Abby - Any of you currently working on your portfolio?
sue - hi yall- sorry had technical difficulties
Susan (NC) - Yes, Abby - I'm a "banker" and am currently working on 2.........Science & Community.
sue - no, I'm a NBCT
Abby - I'm working on literacy...it's eating my lunch!
sue - I'm working with several candidates though and they are working hard right now
sue - abby- what's the problem?
Susan (NC) - Abby, just take it 1 day at a time or it will consume you!
Abby - I just can't seem to get it to "flow". I've got 5 pages written, and am only supposed to have 3.
sue - susan- how is science going?
sue - abby- is there anything in the entry that you could put in your instructional context?
Susan (NC) - sue, I taped several lessons last week; no "keepers" but it gives me something to write about. The kids are excited about magnets (lst grade) so it helps!
Abby - possibly...hadn't thought of that.
sue - Becca- enjoying life as a CIW?
Susan (NC) - sue, how much did you write about in your reflection (science) that you would have changed?
bruppert - Hey, everyone!
Susan (NC) - hey bruppert, how are you this week?
Becca - I just work up from a two hour nap! What a luxury!!! I've been sick this week respitory and sinus infection but we had several days off due to "ice" so I was able to stay home!
sue - susan- not a lot. my lesson went well and it was a natural progression from unit to unit.
bruppert - Doing OK we only went to school 1/2 day this week due to the snow. I can handle this for sure!
sue - susan- but I would have changed the comp of mu group
sue - what do you do to make up snow days?
Susan (NC) - sue, that's the problem I'm having.........my magnet lessons are moving along nicely and I think I'll tape with a small group next week to see if I can tell a difference. My tapes so far are "too loud" every table wants to share at the same time!
sue - I'm really curious about snow. We have hurricane kits with water, food, etc for emergencies. Are there such things as snow kits?
Becca - We took away all of out work days and we are now addin gon to the end of the year
bruppert - sue, to make up snow days we had 5 days built into the year and now they are adding onto the end of the year.
Genie - Hi all...glad I finally remembered to log on!
Becca - Blackets would be good to add to the kits
Susan (NC) - sue, snow kits..........that's funny!
Becca - blankets
bruppert - sue, if it starts to snow and it accumulated they send the kids home early
Genie - I have a quick question: How do you show books for the instructional materials?
sue - susan- sounds like y ou're on the right track
Susan (NC) - So far, we have 5 days to make up at the end of the year............we never get out the end of June like our calendar says........
Becca - kids books or picture books?
Genie - picture books...
sue - Ok, so your snow is like our flash flood and hurricane days
Becca - Susan where are you in NC that you get out at the end of June? We get out at the end of May.
Abby - Chocolate would be in my snow kit!
Becca - In Raleigh
sue - thanks for the weather lesson
Susan (NC) - Our kids missed their Valentine's parties last week............they were so mad to be sent home early - - - for once they wanted to stay!
Genie - I don't have many "worksheets" for entry 2....but lots of books...about puppets, art, and self esteem
bruppert - sue, did you send the play stuff to me?
Genie - I would include chocolate in any emergency kit!!! HA
Becca - Genie did the students do any written "reflections" on the unit?
sue - genie- can you write them up as part of what happened before the video o affter
sue - bruppert- in the car to be mailed from the office. I was out 2 1/2 days this week!
Susan (NC) - Becca - excuse me - that should have said "end of May" we get out - it is usually the lst part of June..........sorry!!
Genie - not yet....we are going to make a class book at the end of the unit...so that is one of my IM's, but I need more IM's....
sue - Yall it was way cool-- the state had a reception for all the new NBCT's at the capitol
Becca - susan-I was hoping you were right I would have moved there! I don't like how NC goes back to school so early!
Genie - I did have a chart w/ student dictations....and a poster
Debra - I have a couple of questions, still fuzzy here: (1) on entry 2, Planning and Instruction, it asks what instructional materials from the arts and SS were used during this integrative instruction, do they mean the Video, my Unit or what?
Abby - sue, Where do you live?
bruppert - thanks sue, I don't mean to pester you at all. sorry
sue - abby- burb of new orleans
sue - bruppert- not pestering at all
sue - LOL! with all the teachers I have going throug evaluation in the next two weeks, mardi gras holidays and my schedule, I need a reminder now and then!
Abby - My portfolio is due Mar. 15, and the AC is Mar. 28. Any advice?
Genie - Debra, I am taking it to mean the whole unit
Susan (NC) - Becca, did you get a lot of "ICE" last weekend? I can't believe how many storms the middle of the state has had compared to the mountains where I am........
Genie - Susan, where do you live?
sue - abby- just make sure you have answered the questions. make sure you go thru the tutorial for the AC
Terri - Hi, what is everyone up to?
Genie - my parents live in Brevard...south of Asheville
sue - review your standards!!
Debra - Unit is good, I had quite a number of both throughout, but the video sequence is a group circle time where they are discussing and role playing senarios of responsibility
Susan (NC) - Genie, I'm in western NC near Cherokee.
Becca - We sure did! We were in DC on SAT?SUN and drove home through it on SUN. We were home both Mon and Tuesday. !
Debra - I have another question about the video, I asked this on the mail ring, and I think that I am ok, but still wanted to ask one more time, I am not the focal point in the video, I am in the circle and participate but the leader of the day is the one leading the group, and the kids are doing the discussion with me keeping it focused or asking a questions - something like that, does that sound ok?
Abby - Thanks, sue. I'm going to go try to juggle some info into inst. context!
bruppert - Becca, I live near DC it was some kind of storm for our area.
Becca - Abby the files have a test taking tips. Not sure where it is I'll look and get back to you
Debra - I am looking for a NB certified person to read my instructional context, any takers?
sue - becca- when did you take your AC?
Susan (NC) - I'm still not happy with my community video's..........I have maybe 2 I could use but I still want them to TALK more instead of me being so teacher directed - when I tried a "role play" they got giggles but this led to some serious talking for about 3 minutes; think I could use it or start over?
Becca - I took it in August 1st??? Before we went back to school/before the portfolio.
sue - susan- does the video meet all the requirements
sue - becca- Ok, couldn't remember.
Becca - Susan what did you do to help the students prepare for the role play?
Terri - Debra. I am just going through processbut it sounds good to me, like you have good sense of community
Debra - at the beg of my video it was slow also because of the camera and all, but after a bit they warmed up and were focused on each other, I let the camera roll for quite a while and I have a chunk I can use, do you think you do?
Susan (NC) - sue, I guess "sort of" doesn't get it, right? I'd better try again!
sue - susan- I did 2 videos for science but only 1 for social studies.
Debra - Well that sense of community is really strong in the video, the class has it big time, the SS concept is there, but they are still learning about responsibility
sue - ss just fit the bill the first time
Debra - I will be right back,
Terri - What grade Debra?
sue - debra- what is your arts?
Susan (NC) - Becca, I never tried to do a role play before and the kids are little hams anyway - I just gave them a topic about 2 kids fighting and let them go.........I wrote this up in my commentary but now I have 2nd thougts?
Genie - Does the arts need to be in the video or can it be the follow-up activity and be in the write-up?
sue - susan- did you include your rationale for using the arts s the tool for teaching the concept?
tmw1/sc - Hello everyone!
sue - genie- get clarification from NB on that. I've heard too many differnt answers
Susan (NC) - sue, forgot to say my community is from the older generation............so did not have the same requirements as last year-
Becca - Susan-During my role plays I give the chilren time to work together before they were(video)/are (normally) in front of the class. They then present the roles play. and they lead the discussion that follows. I will often prepare 3-4 questions for the presenters to ask the audience.
Genie - me, too...that's why I'm a little confused!!!
sue - susan-OK, then your's is a whole differnt critter!
tmw1/sc - For literacy, I chose option b for both students. Do I have to transcribe write the students wrote somewhere to make sure the assesors can understand what the worksamples say? If so, where?
sue - I certifed in November. Our video needed to have arts, community and ss integrated
Susan (NC) - OK becca, that is a good idea, I'll try it next week - I think it could work if I gave them a little more direction instead of letting 1st graders come up with their own material..........
Debra - I teach 1st -my arts was role play, puppet play, Motto poster
Terri - tmw, you type it on a separate sheet that follows the student work
Genie - hi diane and tmw
Becca - tmw1-see page the last bullet on the page. I just put the page behind the writing sample
Becca - opps see page 10
diane - good afternoon everyone
Debra - my role play came from discussion, and I also had some prompts they could choose if they wanted to use them
sue - don't forget other arts standards that may be met-- working cooperatively as part of a group, using different media, etc
tmw1/sc - That's what I thought, just wanted to reassure myself.
Genie - oh good...one of my samples is very hard to decipher!!! HA
tmw1/sc - Hello Peggy!
diane - finished 4 pgs. of planning/instruction for entr3 so now i have to start cutting...what fun!
Terri - I think cutting has been the hardest part for me. I am just too wordy.
Debra - I did have different media with the puppets they made and then used in the theater for various situations we discussed; and then the Motto Poster, they went through a process of looking at mottos posters etc and then making their own; and then for the role play, it was how they would respond pro-socially after a difficult situation.
Becca - Susan-we ususally stick to one topic..ie a poem re-inactment, jobs in the community, I typically don't provide "props" but let them get their own (as needed). However typing the question ahead (the ?s the presenters ask the audience) has helpes focus the discussions
Peggy - I wonder if someone could answer a question for me? I think I forgot to place my candidate ID number in the right hand corner of my photo id that is required for entries 2 and 3. What should I do? Will this affect my score?
sue - debra- interpreting and evaluating artwork is another standard
Genie - I'm doing the same thing for 1...I had 8 pages for analysis....I think I almost have it down to 6
diane - its hard to cut but i would rather cut then think of stuff when i don't know what they are really asking
Debra - Terry, me too, so I would look to see it it was the flowery talk or fluff or describing the answer to the question
tmw1/sc - For science, I am planning to send in a student graph, a "what I learned" prompt from the science journal, a copy of an assessment I am going to do for my unit on sink and float. Are these good ideas? Or am I on the wrong track.
diane - hey bruppert...guess what...i am still alive and well!!
Terri - I think sometimes I wrote more cause I wasn't sure what was being asked and was trying to cover all the bases.
sue - peggy- if there's anything major NB will call. the id is only to use to verify it's your face on the video
bruppert - OH I am so glad I have been thinking of you.
Debra - that is something you want to avoid Terry because it is not clear when you do that
diane - student graph/journal and assessment all sound good
Becca - Sue did you say they will call you?
Terri - You can't do it anyway, takes up too much space!
diane - what doesn't kill me will hopefully make me stronger OR put me that much closer to the grave!!!
Susan (NC) - Better go guys and get back to work, everyone have a good week and hope all these winter storms are behind us!
tmw1/sc - I wanted to show how I related sink and float across the curriculum and one way of assessing it.
Genie - diane, sounds like a quote from steel magnolias....
bruppert - diane, I told you we would laugh at all this one day !!
diane - what storms?? it is hot here
Debra - I made my husband promise that on my tombstone it says she worked hard on NB! LOL or if fortunate next year was a NB teacher!
tmw1/sc - I loved that movie!
diane - hey bruppert...not quite ready to laugh...maybe someday...say 5 yrs. from now
Debra - well, I am not sure when the laughter comes in, right now I am in migrain headache mode
Genie - me, too...my daughter just got engaged and i made her promise NOT to have blush or bashful for her "colors"!!!!
sue - yall, you will laugh I promise!
Peggy - Sue, thank you for the answer - I mailed my box yesterday and have been worried about it all day and part of the night1
bruppert - Steel Magnolias is a classic, I love the part where Shirley M. sits next to Olivia Duca... and says if you have something nasty to say sit next to me. We all thought that was the best.
sue - I finally got to meet some cyberfriend who struggled through the process last year this week.
diane - that is a favorite movie of mine along with fried green tomatoes
Debra - I love every line in that movie, and cry everytime I see it
bruppert - diane, it is too fresh right now, and not all the parts have been played.
Genie - a friend's daughter did have a "bleedin' armadillo cake" for the grooms' cake
bruppert - sue was that exciting or what? to meet your cyber friends.?
sue - We spent a lot of time laughing about our problems
diane - can i play an angel and just FLY away forever??
sue - peggy- if it makes you feel better call NB
Becca - Sue who did you meet? I was luck to meet on of mine this fall we went to the NB conference and were roomies
Genie - sorry...diane, but NB will still expect your portfolio!!!
bruppert - I got to meet Kelly when she came to DC last year and that was so fun
sue - bruppert- yes! as well as those I met with monthly.
Becca - Kelly is great! I met her too!
Terri - rats, just counted pages for documented accomplishments, am working on final draft, have 12 and a half!
diane - i have only one entry to redo...THANK GOODNESS!!!
tmw1/sc - I will be so thankful if I ever get through this process. It's bad when you start to dream about NB every night.
bruppert - you are lucky diane I am doing more than one.
Debra - I just want to ask once more, about the arts in entry 2, did someone say that for the Motto poster a good standard was interpret and eval art work? Because that was built into that experience, we have new Motto are in our halls and we went on a hall walk and discussed what we saw and what it meant
diane - is kelly as neat as she sounds???
sue - becca- they were mostly the ones from my state board and alycat
bruppert - diane yes, you need to come to hte convention in NOv. this coming fall.
diane - it is a problem when your dreams are all about magnets
sue - debra- yes, it was me. go to wizzlewolf.com and/or the louisiana state arts standards to see what other standards you included but did not mention
Debra - at least it is not night mare about magnets
Genie - or burning houses...w/ portfolio still in it
diane - where is the convention this fall??
bruppert - my dreams are all about matter and literacy
tmw1/sc - My husband tells me that my computer sees me more than he does. Ha! Ha!
Terri - only if your entry is sink and float
sue - nove 13-16 in Washington, DC
bruppert - DC. diane,
Becca - DC
bruppert - come on up diane!!
Debra - so how can I find someone to read my Instructional context?
catherine_antonia - is this a scheduled topic?
bruppert - sue come on over !!
tmw1/sc - I am taping science this week on sink and float. Any good tips?
sue - here's a qupte my husband shared with a husband of another NBCT-- those three were always at the house-- all the time. It was like being married to 3 women!!"
sue - bruppert- might just do that if I;m not traveling for work
bruppert - your husband must have loved all the girls!! sue!
Genie - Ok...let me be sure I have this right...I do include all the books we read as part of the unit...and then just have something else for the Instr. materials for this unit...right? I think they are all bleeding together
Debra - tip on sink float- before you do it have the kids create their own "wonder" statements about what and why they think it will happen
sue - bruppert- he was used to it LOL!
Terri - Debra, have you asked on the ring.
bruppert - I told my husband I had to mee thte ones I had met on the internet if I pass.
diane - this to shall pass...when i sent in my box last april i was still preoccupied until after the ac...then you relax until you start waiting for the scores
catherine_antonia - Is anyone a teacher in Wisconsin?
Genie - tmw....be sure to have LOTS of paper towels on hand...and if you have some kind of recording sheet...keep them away from the water
sue - sink and float observation from today's event-- some blue crayola crayons float, some sink--- why???
Debra - yep but it was slow today, so not many messges at all
diane - uctional mat. can be a kwl. writing on topic...materials used
sue - I did the Title I Family Involvement Meeting with 1-- parents and 150 kids this morning
Terri - all my crayons sank, I couldn't find any floaters and tried different ones
tmw1/sc - I laminated my record sheets for the students so that if they get wet, I can just dry them off.
catherine_antonia - ok ty...I'll take that as a no
Terri - I had a pumpkin that sank and I was sure those floated
diane - that's instructional materials not uctional ....no wonder i didn't pass
Genie - my pumpkin floated!!! HA
Becca - catherine we are a group of teacher working on /discussing NB certification.
sue - navy blue crayons floated, lighter blues sunk\
sue - well, gotta get ready for son and company
diane - there's an aha moment...why did yours float and hers sink???
Becca - Sue did the brand matter?
sue - have a great week writing yall
Terri - Some crayons are supposed to float because they have more wax content
bruppert - sue see you soon. so to speak!!,
Terri - what brand floated?
Becca - bye sue?
sue - becca- no they were all crayola. I tried it again with same results. Do you think it was the weight of the paper or the ink in the label?
bruppert - diane what are you writing on for science?
sue - terri- navy blue sank, sky blue floated
sue - bye yall
Becca - how strange!
bruppert - bb sue
Genie - thanks, sue
sue - goytta go
tmw1/sc - Bye sue! Have a great week.
diane - magnets....remember my dreams are about repel/attraction...finally figured out the big idea
bruppert - oh I forgot, diane
tmw1/sc - The big idea is really giving me a hard time.
bruppert - what grade diane?
diane - working on this stuff will do that to you bruppert
bruppert - yeah I know for two years....
diane - did the unit with kinder but i teach math to k-1-2
bruppert - tmwl, what are you doing?
tmw1/sc - Sink and float
bruppert - diane, I am doing properties of water and with all this snow we have several things going. but no tape yet
Genie - well, entry 1 is calling my name...again and again and again...have a good day writing...bye
bruppert - well do the crayon thing tmwl. that sounds like fun...
diane - do you know what bidea goes with that ?
bruppert - bye genie...
bruppert - diane who did you ask that of?
tmw1/sc - At the end of the unit, the students will make their own boat out of clay. We will be talking about the different shapes of boats. Could I use form and function?
bruppert - I know my big idea
Becca - bye guys! Talk to you soon!
diane - tape done and 4 pgs. written....4 plus 2 more pgs. need to be done but i have until 4/15
Becca - ecca
bruppert - hey have the kids make a boat out of ivory soap too, we did that one time and it was so fun
diane - you and tmw1/sc bruppert
tmw1/sc - Mine is due 4/15 too!
bruppert - me too, 4/15, but I plan to be finished by Mar,. 31
diane - is form and function a big idea??
bruppert - my big idea is change, constancy and measurement.
tmw1/sc - Same goal here. Want to have plenty of time to pack up and mail it.
Terri - yes, form and function is big idea
tmw1/sc - I thought it was.
Debra - Me too, will try to be done by Mar 31. but my spring break is the next week, so I could ponder it once more
diane - yep...just checked too and it is...mine was systems, order and organization
tmw1/sc - kinda like does the form or shape of the object or boat relate to it's function in sinking or floating
tmw1/sc - Am I way off here?
Terri - form relates to how much cargo boat will hold
tmw1/sc - Like I said the big idea is giving me a hard time
diane - that makes sense...it is hard when the big idea doesn't make a whole lot of sense to you
Terri - I see what you are saying but I am no authority
tmw1/sc - Like how many pennies or dimes it takes to make the boat sink
bruppert - I have a hard time e xplaining the big ideas. too
Terri - I used bear counters in foil boats as one activity, but not one I taped
tmw1/sc - Is that what you are saying?
Debra - I have a comment on the big idea - I think it is CRITICAL to the entry and it is something that you want a handle on, because it should be referenced throughout the entry, not just a line; also you will need it for the assessment center
bruppert - you are so right Debra!! I got the book Science for all Amercians and it explains concept really well on a level I can understand.
tmw1/sc - I want the students to discover what it takes to make a clay boat float. Tried it out with my husband, his boat sank and mine floated. He thought he was the expert on boats. Ha! Ha!
Terri - Others have given me the same advice Debra
bruppert - I think it is interesting about he crayons and the colors that float.
diane - i think big ideas are hard because we weren't trained to think that way...have to reevaluate our thinking
tmw1/sc - I agree diane
Debra - It is totally an important point, that I hope whoever is working on the entry does not overlook. BI is as essential as breathing is to life
Terri - yep
bruppert - Debra you are sounding so PROFOUND !!!!
bruppert - like an accomplished teacher for real!!
Debra - Well it is not re-evaluating your thinking, it is more like looking through a new lens, you are probably doing it, but have not experienced the language, so you need to get a grasp so you can talk the talk that you most likely are already walking!
diane - well maybe i had better look over those 4 pgs. of planning and instruction i thought were done...drats!!!
bruppert - diane you did fine I am sure of it.
tmw1/sc - Well, gotta go. I hope everyone has a great week.
Debra - Don't say RATS, be thankful for the time to re-read it and make sure you have what the entry wants, it will give you a better outcome next November!
Terri - guess I better go figure out how to shave a half page off documented accomp.
Terri - thanks for advice Debra
Debra - When I was writing today, I wrote and then re-read every paragraph and checked to see I was not re-stating the obvious of what I just said. It helps to look at how you can say it once, clearly
diane - debra did you assess last year
Debra - No, I am a banker! Missed by a hair, so I am re-doing my Social Studies entry
diane - me too...but my hair was 7 points
bruppert - what are you doing Debra?
diane - hey kristi...did you type all day today??
bruppert - I wish I could be motivate to type all day...
kristi - Debra-I have been reading for a while now. You said that you reread to find a way to say it once clearly. Did you restate your questions in your entry 3? I feel that I am repeating myself when I answer several of the questions.
bruppert - I think I am too wired to sit still long enough
diane - i can type for hours until it all starts to sound the same
kristi - Hey Diane! I have typed for several hours today. I had to get out for a while and get another ink cartridge and some more paper! I typed till late last night.
Debra - I am doing Citizenship through responsibility, it is actually my year long theme, and the Soc Skills are the Marvin Marshall type stuff through Community Meetings where the kids lead, it is awesome to watch them; and the arts is role play; puppets and Mottos the theme has been ongoing, but for the board, it is an integrative unit on Red Hen/Little Yellow Chicken that came after we did MLK, and Tacky the Penguin
bruppert - sounds really cute
diane - i did my ss/arts on MLK last year
bruppert - me too, diane
Debra - Kristi, first you have a blank sheet, and type in the prompts in a color, then you answer it in a different color, and make sure you have it all there, then you see if you are restating yourself, and if so, cut it out and leave it CLEARLY and CONSICELY
Debra - last year I did my SS/arts on Economics
bruppert - one of the best units and the kids wanted tolearna bout MLK they did not know who he was.
diane - i number my paper according to the bullets and then just delete numbers when done covering each bullet
Debra - My problem last year was probably 2 things (1) my arts was not the strongest and that hurt; and (2) I think that I was perhaps not thinking correctly on the reflection; I think I thought the lesson was good, and had trouble coming up with what to do better next time - they don't want to hear how wonderful it was and that you are so happy with the outcome!.
bruppert - yeah I read about doing the color thing,
bruppert - I think that is a good idea.
kristi - Thanks Debra! That sounds good. I have typed the questions in italics, but was going to take them out. However, I did not think about deleting some of the answers considering I was repeating myself. I know that when they asked about learning sequence of activities, I repeated some of the stuff I said in the nature and flow of activities. I will go back and cut!
Debra - DO it, it will help
diane - you are right debra but sometimes we ARE so pleased with how a lesson went nad it is hard to write about how to change and improve it
bruppert - but isn't learning sequence the same and the nature and flow of activities.?
bruppert - I had lots of thinks I would ahve done differently with my MLK unit and I did it different this year, but it went better last year as the kids want to study him and asked if we could, that is what I liked as it was student generated.
kristi - They are two different questions. Somebody said that nature and flow is just a brief sketch where in the learning sequence of activities, you actually explain in detail. I think that I should just tell it all together, detail and all and only do it once???
Debra - Why = red knowledge and concepts from within social studies = green - arts = blue and skills = orange.
diane - no they are different...triplett says nature and flow is why you did what you did when you did it
Debra - Yes Diane, but it is not what they want, so you must be careful not to leave out the next step in learning type of refelction
kristi - Don't you think that when you are telling what you did that you would explain at that time why you did it when you did it? My activities were based on prior inquiries so they build my learning sequence.???
diane - debra..not sure what you mean
Debra - I mean that in the reflection they just dont wasnt to hear how great you thought it was, and if that is the essense of the reflection then points will not be given
Debra - You dont lose points, you just don't get points, so when we add stuff that is unecessary, we hurt the score possibility. This type of writing is so different from what we are used to
diane - ok...i knew that...i am examining what i could have done better on the video as well as throughout the unit of study...saw that i totally ignored on child who was consistently pushing other students out of the way to get the magnets he wanted...just a simple example
bruppert - I have an outline for my science as I have not started wrting since Ihave not completed my video
diane - kristi..did you see my e-mail about my fax number at school???
bruppert - but you guys have given me some things to think on.
kristi - Diane: yes, I will fax it to you Monday, that is, if I don't forget. I'll have to write myself a note!
Debra - Well, sometimes, we may actually interrupt their thinking or say something that causes the discussion to change that may not have been what was best for the learning. There are a 100 things at any time that could be the factor, and not that what you saw or did was not good, only that next time you would want to >>>> for a child's indepth understanding
diane - great thanks...i'll be there for a half day...going to dentist
Debra - gotta go, best wishes in your writing
diane - understand...sometimes on the video i entered when i should have stayed out
bruppert - I may be way off base now, oh well
diane - well girls it is just the 3 of us...what do you mean off base?
kristi - i asked some questions that would have been better if asked in a different way
diane - great...that is what needs to go into reflection
kristi - well, i guess i am off to watch the video again for some more ideas in the analysis. bye!
bruppert - I thought I knew what I would write on but now I am not sure.
diane - well i need to go to publix to get my heart pills and i will talk to you both via emials and the ring...i'll still might telephone you kristi and you are a doll bette
Chalcedony - http://savejoyseducation.tripod.om
bruppert - you are also a doll my dear diane hang in there.
shelby - any ideas on inquiry with ladybugs or worms?
