juv. court judge, Mason, in Hopkinsville.......
Bluette - congrats Stanley on having your eye unpatched
Magoo - Oh, Stanley, that is wonderful!!! No more walking into walls, huh??
Ksub - Where are all of you from, I guess you get tired of being asked that question
Magoo - I think I've subbed about 85 days this year. Feels like it, anyway.
Bluette - monocular vision is not all its touted for, is it?
Stanley - Blue, I'm soon to be 55, & **HOPING** for a class in L.A. next yr. Now, you're not older than I, are ya'?
Magoo - Ksub, I was born in Iowa, grew up in St. Louis, but have lived in eastern Washington for the past 23 years.
Bluette - yep, just a bit, so by the time I get cert, who knows how old I will be then
Magoo - Stanley, you are justakid.........
Magoo - I hit 59 in a month........doesn't seem possible.......
Magoo - ***sigh*** hubby says dinner is ready........I'll try to get back before 7 (PST)
Bluette - Ksub, I am in NYState, near Syracuse
Ksub - I really enjoy reading your posts on the sub board. I've learned a lot from all of you. Thanks.
Stanley - My new specs are trifocals with progressive lenses, & they drive me **NUTS** here @ the 'puter. So, I use the patched ones whenever I'm keyboarding @ home...
Bluette - don't know how I ever lived through my first few months, hadn't found this board yet
~cheerz~ - how's everyone tonight?
Stanley - Of course, **EVERYONE** on the board **KNOWS** I'm not "progressive!" [ROTFLMAO!!]
Bluette - doing great cheerz
Ksub - I really love subbing, how about the rest of you?
~cheerz~ - i almost forgot that this was tonight
Stanley - cheerz, GREETINGS! Do you sub?
Ksub - Hi cheerz
~cheerz~ - i love it, especially since i'm a full time sub now...ahhhh....
Bluette - I enjoy the variey, learning so much as I go along
~cheerz~ - bluette, i think you learn much more from subbing than student teaching
Bluette - wish I had a full time job
~cheerz~ - you get to experience a different classroom everyday, see what you like and don't like...it's a great learning experience
Stanley - Ksub, this wk WILL be frustrating/trying, but even taking THAT into consideration, I'm **VERY** happy helping out as a Sub!
~cheerz~ - i'm a full time roving sub...i go to the same school everyday and they put me where they need me...but at least i know i'm working for sure everyday
Bluette - practice a lot of theories on the classes i teach
Ksub - Do any of you take morning calls, I really don't like them, but I guess there's no way around them.
~cheerz~ - like what blue?
~cheerz~ - i used to take them before i got this postion, ksub...i hated them!!!
Ksub - Stanley, what grades do you sub?
Bluette - I keep reading about educ. and trying what I have learned
Stanley - cheerz, I wind up working @ one school about 2/3 of the time, so I understand your situation. [I frequently get shifted around @ that site, much like you.]
~cheerz~ - that's great, blue...how's it working for you?
~cheerz~ - stanley, i'll be at the same school everyday now until the end of the year...i love it though
Ksub - cheerz, that's great that you have a full time job. Do you have insurance benefits too?
Bluette - I don't like those calls, mostly get booked ahead, work at one HS a lot
~cheerz~ - unfortunately not, ksub...wish i did...
Stanley - Ksub, are you in a computerized district? If so, call in proactively so that you get as many jobs as possible in advance. [BTW, I'm primarily K-6 self-contained, though I occasionally do MS.]
Bluette - do you get ins Stanley?
~cheerz~ - it's great too because the kids don't treat me like a sub, they are so used to seeing me everyday...
Bluette - teachers are friendlier now that I am there so much
~cheerz~ - do you guys have anything like the Pennsylvania ACT 48 in your states?
Ksub - no, we have a human subcaller.
Stanley - Blue, I have to self insure. And you??
Bluette - ditto
Bluette - own ins, human sub finders
Bluette - hi ms btl
Ksub - I would not be able to sub if my husband didn't have a good job with insurance benefits.
Stanley - cheerz, I ACT like I "belong" wherever I go -- only @ THIS site it's a 2 way street!
Miss BTL - hi everyone
Bluette - are you certified, Ksub
~cheerz~ - ksub, i'm single and i keep trying to talk my boyfriend into marrying me so i can be on his benefits...lol
Ksub - Hi Miss BTL
~cheerz~ - hiya miss btl
Stanley - Good evening, Miss BTL!
Ksub - No, I have an emergency certification to sub.
Miss BTL - Stanley...lovely attitude...reminds me of a line from Funny Girl, though
Bluette - I would like to get temp or emergency cert
Ksub - Here in Kentucky, you have to have 64 college hours and at least a 2.5 to sub
Miss BTL - Barbra is bragging how Nicki is soooo sophisticated he fits in every place he goes and her mom say "a sponge fits in every place"
Bluette - really, here it is a 4 yr degree,, thats all
Miss BTL - but I know what you mean....Might as well act as if you belong, and to heck with how they treat you.
Stanley - Did any of you read the strand that was removed Sun AM from the SubBoard? If so, do you thing T.Net "handled" it "properly?"
Miss BTL - I saw most of the strand to which you refer.
Bluette - oh, Stanley, this is really getting bad
Miss BTL - I agree with the poster who said "Let's just drop it."
~cheerz~ - no stanley, what was it?
Bluette - I am sorry that this has happened
Ksub - Bluette, are you certified?
Bluette - no, just a 4 yr degree, 2nd year as a sub
Miss BTL - I find myself getting into a chatboard zone sometimes...responding to almost every post....some are worth skipping, though.
~cheerz~ - i have no idea what you are talking about
Stanley - Blue, please elaborate, because I don't think I'm following you...
Miss BTL - And there was one from yesterday (Ann C??) asking for advice for her first grade today...the next post said something like "Too late guys"
Miss BTL - cheerz, stanley is talking about a strand magoo started on appropriate school dress
Ksub - I think there has been someone posting disgusting things about kids, is that right?
~cheerz~ - oh, thanks miss btl
Miss BTL - cheerz...one poster replied something inappropriate (in my opinion) about pre-teens and sexuality.
Stanley - cheerz, Some of us were discussing the post by an anonymous poster about childhood sexual practices. WE said nothing, but the entire strand was removed...?!?
~cheerz~ - stanley, wow!!!
Stanley - Nandita, do I know you from San Diego?
Ksub - Bluette, are you trying to get a full time teaching job?
Nandita - Hi guys. I haven't been here in a long time. Yeah Stanley, it's me. I am in Fresno now.
Miss BTL - Jill pointed out that the original strand (which sounded like it was written by Nabokov) was still intact, but the strand stating how this is inappropriate discussion for the board was removed....and yes, stanley, I agree, t-net dropped the ball on that one
Ruff - Hi Gang
Nandita - How are you? do you have a new e-mail. I miss San Diego terribly.
Bluette - don't know Ksub, I may not last long enough, getting older by the minute
Ksub - Hi Ruff
Miss BTL - ((((ruff)))))
Bluette - hi Ruff, glad you joined us
Ruff - Every one been busy?
~cheerz~ - well everyone, i gotta run..it's been nice talking to you all!
Stanley - The strange, STRANGE thing is that the ORIGINAL "objectionable" post still remains!?! Personally, I think **SOMEONE** should clarify what's goin' on!
Miss BTL - cheers, cheerz
Ksub - I didn't get called this morning. Maybe tomorrow I hope.
~cheerz~ - goodnight (((((((((((((friends))))))))))))))
Stanley - Nandita, did I hear you're in Fresno?
Miss BTL - I thought you were one of the "in the know" folk, stanley...haven't you e-mailed t-net by now on this?
Magoo - I'm baaack........
Ruff - Hi Magoo and welcome
Bluette - Ruff, I sub almost every day, not bad for my second year
Miss BTL - wb magoo
Miss BTL - shhhh! quit talking about magoo everyone...she's back
Nandita - yes. I am not working right now. My daughter is 16 months old. I will start in the fall.
Ruff - That's great Bluette...I do 3 days a week.
Bluette - join in Magoo, we are discussing the inappropriate dress posts
Ksub - Hi Magoo
Kristi - Anyone now a good website to get lesson plans?
Miss BTL - we are??? dang...I thought we let that drop....ah well...guess i'll just sit and munch a snickerdoodle
Magoo - 'inappropriate dress' ????? You mean I can't wear my black leather Capri pants anymore??
Miss BTL - there are several kristi, what topic?
Magoo - ***sniff, sniff, sniff***
Miss BTL - Ann Margret, eat yer heart out
Stanley - For all the rest of ya', I learned to know Nandita thru our Visiting Ts Assn in San Diego. How was your yr @ you know where? Do you know last yr they had the lowest API in the whole county??
Magoo - ...could've sworn I smelled a snickerdoodle...
Nandita - There are a lot of sites. ERIC has many lesson plans. Try it out.
Bluette - what should teachers wear, I lkie my "tunnel skirts" in the winter, keep me warm
Magoo - Stanley, what is API??
Ksub - I've sworn off of snickerdoodles..I'm on a diet
Ruff - Interesting that school rules were no short halter tops so now they wear long tops with no waist jeans.
Magoo - I wear pants, a shirt, and sneakers every day. I also wear the most wonderful socks--Hanes' "softest socks", they are SO comfy and they come in colors.
Bluette - have to revise those rules every day
Magoo - ***beating Ksub over the head with a large carrot*** DO NOT USE THE 'D' WORD!
Ksub - I hate carrots
Ruff - Oh! you are talking about teacher dress requirement.
Stanley - Miss BTL, I was thinking perhaps it was because I posted a link to "someone's" web site. However, then just MY post should have been bumped, right? Plus, I reposted that info on the original strand, then linked to it.
Nandita - Yeah Stanley. I think my class was the lowest. I have never been at a school that had absolutely no backing for teachers in the way of discipline.
Bluette - I tried not to be bad but ate some birthday cake in Teachers room this morning
Ksub - If I ate in the school lunch room every time I couldn't get in the door
Magoo - Ksub, you are NOT on a 'diet', you are on a 'food plan'..........less self-defeating
Stanley - Magoo, "API" is the ranking CA gives its schools based upon standardized testing.
Ksub - Thank you Magoo, I feel so much better.
Miss BTL - It's hard to say why, stanley. In a way, I'm glad. I recall a few weeks ago how every other strand was a waste of time to read practically...you know the ones ...the ones that sent jan packing
Bluette - no the original convesation was on students dressed provocatively
Magoo - Ah, California again......they just can't get their stuff together, can they? Neither can Washington, with that stupid WASL
Miss BTL - You and I are of like minds on that Magoo
Nandita - Have any of you had a class of your own? I have and I think I like subbing best. What do all of you think?
Magoo - I sent a girl to the office just last week to change her shirt.........she is a slut-in-progress
Stanley - Nandita, how long do most of those kids have to ride the bus? Also, this past July they posted 4 job openings. Can you believe not **ONE** soul bid???
Miss BTL - Subbing is the best, Nan, I agree. Now if we could just get paid more....
Ruff - Nandita...I taught full time for 17 years.
Bluette - I enjoy subbing but feel insecure without a regular job every day
Ksub - I love subbing, just hate those morning calls, and the stupid question "who are you today"?
Miss BTL - I'm proud of you magoo. I don't think I'd have noticed. I see so many li'l brittney spears wanna be's
Rena - I avoid the teachers room at any cost
Magoo - I am in my 8th year of subbing and I love it. FAR less pressure than if I had my own room. Of course, a person could not survive on sub pay.
Miss BTL - (((ksub))) YES ~!!! HOW are you is soooo much nicer.
Ruff - The load on full time teachers today is more than it was 20 years ago. I am amazed many stick it out.
Nandita - We had a school that required a uniform. I had the hardest time getting the students to concentrate in class let alone wear appropriate dress. Thanks Miss BTL.
Miss BTL - welcome, paul
Bluette - I feel like the dress code police, always telling the admin or other teachers
Stanley - Nandita, a friend [not contracted @ Central] subbed next to you with your G-6s. He was impressed with your control!
paul-dfw-tx - greetings everybody
Ksub - I think uniforms would be a good thing for kids
Miss BTL - good for you bluette....A sub SHOULD run a tight ship
Nandita - Where are you Stanley?
Bluette - hate to be the one but no body else seems to care, I keep pointing it out
Magoo - BTL, she is in 5th grade and loves to strut her stuff, which is out front and perky. Her shirt was obviously brand-new, and it fit like a second skin, and it said, in rainbow shiny letters, "#1 HOTTIE" She walked in at 8:30, 5 min. late, so she could make an entrance.....I sent her to the office immediately, told her to either turn the shirt inside out, put on one from the 'spare' barrel, or call mom to bring her another. Mom brought her another.
Bluette - boys too, references to booze, pot, sex on their shirts
paul-dfw-tx - ksub are uniforms really uniforms...in that they are all the same?
Nandita - I am so glad I don't have to worry about finances. My husband has a good job. So I can concentrate on family.
Ruff - I don't like the idea of uniforms. To much like a military environment or religious school.
Stanley - Nandita, still subbing, though applying in L.A. [Do you know they give LONGEVITY credit for yrs spent subbing?!?]
Miss BTL - The goal of a good dress code is what the business world calls transparency.
Ksub - Well, I wish the schools had more strict dress codes
Bluette - i wore a uniform in Montreal, didn't hurt me any, also had prayers and hymns in school, taught me to respect school
Ruff - Dress codes are good.
Miss BTL - Transparency is having a code or a rule that is soooo obvious, people can't help but to follow it.
Nandita - Good for you Stanley. I have the same email Please e-mail me so we can talk more.
Magoo - I think uniforms would be great. From what I've read, the grades go up and the bad behavior goes down.
Ksub - I was in the military too, did me a world of good. Uniforms didn't kill me either, bluette.
Miss BTL - McDonald's has lots of transparency....stand here...pick a picture...order by the number....fill your drink here....etc.
Nandita - I am for uniforms too. But it has to be enforced by everyone.
Bluette - shirt and pants or skirts, in tan, navy, black
Magoo - I don't like white shirts on kids, tho, that is just advertising for laundry soap
Miss BTL - The problem as I see it, is not the dress code. It's that it lacks transparency....teachers and kids aren't always sure where to draw the line
Bluette - white shirts on Pizza day, ugh
Nandita - White is good. If you want a stain out you just add bleach.
Ksub - Pizza day, ugh
Magoo - skirts, culottes, pants, knee-length shorts, jumpers---teal, hunter green, blue, tan, etc. and tops in rainbow colors.
Miss BTL - I agree, Nan....everyone has to follow the code or it falls apart quickly.
Magoo - I know where to draw the line, but nobody will let me do it
Stanley - When are all of you scheduled for "Spring Break?" Because I'm in several districts, I may only HAVE to be off on Good Friday.
Ruff - I like the students to have the ability to expres themselves with their clothing. A new shirt or sweater etc. for Christmas means more when it isn't a uniform.
Nandita - Rainbow. I like that.
Bluette - boys too, can't stand those slppy off the hips pants
BooBoo - Hey, everybody!
Miss BTL - I'm in one district (I know, I know...with my sad subcaller, I should have added another....) and we are off the week before Easter.
Magoo - Nothing shorter than knee-length, no words of any kind on anything, no skin showing between the neck/arms and knees, nothing skin-tight.
Ksub - Hi BooBoo
Nandita - Hi BooBoo.
BooBoo - First time chatter here
Ruff - I really dislike those droopy pants, but try to teach to the mind and let them wear out the bottoms, I don't have to replace them.
Stanley - Boo Boo, you were a student in my class today, right?
Ksub - I agree with Magoo
Miss BTL - You a substitute teacher, BooBoo?
BooBoo - I wish
Magoo - Where I am, a new shirt for Christmas means a walking ad for beer, etc.
Bluette - remember Naked oed
Bluette - remember Naked oed
Bluette - remember Naked oed
Stanley - Miss BTL, I'll be down to 1 district that wk, so I may well have SEVERAL days when I don't work...
Bluette - remember Naked oed
BooBoo - Well, I was a sub for 2 years, got a perm job last fall, had to quit because of my asthma, so now I'm back on the sub list
Ruff - Many schools have the students involved in setting dress standard and it works well.
Nandita - How many of you teach at what they call difficult schools? I have had my share, but they keep my classroom management skills sharp.
Miss BTL - what state, boo....stan is from cal and magoo and i are in wash.
Bluette - remember Naked Coed shirts--my sons wore them in college
Magoo - There was a 6th grade girl last year, came in wearing a t-shirt that was an ad for 7-Up, which was fine, except the wording on the front said, "Make 7..." and then on the back it said, "...Up yours!" She was told to change it.
Ksub - I will have to be off 2 weeks for spring break
BooBoo - West "By God" Virginia
Miss BTL - I subbed a few years ago at the "alternative" HS...piece of cake
BooBoo - If you want to prepare for t-shirts, check out Spencer's and Gadzooks
Nandita - We are off next week. I wish we had two weeks off.
Stanley - BooBoo, sorry to hear about the asthma! ;-( The first yr of teaching sure ain't good for one's health, is it?
BooBoo - We have trouble with the confed flag on shirts
Miss BTL - at alternative HS, only three or so kids show up (twenty some on roster, but many skip) so it really is one-on-one...the ones who show get a lot out of it and can complete HS in a year or so of concentrated study
Magoo - We are off the first week of April. I get to go to the doc, and clean out the basement, so am anticipating just LOADS of fun........
Bluette - I have been sick a lot this year, bronchial trouble
Miss BTL - is there a school rule against it, booboo?
Magoo - Boo, a friend of mine had to quit teaching because of chalk dust.......
Ksub - Bluette, are you feeling better now?
BooBoo - If it's used strictl as a historical thing, it's doesn't matter, but too many people use it for the wrong reasons
Nandita - If was nice talking to you today. I hope to see you guys next week. Stanley e-mail me at nandkhanna@hotmail.com
Magoo - Blu, would you believe I am STILL coughing up the occasional hairball??
Miss BTL - tah, Nandita...will look for your name on the board...drop by
Bluette - just getting back to normal after about a month, but I still worked ofcourse
BooBoo - The rural kids use it against the urban kids, if you catch my drift
Stanley - Nandita, I'm spending about 2/3 of my time in one of schools that used to send you G-6s, so I suspect you can connect the dots re "difficulty!"But, I DO **LOVE** the site!
Ruff - Just had company come. See ya!
Miss BTL - How do you know if it's historical or not if it's on a t-shirt?
Ksub - Magoo, I think they sell medicine for hairball prevention.
BooBoo - My asthma turned out to be caused by an ongoing sinus infection that I didn't know I had
Magoo - Boo, your drift is caught.........too bad that is still going on
Miss BTL - take care ruff
BooBoo - I go back to the docs on Thursday
Ksub - bye ruff
Miss BTL - agree magoo...catching a bit of drift myself
Magoo - Around here it's the cowboys vs the Indians...........
Bluette - are there native Amer students at your school magoo?
Magoo - BTL, you are over on the west side, yes??
Bluette - we are celebrating cultural diversity this week at hs
BooBoo - Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it...
Bluette - kids have no spirit so probably will not be too interested, have a mandatory assembly
Magoo - Blu, I live 12 miles from the NezPerce rez..............they have a school out there, but there are always a few Indian kids 'in town' also. I find myself gravitating to them, they get a rough deal.
Miss BTL - Around here, the Russians are causing everyone to rethink....ESL used to mean "Every Single Latino" but now there are other "white" immigrants to throw a wrench into old stereotypes.
Stanley - Blue, I've been checking "stats" on various L.A. schools. They **DO** have various ethnic combos THERE!
Magoo - Of course, since my son is Sioux, I am a little prejudiced........
Bluette - I teach in 3 schools that are 25%, 25% and 100% Native
Ksub - Is Kentucky the only state where you don't have to have a 4 year degree to sub?
Bluette - it is different
Miss BTL - goodness no, ksub
Magoo - I wish I lived in a more diverse town.........white bread can be very boring.......very narrow-minded........
BooBoo - I seem to recall that Texas might have the same
Magoo - Ksub, nope, I don't think you need a degree in Idaho, either.........of course, they have just recently accepted the concept of the wheel..........
Stanley - Miss BTL, as near as I can figure L.A. has certain areas with large numbers of Ss whose L1 is Armenian! Blew me away, because we have NOTHING like that 120 mi or so to the South!
Bluette - Russians, Ukranians, Asians of every country, mostly in Syracuse schools, have two new students whose first language is Arabic
BooBoo - Magoo...LOL!!!
Ksub - Not too long ago, someone posted on the message board about "real" subs had a 4 year degree. Made me feel kind of bad. I am a real sub.
Magoo - Oh, Blu, that's wonderful!! Imagine the challenges, the opportunities!!!
Bluette - REAL is real as long as you sub, and enjoy it, and are called back!!
Magoo - I hate it when people ask me, 'why aren't you a real teacher?'
Bluette - thats what I like too Magoo, my town is so white bread, now have some adopted Korean, and Chinese children
BooBoo - This is my first chat b/c I always miss it any other time
Miss BTL - Teaching "diverse" (although not terribly) classes has taught me the importance of language...of using terms we mean instead of terms we are comfy using....um...for example, saying "When the European settlers" instead of "When we...."
Bluette - but my boys were the only jewish children in town
Ksub - It's one thing about a "real" teacher, but a "real" sub??
BooBoo - I subbed 8th grade last week for 3 days
Miss BTL - I don't mind it anymore, Magoo... I just smile and say something cheeky (I'm sure you can imagine the various responses)
Stanley - Ksub, IMO the SubBoard's "pambre" is a TREASURE CHEST of wisdom -- & her degree is in Social Work. Also, **THE** best Sub I know locally has "but" Emergency Certification!!
BooBoo - Talk about some attitude problems; that will change when they head to HS next year
Bluette - just remember my motto, a sub is a hero
Bluette - and on that note, I shall sign off for tonight
Miss BTL - Tossing Booboo a snickerdoodle...way to survive the 8th grade, hon
Miss BTL - night, Blue
Bluette - godnight all
Magoo - We had a kid from Bosnia two years ago....little boy...2nd grade....he knew NO English, and the school did NOTHING, and I mean nothing, for him in that area. I started cutting up tagboard, making bi-lingual lables for everything in school. Got a Bosnian/Eng. dictionary from the book store!! Made the Bosnian in one color, the English in another. That school was wall-paperd in labels!!
BooBoo - How many points is that on Weight Watchers, Miss?
Ksub - Thanks Stanley
Miss BTL - True, stanley....a cert doesn't mean you are capable and no cert doesn't mean you aren't, but just imagine what those capable folk could do with a little ed. education
Stanley - BooBoo, I had something like 6 straight days of G-8 last yr right before they were due to graduate. Guess where THEIR minds were?
BooBoo - We have one HS that's very diverse, prof
BooBoo - Whoops! Professor's kids...
Miss BTL - Magoo...you are a peach....is the Bosnian kid still there...do you get to see him?
Magoo - Well, I must go also. This has been nice, very restful, thanks to all of you! Toodles!!
Miss BTL - tah tah, magoo
Magoo - BTL, nope the family moved after one year, to Seattle area.
Ksub - bye Magoo. goodnight
Magoo - TA!
BooBoo - When I subbed 7th a few weeks ago, I had a student come in and ask if I was Miss Such's sub. I said "no, why do I look like one?"
Miss BTL - well.....good for you for touching his life for the good
Stanley - Miss BTL, the capable folk WOULD improve if they studied & reflected. However, I'm not at ALL sure that's what T.Ed courses encourage... ;-(
BooBoo - Sarcasm is lost on them. I got a weird look for my effort.
Miss BTL - I've had mostly good T. ed courses...one really bad one, but mostly good
BooBoo - My worst TEd class was philosophy. I have never used it.
Miss BTL - Sarcasm is one of the reasons I love subbing in 7th....they get the jokes that fly over the little ones' heads.
Ksub - I would like to go back to college, but we (my husband and I) are putting our son through college. That comes first.
BooBoo - KSub, did you say you were in Kentucky?
Ksub - yes, from Kentucky
Miss BTL - I understand, Ksub....priorities and all, but I hope you don't keep reshelving your dreams.
BooBoo - Are you getting any flooding? I saw where TN got hit.
Stanley - BooBoo, I always like it when the bilingual kids ask me if I speak Spanish. I LUV asking them [in SPANISH] if THEY speak Spanish!Then I procede to tell them that I DON'T speak as well as THEY do!
Ksub - no, thank goodness!
Miss BTL -
BooBoo - We had a little rain here. The eastern panhandle really needs it.
Ksub - I am going to take a Spanish class starting next month. I am looking forward to it
Miss BTL - I want my Spanish to improve. Maybe I should winter in Cancun?
BooBoo - I subbed a spanish class one day during student teaching.
Stanley - Agreed, Miss BTL! I'm so, SO thankful for the **EXCEPTIONAL** education I've had -- particularly early on!
BooBoo - I told them I only knew "Yo quiero Taco Bell" ;-D
Miss BTL - PBS plays "Destinos," a Spanish learning program at five a.m. here, but I'm NEVER up at that time unless I've been out all night and learning Spanish is the LAST thing on my mind.
BooBoo - My French is definitely better.
Stanley - If I were 20-30 yrs younger, I might be tempted to get my Spanish up to credential quality by LIVING in a Spanish speaking country for a spell. But, not now...
BooBoo - Drat! I didn't get called tonight. Guess I will be getting a 5 am wakeup call.
Miss BTL - Have any of you heard negative feedback ....well I think it's negative....saying that you teach better than the teacher or that you know a subject better? I subbed for an Intro to Spanish class and good grief....the flack I got from the teacher when I saw her.....!!!
Stanley - How much French do you know, BooBoo?
BooBoo - No, but I knew my subject better than my middle school superising teacher. I had to explain to her what I was doing all the time.
Miss BTL - Evidently the kids told her that I corrected her spelling and pronunciation mistakes....I was nice about it...REALLY....but the kids took certain glee in saying "Miss BTL says you are doing it all wrong"
Miss BTL - Makes me feel VERY uncomfortable to correct a teacher.
BooBoo - A year in HS and a year in college. My receptive is definitely better than my expressive.
Stanley - Please explain more about the flack, Miss BTl!
Stanley - BooBoo, what subj did you S/T?
Miss BTL - Well....There I was, merrily teaching. I noticed the kids pronounced the same words poorly, so I said that it looks like it should be pronounced that way, but it really is pronounced another.
BooBoo - general science 5-12 is my cert. area
Miss BTL - This got back to the teacher (along with my corrections regarding her overhead sheet spelling mistakes) and she tracked me down next time I was in the bldg to tell me how unhappy she was with me.
Stanley - Miss BTL, I've only correct a classroom T when it was something on a chart he or she had made. [And then my point was that I'm sure he/she DIDN'T want an administrator to see the error...]
Ksub - Oh no, Miss BTL. What did you say?
Miss BTL - Mostly, ksub, I nodded and smiled. I'm good at that.
Stanley - Miss BTL, I'd say that took **LOTS** of nerve on HER part, don't you??
Miss BTL - I have a hard time with spelling mistakes on charts or in teacher notes. Really gets my goat.
BooBoo - That was probably for the best, Miss
BooBoo - I would have done the same, I'm very nonconfrontational
Stanley - ((( Miss BTL ))), ya' handled it **PERFECTLY**, IMO!!
Miss BTL - I'm sure she was embarrassed, and I am full of empathy for her, but the school really should hire someone fluent in Spanish to teach it. IMHO
BooBoo - Miss BTL, if you hadn't corrected the overhead, then the students would be repeating the mistakes
Stanley - I wouldn't think they'd have a horrible time finding a fluent speaker in WA, would you??
BooBoo - Stan, I had a friend last year who was from Nicaragua and was a Spanish sub in a perm sub position
BooBoo - The students were always giving her a hard time because she was tough
BooBoo - But she really had a lot of fun activities if they just would have gone along with her
Miss BTL - My worst days of this sort are subbing for a certain JR H math teacher who is more of an American History guy. The kids always say embarrassing quotes the next day, "Why can't you explain it the way Miss BTL explains it?" It's great for my ego, but heck, I already know I'm a good teacher. I can tell that from the way kids get the lesson. I want the teacher to feel comfy with me in the staff room. That's all.
Miss BTL - Ya wouldn't, no, but the hiring system is a bit of a roulette wheel.
BooBoo - What's your area, Miss?
Stanley - BooBoo, it's my understanding that Ts have **MUCH** more respect in Latino countries!
Miss BTL - They didn't "just go along with her"? what happened? Is she still teaching?
Miss BTL - Jill of all trades here, BooBoo. Am a killer reading teacher, and not too bad at math, either, if I do say so myself
BooBoo - Well, sometimes her English was hard to understand and I think that the students thought she was ignorant of some things, so they had no respect for her to begin with
BooBoo - Yeah, she's happily teaching at the local university where the students actually want to learn Spanish.
Miss BTL - Shame, BooBoo. I like Arnold Schwartzeneger's response of "...and how many languages do YOU speak?" when teased about his accent.
Stanley - BooBoo, did you say what state you teach in? [If so, I missed it...]
Miss BTL - Pay attn, Stanley.
BooBoo - West Virginia
Miss BTL - I'm surprised so few from the board showed up tonight.
Stanley - Bottom line here :: Some of us think **WE'VE** the only language in the world, so OTHERS must have a problem when they're less fluent than we "expect" them to be... ;-(
BooBoo - Oh, Miss, I had no trouble understanding her. In a former life, I was a speech therapist. I was trained to listen to someone talking. HA! HA!
Miss BTL - Agree
Stanley - Ooops... send me to be paddled...
Ksub - This is a lot of fun.
Miss BTL - Guess I'd better dash away. Thanks for the chat, Stanley. Nice meeting you, Boo....Will we see you posting on the chatboard, Boo?
BooBoo - Stan, I do genealogy and on some of their lists others around the world are complaining about how people in the U.S. will use the state abbreviations which they can't decipher. They have a point.
Miss BTL - wb ksub
Ksub - bye, Miss BTL.
BooBoo - Yeah, I should go back in there. Don't want to be flamebroiled on the main board.
Stanley - BooBoo, my local SuperSub colleague [on an emergency credential] has a degree in Speech Pathology!
BooBoo - Night, Miss
Miss BTL - I can't read the main board. I checked in a time or two and found about three thousand new posts....too many to sort through.
Miss BTL - Night all.
BooBoo - Speech is my undergraduate degree.
BooBoo - It has come in handy with SpEd kids and identifying those with problems.
Stanley - We've more posts on the SubBoard than we used to. However, **NO** where near as many as on the MainBoard!
BooBoo - I'll have to check it out. Is that "bad Johnny" still on there?
BooBoo - I think he was an art sub in disguise but I can't remember his real name.
BooBoo - I remember you, Stanley, and the knuckle-draggers. Still teaching them?
Stanley - With any luck I'll have my "own" intercession classroom for the 2 wks after Easter. [Amongst other things, that will increase my pay by about $85/day!]
BooBoo - I remember Magoo, too. She has such a dry sense of humor.
Stanley - BooBoo, you're confusing me with Stromer! But, you didn't used to post as "BooBoo," did you?
Ksub - Are there usually a lot of subs here in this " meeting room"
BooBoo - Nah, I was Kim in WV then
BooBoo - BooBoo is a nickname my uncle gave me when I was growing up. Guess what his nickname was?
Stanley - Ksub, usually there are a FEW more than tonight. However, we had "enough" tonight, IMO.
Ksub - What does "IMO" mean?
Stanley - Just so long as it wasn't "1-I'd-Bubba," which is what I was using here in the ChatRoom!
BooBoo - "In my opinion" also IMHO = "in my humble opinion"
Ksub - Thanks!!
Stanley - IMO = in my opinion, sometimes with an "H" for "humble."
BooBoo - Stan, didn't you watch cartoons in the 60s?
BooBoo - His nickname was Yogi, short for Yogi Bear
Stanley - Hmmmm... then your uncle is "Yogi," right?
BooBoo - Stan, surely you don't look like a Bubba, do you?
Stanley - Hey, got it ALLLLLL on my "own," ya' know!
BooBoo - Did you get DA BOOT, Ksub?
Ksub - yes, I don't know what happened.
BooBoo - Ksub, there's a page somewhere that gives all the abbreviations used in email. Any idea where it is, Stan?
Stanley - I wore a patch on my left eye for about 13 mos. [Recouping from a detached retina.] Last yr a G-6 "wise guy" called me a "1-I'd-Bubba." I thought it was kind of funny, & adopted it here...
BooBoo - I've watched my teenage son on AOL and I don't know half the abbreviations he uses
Ksub - It is funny. "1-I'd Bubba.
BooBoo - I actually had a girl in the 9th grade science class turn in her homework using email abbrev. in her answers.
Stanley - BooBoo, I've got it downloaded somewhere -- I think... If I can find it, I'll post it one of these days on the SubBoard.
BooBoo - Needless to say, I made her do it over again
Ksub - Thanks. Stanley. I'll be watching for it on the SubBoard.
Ksub - Well, gotta go. Maybe I will get a call to work tomorrow. Talk to you all later.
BooBoo - Stan, didn't you go around saying "Arghhh, me mateys"?
BooBoo - Nice meeting you, Ksub. I will go to the Sub Chatboard, so I'll see you there.
Ksub - Bye, BooBoo. Nice meeting you , and Stanley too. bye.
Stanley - What are the daily sub pay rates where each of you work? Here in San Diego County they range from, I believe, $80 to $120. L.A. Unified, however, pays 150 something with 200 for "certain" schools.
BooBoo - Last year when I subbed it was $85, this year it is $91 before taxes, but I've also have 4 yrs experience
BooBoo - I work in one of the better paying counties in WV
Stanley - I had a Kinder look up @ me & holler out, "Hey, 1-I'd man!" However, only a G-3 GATE boy asked if I was a pirate!
BooBoo - What's your fav grade to sub? When I resigned up for subbing I told them I wouldn't do elementary
Stanley - So your pay increases with longevity? I know of **NO** district around here that does that. Moreover, if they did, I'd be concerned that the most "expensive" Subs would be the LAST to be offered work!
BooBoo - I have found that since I've gotten older I have little tolerance for elementary
BooBoo - Although that may change since I have a 2 1/2 yo grand-daughter
BooBoo - I'm not sure what type of sub caller we have but it calls the people who have worked the most first. Since I came in during the second semester, I'm always one of the last to be called.
Stanley - I TRULY care not among K-5 when it comes to Subbing. For L.A. next yr, however, I'll lobby HARD for G-3 as it is THE oldest grade here which still has 20:1 class size ratios.
Stanley - My major district uses the "SAMS" system, the others use "Substitute Finder." I've **NO** idea how they have those suckers programmed!
BooBoo - Don't you think it's funny that they mandate class size up until G-6 but then all of the classes above that schools are allowed to squeeze them in like sardines. Like after G-6, students suddenly can learn in a crowded environment and teachers can reach the masses.
Stanley - Up to G-6??? HERE 20:1 stops after G-3!!
BooBoo - I'm not sure when it starts (maybe G-4) but the ratio up to G-6 is 25:1, if it is bigger the teacher will get extra pay.
Stanley - Watch my typin': I'm listenin' to a song entitled "Funky Shuffle!"
BooBoo - I'm sure the ratio is lower for the lower grades.
BooBoo - Is that anything like "Disco Duck"?
BooBoo - My teenage son (14yo) is watching something about Pink Floyd on TV.
Stanley - Here K-3 is usually 20:1. Above that is not supposed to exceed 34 [I believe], at least for self-contained.
BooBoo - Strange music...very strange indeed
Stanley - Do you have a subject in which you specialize?
BooBoo - Although WV doesn't have a cert. area in it yet, I love to teach Earth Science (geology, oceanography, astronomy, etc.)
Stanley - Quack, quaaaaaack??
BooBoo - Last fall, I taught 9th grade science and 10th grade honors science, before I resigned.
BooBoo - A good bit of the G-9 science curriculum is Earth Science, so I liked it.
Stanley - How many contracted yrs do you have in the classroom?
BooBoo - I don't know too much about jazz I'm afraid. I like Harry Connick, Jr. though. Does that count?
BooBoo - Last semester was my first. The other 4 yrs. were usually as a perm. sub.
Stanley - Hmmm... they rarely, if ever, play him on the station to which I listen. However, he's at least closer than "Pink Floyd!"
BooBoo - 14 yo son is playing in a guitar ensemble after school. I think they are working on some jazz tunes.
Stanley - But, they occasionally play artists that are commonly considered "jazz" or even "smooth jazz" players. [E.g., @ this moment they've a cut from Stevie Wonder, "Bubba's" "fav!"]
BooBoo - Both of my sons play guitar and are into the classic rock and roll bands... Led Zepellin, Black Sabbath, Van Halen. What goes around, comes around.
Stanley - Hey, but now that I hear Stevie wailin' away on the harmonica...
BooBoo - I liked Stevie back in the day.
Stanley - I'm of Volga German "roots" -- like Lawrence Welk. Since other genres have "come back," think there's any hope for HIM?
BooBoo - Well, Stan, it's been nice to finally chat with other subs. I need to get to bed in case I get called in the morning. I'll see you on the chatboard.
Stanley - Greetings, Zonie! [Excuse the impudent San Diegan, here!
BooBoo - LW is played on public TV every Saturday night here.
Stanley - Likewise, BooBoo!
Stanley - BooBoo, I think they stopped LW here. [Gawd, as a kid, when relatives came to visit, how we used to **HATE** Sat PMs in front of the telly!]
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