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judy3ca - How's it going with the big kids?
naneb - my student teacher is gone!!
judy3ca - Are you glad?
naneb - judy, have you read the book Blackberries in the Dark?
judy3ca - no
naneb - yes!!! i am ecstatic, it was so nice to have my room back
naneb - I am looking for copies to buy, I have 11 copies, someone took one copy last year
naneb - I got a bookcloseouts order today!!
Grace/IL - Hi everyone. Spent yesterday and today at the Illinois Dyslexia Association conference. I may fall asleep in the middle of this. LOL
judy3ca - nan, what good books did you get?
Alta Rose - Hi Cavey. What did you get, nan?
naneb - did you learn anything new?
judy3ca - ((((cavey))))
cavey - My order should be in soon, nan!
Grace/IL - naneb, I didn't go to sessions -- was an exhibitor. It was good to talk with other vendors. Met Ken Campbell of Great Leaps.
judy3ca - nan--what books did you get that you like?
naneb - Going Home by Eve Bunting, Faithful Friend by Sans Souci, Trees of the Dancing Goats and Some Birthday by Polacco plus lots of nonfiction
cavey - How are all of you who don't have snipers running loose in their neighborhoods?
naneb - I have 2 more orders coming and a big scholastic order too
Alta Rose - Sounds good, nan!
judy3ca - Oh, I love all of those!
Alta Rose - Is that where you are, Cavey?
cavey - Oh yes, my part of the woods, Alta
naneb - Judy, I bought Going Home on your reccommendation and I love it, plus Faithful Friend is good too, I got a poetry book and 2 copies of Jim trelease's Read aloud Handbook
Grace/IL - Oooh, Cavey, please stay indoors.
judy3ca - That's so sad, cavey. Stay safe!
Alta Rose - Must be scary to go out in public.
cavey - We have been in lock down all week, no recess, police posted at morning and afternoons
naneb - must be really scary for the kids
Alta Rose - I hope they catch him soon!
judy3ca - Nan, I'm glad you like Going Home. I bought Faithful Friends, but think it's a little odd. I love the 2 by Polacco.
naneb - our city library has a big Friends of the Library sale tomorrow so, I am hoping to find some gems
cavey - Me too Alta! But, back to the books, What is the Goat one Nan?
naneb - I only read the beginning of Faithful Friend, the artwork alone is great
naneb - It is about a Jewish family who makes Christmas for their sick neighbors, they decorate the tree with wooden goats
cavey - Speaking of holiday stories, I just read The Shine Man by Mary Quattlebaum. Very good.
naneb - Judy, my kids finished their nonfiction conventions books and had to draw a name of a convention out of a box and explain how it helps you find important facts, they did great
judy3ca - I just bought and read aloud "Chasing the moon to China" and I recommend it highly--I'm really trying to bring more NF to minilessons.
judy3ca - Good for you kids, Nan. Did I tell you I gave your booklet to my friend the 5th grade teacher?
naneb - I am trying to use more nonfiction too, my boys almost always read nonfiction when they select their own books
Alta Rose - That sounds great Judy.
brad - I just read the responses to suggested titles and I'm LOL
judy3ca - Alta, it's very good--literate and full of facts.
naneb - that is great, Judy
brad - Okay, I took Alta's color. Be right back.
Erin - These last two weeks have been crazy and I haven't been able to post
cavey - Hey our resident authors are here!!
Kim/1/Ca - Hey ...Brad took my parking place..........what a road hog.
brad - does anyone have this one?
naneb - my 5 really low almost nonreaders all passed their spelling tests today and are reading 2nd grade books and passing the AR tests
naneb - Brad!! Hi
brad - ooh, you can barely read it
Erin - Ooohh Hard to read brad
Kim/1/Ca - Bradley......baby blue just isn't YOU........
Kim/1/Ca - I'm on lesson 10........ they do pretty well with the sorts...... so far so good.......
brad - A spooky Halloween story?
Erin - Well, I'll break the ice. I had my b-day this week
Erin - I now round to 40 with my age
Grace/IL - Shiver my timbers -- it's going to be cold enough Sunday. Nah, for Halloween I usually dressed up as Mr. G. H. Ghost/
brad - happy b-day, erin. so did my son, what day?
cavey - How old Erin?
Alta Rose - Happy Birthday, Erin!
cavey - My daughters is Sunday
Erin - October 8....aahh don't make me say it ...35!!!
Kim/1/Ca - It was sprung on me THIS week that progress reports for first grade are DUE on Monday. I spent the last two days torturing my kids with Open Court Word Lists 1-3, PLUS the "Kinder" words, PLUS about 30 sight words from the "language arts" curriculum........Oh brother..........
cavey - OOH Erin, it all goes south now, Honey
naneb - Oh!! to be 35 again
Grace/IL - Kim, that's TOO MUCH stuff to do!
Alta Rose - Aren't progress report days decided well ahead, Kim!
brad - Here's my spooky story. I was walking by a first grade classroom yesterday, and I heard, "What sound does that letter make?" Student replies with inaudible sound. Teacher responds, "No, it's s-UH" EEEEEE!
Erin - And on that day our Assistant Superintendent met with me and the two elementary principals and reamed my butt...very humiliating and inappropriate
Alta Rose - Oops--Should be a ?
judy3ca - What????? What happened Erin?
naneb - we have report cards next week, I lucky person that I am !! get to print 800 report cards
brad - Erin, that's my son's birthday!!! He was five. We went to Chuck E. Cheez. First time he was ever there.
michelle - Hi! oh, talking age? I'm feeling old. I was just diagnosed with my 2nd ulcer last night.
Kim/1/Ca - Tell me all about it........especially since I have been focusing upon short a and short i.................jeez. They were little bananas by this afternoon.
Erin - Thanks cavey..I feel much better LOL
Grace/IL - What on earth is UH" EEEEEE supposed to be?
Erin - Darn no one took me to Chuck E Cheese
cavey - Brad, you survived Chucky?
Kim/1/Ca - <<shivering (Chuck E. Cheese)
Alta Rose - I think brad added the EEEEE!
brad - EEEEE! was my frightened response as I ran down the hall. She actually told the child to say "suh" for /s/
Erin - Judy, I was in charge of our new standards based report cards. I have been anwering questions and helping anyone who asks. She basically implied that I overstepped my bounds and that if I want to be an administrator I have to remember who's boss
michelle - I have progress reports due monday too. Guess what I'm doing this weekend
Erin - I hate Chuck E Cheese!!!!!!!!!!!!
cavey - Ouch Erin!
cavey - Chuck E. is a casino for kids.
brad - No wonder these kids can't blend.
judy3ca - Ouch, Erin, don't you just love it when admins are so darned ungrateful and obnoxious. Sorry you were the object of the idiocy.
Kim/1/Ca - Oh yes.....decided well ahead, but I was TOLD they were a simple little checklist........nothing to stress over. I had the stomach cramps for two days and seriously considered walking out on this contract for the first time.
Grace/IL - EEEEEK!
Erin - Did this in front of three administrators who agreed with me...then came to my classroom to explain she only did it because she felt I had a lot of potential for administration and wanted me to learn...some kind of lesson I guess.
Erin - My principal was very supportive thank goodness
michelle - he sounds a bit insecure, erin
Erin - Oh KIm I'm sorry
brad - Erin, did you learn your lesson? LOL
judy3ca - Erin, do you want admin?
michelle - she, I mean
brad - That's what I thought Grace
Erin - Yes, I did
Kim/1/Ca - Erin.......I am so sorry. What a jerk. Or, as one of my kids said last year, "the G-word."
brad - I'll bet it's not the lesson THEY thought you were learning though
Erin - Judy, I am in the process of getting my admin credential and master's. Should be done in the summer
judy3ca - ROFLMAO
Erin - As my principal said, "Her ego got in the way."
Erin - LOL brad. Exactly
brad - OF their egos, I'm sure
judy3ca - oops, that laughing was to Kim. Erin, good for you! We need some people like you and Brad who can think in admin.
michelle - what's the "p word" in spanish? my son's friend says "my brother says the P word!!" I couldn't ask him to tell me what it is
Kim/1/Ca - yeah, she TRIPPED over it on the way in............
naneb - brb
brad - not sure of spelling, so phonetically--poo-toe?
judy3ca - puta means prostitute
Erin - I love the "f" word...fart
Grace/IL - Kim and whoever else, I always called progress report weekend my witchy weekend. Everybody had to stay away from me.
Erin - Exactly Kim
Kim/1/Ca - I know how to say it but I might get bleeped. Is this a bilingual filter..........?
Kim/1/Ca - that's it, brad..........LOL
michelle - the "s" word is shut up.
brad - bilingual?? h e l l no
cavey - Oh give it a shot Kim and see what happens
Kim/1/Ca - Funny story...........sorta.
michelle - oh, yeah. but where would a 4 yr old pick up "puta"? I hope his dad's not calling his mom that
Kim/1/Ca - My sister came down last week cuz she was worried about me. Had to come "mother" me...........she went to school with me 2 Mondays ago........
judy3ca - Michelle, prostitute was my polite translation--think worse names for a female.
Kim/1/Ca - So, I explain the the class that she is my sister. We mention this several times.
cavey - got it Judy, and I don't speak spanish
michelle - oh, I know a funny true story about "puta"
Kim/1/Ca - Later in the day, one of my kids asks if she is my "fren" and she says, "No........ Mrs. L......is my SISTER." This kid doesn't miss a beat: YOU MEANS YOU GOT THE SAME DADDY?"
brad - LOL, Did you say, "Yeah, he's mines"
michelle - a ER dr. was trying to help a Spanish-speaking woman deliver a baby in the back seat of the car...she arrived in full labor.....and he thought he knew some spanish and yelled "Puta! Puta!", thinking he was saying "Push!Phush!"
naneb - Did they ask if you stay in the same place?
cavey - LOL Kim at least they didn't think you were her mother
brad - Mines do!
Erin - Oh no Michelle...
Kim/1/Ca - LOL Cavey.......yeah, she would have loved that..........
Grace/IL - This is getting bad!!!
judy3ca - michelle, the joke is great, but "phush" is fabulous!
michelle - true story! my friend's mom works in ER
Alta Rose - I need some laughs tonight. I had a terrible day today....
michelle - oops....
brad - Yeah, I would just love to see someone reading the professional reading archive and following our discussion of puta
michelle - i don't have enough TIME to proofread!
cavey - Hello Help- don't mean to be rude
Kim/1/Ca - I have had a terrible week and next week looks even worse. I have a crate plus a tub of things to do this weekend.........
Erin - Perhaps that title of prof reading is misleading
Alta Rose - We had a day off, or I should say I was supposed to, because I sure didn't....
michelle - well, i spent 4 hours in urgent care last night. It's sure good to be here tonight.
naneb - I had a good day today, first day with no student teacher
Erin - Maybe we should preface that at some point in time we have done professional reading but are not at this moment
brad - LOL, Nan speaks.
Erin - What happened Michelle
Kim/1/Ca - What's happening with the student teacher, Nan?
Grace/IL - Read a cute one today, too -- rather long but the gist is here: A husband and wife went to the hospital to have her baby and the doctor said he had a new technique that would transfer part of the pain to the husband.
brad - I think you just did Erin
judy3ca - (((michelle)))
Alta Rose - What was supposed to be a 10 minute job finishing a Special Needs IPP turned into 5 hours because of the disk I was given to work on....
michelle - we had Statewide Teacher Inservice today. Easy day, no kids.
cavey - Yes, Erin, I agree
brad - we have that next friday michelle
judy3ca - (((Alta))))
Kim/1/Ca - Oh jeez, Alta............(sympathy)
michelle - I had to get this ulcer diagnosed. It was killing me. I was in so much pain it was distressing my son.
naneb - she is finished, her final evaluation was actually pretty good, she did it just like I told her too and it was good
Erin - Oh Alta, don't you love when computers are not a bit helpful
Grace/IL - So they transferred 10 percent of the pain and he was very comfortable.
Alta Rose - I was in tears by the time I got home, as I have another one to do tomorrow, and I really need a break!
naneb - We were suppose to have inservice Monday but because of the hurricanes we have school
Erin - ((Michelle))
Grace/IL - Then 20 percent, 50 percent, etc.
Alta Rose - My principal is going to get an earful on Tuesday morning!
Kim/1/Ca - <<<bated breath, Grace (baited breath? bayted breath?)
Grace/IL - Everything went off without a hitch and they took the baby home.
Alta Rose - The one I have to do tomorrow is what I was hoping to get done today.
Grace/IL - Only to find the mailman dead on the porch.
Erin - ROFLOL Grace
naneb - ROFLOL!!!
cavey - LOL Grace!
Kim/1/Ca - ROFLOL Grace...............(seriously......the dogs are licking my face)
Grace/IL - Oops! The pain was transferred to the father.
cavey - We got it Grace!
Kim/1/Ca - Alta........I DO so very seriously UNDERSTAND how you feel. Let's have a glass of wine.
michelle - geez....that took me a minute to get that joke, grace.
naneb - I gave a quiz today to my 8th graders all about the theme of Shiloh, this has been the main focus of discussion and they acted like they had never heard about it at all!!
brad - Cheers!
Erin - Glasses raised to Alta
Alta Rose - Sounds good, Kim!
Kim/1/Ca - Oh, Nan............yeah.
cavey - There's nothing like wine for a whine!! Make mine Chardonnay!
naneb - They found examples in the text, we charted them, discussed them, geez!!
michelle - I'd love to share a glass of wine with y'all....but I probably shouldn't.
Kim/1/Ca - I only have white zin...........for cooking purposes, you know.
Alta Rose - My daughter phoned me at school and I told her things weren't going well and I was very upset. I came home to supper cooked and a nice clean house! Hubby gave me his shoulder to cry on!
Erin - I had "can't" written on the board and asked what kind of word it was...one child raises his hand and says "pearl" HUH???? Finally someone clarifies "plural" Still completely wrong
Grace/IL - Just had to go check the news. There was a terrible crash in WI today, over 30 vehicles melted together.
brad - Nan, I love when I literally give away the answer to the first problem, and a few STILL miss it (not counting the few that come up right after and say, "Now what do we do here?")
michelle - here's my glass of sparkling cider raised!
naneb - I went to Olive Garden tonight already drank 1/2 a bottle of wine!!
Kim/1/Ca - Yeah, Nan.......it is the same thing that happens when they are in first grade. You talk and talk and talk about rules and procedures.........................then they act like it is NEWS to them when a consequence is enforced.
michelle - Sadie! How do you say "whine" in Spanish? I was trying to explain it to my son's friend.
naneb - Yea!! Alta Rose!! Give him a hug for us!!
Kim/1/Ca - AND you are coherent, Nan? (sp error sorry Grace)
naneb - Kim, it isthe same in Middle School, Oh, that is for me too??
Erin - Kim...you mean you are not supposed to get up and sharpen your pencil when the teacher is talking. Surprise, surprise
Grace/IL - Good for you, nan
michelle - oh, wow, grace. That's incredible.
naneb - Lots of food to go with it, smallish bottle, just 2 glasses each
brad - My friend who switched to intermediate this year said that she told the students to place their paper in the tray when they come in, and they JUST DID IT. LOL, she said in first, that would've been the first two months.
Alta Rose - brb...Going to put son to bed and get a drink.
Kim/1/Ca - OMG, Grace! 30 cars?
Glenda 1st TN - Hi everyone.
Grace/IL - Fog along Lake Michigan and people driving to fast.
Kim/1/Ca - bring me one, alta........
cavey - Hey Glenda!
naneb - I have a piece of white chocolate, rasperry cheesecake sitting in a togo box, i had to have it!!
cavey - I'll bring you one when I get my refill Kim, brb
Kim/1/Ca - Sounds like Californians in the central valley............tule (tooley) fog....................horrible crashes all the time.
michelle - Hi Glenda!
brad - mmmm, can i have a bite, nan?
Grace/IL - It's a gory situation. I'm sure it will make the national news everywhere.
Sadie T - Michelle (slow 'cause I'm trying to catch up on the discussion) whine.... quejarse ?
Sadie T - Kim, DON'T EVEN MENTION tule fog...
Kim/1/Ca - Oh yeah, they are STILL handing me their homework in the morning. (Place your homework in the BLUE tub on top of the cubbies)
naneb - I think it will be breakfast!! I ate mussels, shrimp, crawfish and linguine Yum!!
brad - where does "tule" originate?
Sadie T - Grace, that's horrible - I hadn't heard about it
Erin - Kim...some are still like that in 3rd
Kim/1/Ca - <<<<<<<<<<<retracting any mention of TULE FOG. (ducking to avoid Sadie who obviously hates TULE FOG)
naneb - We have an antique car show here this week called Cruisin The Coast, we went to look at cars
Erin - I didn't bring home my notebook... I forgot...
Sadie T - Thank you Kim
Kim/1/Ca - Started Reader's Workshop this week. Love it.............lots.
Glenda 1st TN - Grace, I think I saw it on the news this evening. Weren't there over 30 people injured and a horrible fire too>
judy3ca - tule is a bush--another Spanish origin I'll bet
michelle - I have a kid who has lost 2 writing journals already this year...and the journals aren't supposed to leave the room!
brad - Kim, "Today as the bonus word in spelling, I decided to give them my name." They all complained, "We don't know how to spell your name!" It's only been on the morning message every FREAKING day this year. (and yes, I got a touch sarcastic, and said, "Well I know how to spell yours." (he had a sarcastic tone too, so there (tongue stuck out))
Kim/1/Ca - ya THINK, Judy...........?
naneb - Grace, have you ever heard of a program called Rewards from Sopris West?
michelle - Hi Diane!
Grace/IL - At least 9 dead and 34 injured.
michelle - Did you do anything today for Inservice?
Kim/1/Ca - I have a kid who keeps LOSING parts of his glue sticks. I am very afraid to look inside his desk. I think there are rats living in there.
Glenda 1st TN - Hi Diane.
brad - KIm, please, hush your mouth
judy3ca - Hi Diane!!!!!!!!
Erin - Brad, every freaking day....and you expect them to know it. You're a bit unreasonable don't you think
judy3ca - Kim, oh, keep me laughing!!!!!
Grace/IL - I know of Sopris West but not about that program. They also do "Language" by Jane Fell Greene.
Kim/1/Ca - Hey.........we just call them class pets. make use of those disasta desks, I say!
naneb - I am going for a 2 day training in the program, it is for multisyllable word decoding
Kim/1/Ca - Have you SEEN "Language!" Grace?
michelle - at the end of the last school year, I had to clean out one of my students' desks....I found 5 cereal containers! I kept expecting something to come out and bite me
brad - like tupperware, michelle?
cavey - Hi diane! Here you go Kim... White Zin because you're so sweet
judy3ca - like milk?
Erin - The worst I had was when I took over a kindergarten class. We were cleaning out cubbies in June and i said "What is that smell?" Well it was a container of chocolate milk in a kid's cubby who had left the school in January
Grace/IL - tule -- from Spanish -- either of two large New World bulrushes (Scirpus californicus and S. acutus) growing on overflowed land. So what has that to do with fog?
Kim/1/Ca - Yeah, they tell RIVETING stories about how Al and Hal JAM on their SAX and JAB each other a lot.......... and L.A. County thinks this the ANSWER to all their literacy woes!!!
brad - Nan, you'll let me in on what you discover, right?? LOL
naneb - ewwwwww!!!
Sadie T - Nan, I know a little about Rewards - the training will be good
michelle - no, those little plastic packages that individual portions of cereal come in. We have free breakfast here
Grace/IL - I've seen "Language" but haven't gone into it in depth. It does have decodable text.
brad - Oh, gross, Erin. I"m vomiting just thinking of it.
Erin - LOL just a little something to go with the wine and cheesecake
Alta Rose - Erin--That reminds me of when my daughter was in kindergarten. After school, we are driving to the city and she says, "Mr. Principal gave me a token for ice cream at lunch time for my birthday!" and pulled out what used to be a fudgesicle!
Sadie T - I use parts of it, but my students don't know the meanings of a lot of the words, and I hate to teach decoding with words they don't understand. With your students, Nan, I think it would be good
diane, - back again...computer booted me off again
naneb - Brad, this is one more scripted program!! i think the 4 blocks and Phongraphix things I am doing are going to work a lot better, but it is a 2 day trip out of town
brad - Kim, I'm following a couple conversations. Who tells the Riveting Stories and Is California's Panacea?
Erin - Alta...Roflol
Kim/1/Ca - That is an understatement, Grace.......................it is so dry you can mop up those moldy first grade desks with it.........
michelle - reminds me of how every phonics program or series has some sort of pig doing a jig. The pig did jig!
judy3ca - Alta, ROFL
brad - LOL, a nice scenic drive can be refreshing, nan. LOL
michelle - that's the only time the kids will EVER in their lives use the word "jig"
naneb - I think I will use it with my 8th graders
Kim/1/Ca - With envigorating, appealing, and delightful black and white line drawings of people (I think) jamming on saxes and jabbing each other a lot.
Erin - Oh come on michelle...I always dance a jig
Erin - Jabbing with the saxes
brad - Begorrah, Michelle. I jig often after pickin' the taters.
judy3ca - with a pig, no doubt
Sadie T - Rewards is a bit different - presents prefixes and suffixes as sight words (or "sight parts" I guess)
Kim/1/Ca - and the fat cat sat on the mat with the bat and his hat and then moved into the vat
brad - "Mr. Johnson, what's a vat?"
Kim/1/Ca - they jab after they jam
cavey - with his friend Nat
Erin - They invited Pat
naneb - I got into a schema discussion with another teacher today, her clas is reading Julie of the Wolves and she didn't understand why they didn't like or seem able to understand it at all, I mean this is South Mississippi, most of these kids have never lived anywhere else, what do they know about snow and cold and eskimoes?? No schema!!
Grace/IL - How about Matt taking off the gas cap and putting gas in his van (leaving out the non-phonetic words, of course.
brad - Exactly nan. It's hard to read stuff about farms to my group of inner city students. No schema.
Kim/1/Ca - I am doing spelling dictation with them and and say PIP and the kids ask..........."what's a pip?" and of course the BOOK was on the table.........so I tell them Gladys Knight's sons.
naneb - I like how 4 blocks teaches prefixes and suffixes with the Nifty 50 words, lots more fun and the kids would transfer to their reading
Alta Rose - Lol, Kim!
cavey - LOL KIM
brad - That's fine, Grace. Truly the kids don't seem to mind these decodable texts. I guess it's just us who hates them, don't you think?
Alta Rose - And here it's just the opposite. We have lots of farm kids.
Kim/1/Ca - with Al and Sam and their pet ram and friend Vam
brad - That's what you find in orange juice, Kim. A pip. (LOL, childhood)
naneb - Like the old Merrill books, I hated them but kids liked them and learned to read
brad - I like the mystery word matches, with Nifty Fifty Nan
Grace/IL - I was talking with Ken Campbell of Great Leaps today and he said we need to write stories for content, then adjust them for readability.
Kim/1/Ca - they didn't know RILL either..........I love expanding their horizons.
Erin - My kids are finally getting over that they eat a cow when they eat hamburger...I burst their little fast food bubble
Kim/1/Ca - Joy Cowley (Wright Group) does that very well........I think.
judy3ca - rill???????????
naneb - me too, Brad last year we played for points and candy
Grace/IL - Richard Venezky says kids don't care about great stories. They just want to be able to read.
Kim/1/Ca - GRACE! (Hand waving wildly to tattle)...........Judy doesn't know RILL!!!
michelle - Kim, I agree about that. but the problem with Cowley books, they are hard to discuss. There's nothing for schema with Dan the Flying Man.
brad - In that McGuinness book I'm reading, she transcribes a "decodable" text story from a particular reading program (name escapes me, but one she endorsed) and it was not boring at all. Which proves what you're saying Grace.
cavey - I agree Kim- love that Wishy Washy
Alta Rose - The Sunshine Books I use for Home Reading are written by Joy Cowley.
judy3ca - LOL, Kim, what is it?
diane, - i don't know rill either
Grace/IL - Yep, Kim, I like that 'rill' word -- I love thy rocks and rills, thy woods and templed hills. See, it teaches the children about a famous song.
Kim/1/Ca - True..........(head hung, feet shuffling)........Grace and Michelle are right.
naneb - Grace, I know that this is true, I have been using the reading a-z books with my lowest readers and they are thrilled to be able to read! They will read their newest book to anyone
judy3ca - phew, thanks, diane
Kim/1/Ca - Builds SCHEMA
michelle - I WISH I were dan the flying man. He has lots of fun and makes lots of friends
Kim/1/Ca - I would NEVER want to be Mrs. Wishy Washy...........ew.
cavey - I'
brad - And some of those lower a to z books are truly (shall we say?) lacking as far as content.
Grace/IL - A rill is a little stream.
Grace/IL - A rill is a little stream.
cavey - I'd rather be a meany!
naneb - a rill is a brook-- babbling preferably!!
judy3ca - Diane, since Kim isn't sharing....it's a very small brook.
Kim/1/Ca - Grace gave you a context clue..........
michelle - Hi, my name is Michelle and I don't know rill either
Kim/1/Ca - Yeah, the MEANIES rock!
Grace/IL - Good for you, nan (again)
brad - So Grace, these people you were talking too, what do they suggest again? (scrolling fast)
naneb - no kidding Brad, mine are on E - J now, so they are a little better
judy3ca - Kim, LOL, that wasn't nearly enough of a context clue for me!
Kim/1/Ca - Nan, is your husband's name Dan and does he have a pan and a fan?
cavey - Hey, you know lime sherbet and coke looks like bath water
naneb - husband Mike!!
brad - They get good right about F or G and then for some reason they just skyrocket in value, and I really love them (so do kids)
Erin - My husband is Mike, too
brad - Cavey, are we boring you?
judy3ca - cavey, don't tempt me......
naneb - lime sherbet and just about anything looks like bath water
Grace/IL - Brad, Great Leaps is a fluency program and is getting some good press. He was talking about ways to make decodable text interesting.
Kim/1/Ca - Mike and His Bike
cavey - No Brad- the meanies drink their bath water!!!
judy3ca - too true, Nan
Erin - I like Mike and his bike and his cousing Ike
brad - is there a site, grace?
michelle - you have some icky bath water, cavey.
brad - I was just looking up the level for that book, today, Kim.
naneb - I have an 8th grader who is about 2nd grade level reading, when he found out I wrote AR tests for those books he started reading and testing like crazy
Alta Rose - brb...
Erin - Actually he rides a trike and fishes for pike
Kim/1/Ca - Cool, Nan........what books are you and Brad talking about?
brad - Judy, do you own F and P's Matching Books to Readers?
michelle - oh, it's been a while since i read the Meanies. I forgot.
Grace/IL - Brad, there's a website but I haven't even brought my stuff in from the car. I'll post is sometime soon on the PR board.
naneb - I have heard good things about Great Leaps, it is very popular on ldonline
diane - okay, i got booted again, did i miss the definition of rill?
naneb - reading a-z books
cavey - Whew, finally someone who got it!! Thanks, Michelle!
brad - thanx grace. I'm really getting into this emergent/early literacy since I'm teaching this low now. There's so much I didn't know about phonemic awareness and such.
Grace/IL - It was fun to talk with the author of GL. He's very passionate about what he does.
Sadie T - Yes, Diane, you missed it. Sorry...
cavey - Yeah Brad, learn about meanies!
Grace/IL - diane, a babbling brook or little stream
brad - I made up my little "Sound Song" this week and the kids ADORE it. We even "performed" for my hall partner's class.
judy3ca - Brad, yes, of course I have that book, LOL.
michelle - I miss teaching reading to emergent readers. I really like that part of teaching first grade.
Erin - Husband just got home. I"ll try and come back later.
diane - thanks grace...phbbbtttt, sadie
cavey - Brad , you sing too?
Sadie T - Brad, what's your "sound song"?
naneb - Michelle, come teach special ed you can teach it all through the grades
brad - How does it differ from the back section of the white book? (and you know what I'm talking about when I say white book)
Kim/1/Ca - Was THAT the racket we heard this morning, Brad ? YOU singing?
michelle - I plan to teach Title 1 reading as soon as a position opens
michelle - it has a lot more books listed, for one thing, brad
Grace/IL - But about decodable text. I did a whole presentation on it at Illinois Reading Council last year. It was great fun. You talk about pin and show the children all kinds of pins -- a rolling pin, a straight pin, a diaper pin, a cotter pin --- keep going here. It really can expand their thinking.
judy3ca - You mean the F&P book?
michelle - I have all the F & P books.
judy3ca - more books listed
cavey - Gotta go. Going to Busch Gardens tomorrow. Away from sniper land!
Glenda 1st TN - Oh, Grace. I spend all of my time teaching my students how to say "pen" and "pin".
Grace/IL - And then we talked about pan -- and one lady told me I forgot to add a bed pan.
judy3ca - bye cavey
Kim/1/Ca - Some of mine can't hear the difference between PIN and PEN........found that out this week.
michelle - bye, cavey! have fun
Alta Rose - Take Care, Cavey. Stay safe!
brad - It's more like a "rap." We move through the alphabet making the sounds for the sound pictures (letters) with some cute little raps or mnemonics to remember the sounds. For example, short a /a/ is "Crybaby A, Crybaby A, /a/, /a/, /a/" with our hands wiping away tears. It moves very quickly and they already almost have it memorized. I find myself referrring to it a lot. It's really helped us develop a common language AND I hear them reciting it in the bathroom. (This is MONUMENTAL breakthrough for my academically lethargic class)
naneb - In Mississipi they sound exactly the same, pin and pen
Sadie T - Bye Cavey!
cavey - Goodnight !
michelle - that's common here, kim. I think that many people don't pronounce it correctly around here anyway.
Grace/IL - And you can have an ink pen and a chicken pen and a pig pen and -----
Sadie T - Brad, that IS a breakthrough!!
Kim/1/Ca - SHARE, Brad!!!
Glenda 1st TN - Nan, It is the same in TN.
brad - Around here they sound the same too. My kids think I'm wierd because I say pen. They also think I'm wierd because I say "cray-on" instead of "crown" Literally, ask me to say it so they can laugh.
Grace/IL - pin and pen are just like leg and laig in our part of the country. I told the kiddos they may have had an aig for breakfast but they needed to say egg in class so they learned the sound, then go home and say aig again.
brad - You'd have to see it, Kim. I could send it, but. . . it's all in the performance. LOL. maybe I should have nan post a tape of my class doing it.
naneb - Brad, you record and I will post it!!
Glenda 1st TN - Grace, I tell my students almost the very same thing.
Grace/IL - Brad, copyright it and make yourself a bundle when you sell it.
brad - We've only been doing it since Monday, and three classes have asked us to do it.
Sadie T - A bundle of what?
michelle - i think people pronounce it "aig" here mostly, too.
Kim/1/Ca - Make a tape, Brad...........MY class can learn it from YOUR class!
Grace/IL - Whatever, Sadie
brad - I actually "stole" the idea from a teacher I saw perform it in university. Hers is copyrighted and I can't remember it, so I just made up my own.
Sadie T - No "aigs" here, but we write with pins
brad - So is it just around here or is it "crown" for you all to refer to what you color with.
michelle - it's a cray-on here, like you, brad
Kim/1/Ca - here it is "cran"
brad - I actually have a copy of hers, and she's a phenomenal first grade teacher with lots of energy and she's now presenting nationally.
Alta Rose - We say "crayon" and "pen."
Sadie T - Here we use cray-ons, Brad
Glenda 1st TN - Well, we turn "own" the lights
Sadie T - Sometimes my students ask for a "crayola," but I think that's a Spanish thing
naneb - we use cray-ons too
diane . - okay...i'm getting frustrated...anyone know why i keep getting booted off?
michelle - diane, are you ok?
Kim/1/Ca - Oh brother, Sadie......(sniff)
michelle - I'm glad you keep trying, diane!
michelle - wow, diane, you have a twin!
Kim/1/Ca - I have had this problem before diane...............could be server problems............
brad - Another question about teaching sounds. What do you say is the sound of the letter W and Y, Grace
Sadie T - Didn't mean to make you cry, Kim...
diane . - well, i do have a touch of flu, michelle, but i don't think my computer knows that...
naneb - mine usually ask for a marker
judy3ca - Isn't a lot of the language you're discussing sort of developmental? I remember my son said 'crown' for a while and then grew out of it.
Kim/1/Ca - I mean, NOT Sadie.............Oh brother, ALTA Rose with the perfect pronunciating kids.........
michelle - sometimes they just call them "colors"...."Do you have any colors I can borrow?"
brad - not around here judy
Grace/IL - Back when television was new, everyone though we'd have a universal language, the language of TV. We surely do have one from that medium and it's all swear words.
michelle - sorry to hear that diane. Did you take today to rest?
Alta Rose - Well, not all the time, Kim...
brad - Michelle I find that with the Spanish speaking, "colors"
Kim/1/Ca - I think so, Judy, to a large extent..........some is cultural.
Sadie T - Yes, mine say "colors" too
diane . - i did, michelle, i missed out on the math conference i was going to go to
Grace/IL - Actually, there was a message out of Britain that says w and y are vowels --oooh-uh and eee-uh. It does make sense.
diane . - did you have a good inservice day, michelle?
Alta Rose - What drives me crazy is when I hear, "How much crayons do you have?"
brad - Grace, that's what I've been teaching
judy3ca - at least they say 'have' and not 'got'
michelle - oh, that big one in portland? one of the speakers there did a demo in my room yesterday.
naneb - I usually teach the as vowels, a-e-i-o-u and sometimes y and w
diane . - that was the one...
Alta Rose - I should have typed, "got" Judy! Lol!
judy3ca - michelle, tell us about that.....
Kim/1/Ca - HUH? I thought W only acted as a vowel when following "o" in yellow, window, willow, etc.
Glenda 1st TN - Grace, I'm afraid I don't understand the sounds you mentioned for w and y. Could you try to explain it again?
michelle - We get paid for inservice in my district, so I had to do some sort of inservice. So my grade level team used the time to explore our new math adoption
brad - Just checking with you. For W we say, "W. Tiny round lips" and then make a sound like oo-uh with not so much uh. For Y we say, People think Yuh, but it's really eee-uh. Again, with not so much empahsis on the uh.
brad - Nan, think about it, say "wet." Your mouth really says something like /oo/ /e/ /t/
Kim/1/Ca - Y is "yuh" short little sound, not much uh.........what are you talking about,,,,,,,,,eeeee uh?
Grace/IL - When one says "wait," for example, it's almost like ooo-ait
diane . - how was the demo?
brad - And when you say "yellow" it's like /ee/ /e/ /l/ /oe/
naneb - crown, town, down, mow, stow throw
michelle - We are implementing Investigations for the first time this year, and our district is providing tons of support. Yesterday, all the 3rd grade teachers came to my room to watch the Lady (who is wonderful) demo one of the lessons
judy3ca - cool, michelle! Did you kids act like they usually do?
brad - The /ee/ is a very tiny sound, almost imperceptible (sp?)
diane . - i used investigations during my student teaching in portland; it was definitely better than what i have now...
judy3ca - that would be 'your'
Sadie T - With "true vowels" though, you can hold the sound for a long time... aaaaaa, eeeeeee, you can't say wwwww or yyyyyy
Glenda 1st TN - Okay, I get it. Those are the consonant sounds. What Vowel sounds do you teach for y?
Grace/IL - ow is a diphthong representing two sounds, ah-oo and long o
Kim/1/Ca - Major schema reconfiguration problems here...........................................
brad - For "W": you say /oo/, For Y you say /ee/. It just is easier when you get to spelling with more advanced code. Now y at the end of happy and party make sense don't they?
michelle - well, we had to totally rearrange our schedule for the demo, which ended up being at the end of the day. The kids did pretty well, but were real antsy toward the end.
Kim/1/Ca - ow like in OUCH right GRace?
brad - It made perfect sense to me, which is why I adopted that way of teaching it this year
Kim/1/Ca - well yes but what about Sunday and everyday?
judy3ca - Good night, phonics phriends.
naneb - that is a digraph -ay is long a
brad - LOL, Judy, you can tell when I get on a kick
diane . - good night, judy
Glenda 1st TN - Brad, I teach Y is a consonant at the beginning of a word. But it can say the short i, long i and long e sound as well.
Sadie T - Ooops, you can see yyyyy if you use the sound in "party." But wwww?
Grace/IL - It's interesting with final y. In two syllable words, linguists would have us pronounce it short i; traditionalists would pronounce it lone e.
Sadie T - I mean, you can *say* yyyy
brad - W is only a vowel when spelled "ow" which is an advanced code spelling for /oe/ (long o)
naneb - Phonographix teaches all the ways to say long a at one time, ai(in the middle), ay(at the end) and a_e
Grace/IL - ow as in ouch, yes and o as in grow.
Grace/IL - Kim, ay is a sound pattern in itself -- usually at the end of a word or syllable.
brad - Sadie and Glenda. Even when Y is used as a so-called consonant, you are still saying /ee/. Say "Yes" to yourself. If you break it down into phonemes, you
brad - re saying /ee/ /e/ /s/
Kim/1/Ca - vowel digraph........right?
naneb - Kim, yes a vowel digraph
Alta Rose - I don't hear the /ee/ , brad.
Kim/1/Ca - Your tongue is really close to the roof of your mouth when you say Yes......... /ee/ /e/ /s/
Glenda 1st TN - Brad, are you saying that you only make 2 sounds when you say "you'? I say all 3.
michelle - I don't think it's the same, brad.
brad - you still get that little "yuh" sound everyone teaches in the mouth change between /ee/ and /e/
Sadie T - Me neither Alta
michelle - i think there are only 2 sounds in "you". how does it sound with 3?
Kim/1/Ca - LOL Glenda........y'all has 3 phonemes
Grace/IL - For "you", I can hear eee-ooo put together really fast.
brad - No, I'm saying "you" has two phonemes /ee/ /oo/ The first /ee/ is spelled "y" The second /oo/ is spelled "ou"
Kim/1/Ca - Alta........practice it out loud. Say yes very slowly and listen for the first sound...............
brad - Alta, in some dialects, it's almost imperceptible, but it's there.
brad - I think you've got it now Kim
Glenda 1st TN - OOPs, I didn't mean yes. I meant I make 3 sounds in yes.
michelle - /ee/ /oo/ to me sounds like "ew!"
naneb - where did Judy go?
Alta Rose - I'm doing that Kim, and I can hear it now, but I don't think I say it that way!
michelle - you know, like if something stinks, you say "eww!"
brad - SAy it quicker Michelle
diane . - she logged off quickly, nan
michelle - there's a difference between the sound of ew and you.
naneb - thanks, diane
brad - It's very quick, but I think it's going to make the Y easier to blend and make more sense in spelling than saying "yuh"
Grace/IL - A female sheep is a ewe. There's a yew tree. And I like you. All have the same pronunciation.
Kim/1/Ca - more emphasis on the /ee/ sound, michelle....with your tongue up top of the roof of your mouth ..... You THINK you are saying /yuh/ but you are really saying /ee/ .........listen.
naneb - we need voice chat
michelle - yes, ewe and you are the same, but neither sound like ew
Kim/1/Ca - Dag..........I learned something tonight!
brad - And for the W, start to say it, but stop yourself before you fully complete it. You'll notice your lips go to that tiny round formation like for /oo/
michelle - ok, ok. I'm trying to remember from my linguistics class, and I don't remember a separate phoneme for "y"
Kim/1/Ca - Yup.....you're right Brad..........
brad - If we tell kids, when they come to "wet" to get your mouth ready and they put their lips in tiny round formation instead of "wuh" /e/ /t/, we might actually get /oo/ /e/ /t/ which will be easier to blend with the vowel than "wuh"
Glenda 1st TN - Your right brad. How do you tell your students to pronounce "wh"?
Glenda 1st TN - I tell my students to blow a feather off their hand.
Alta Rose - How did you figure all this out, brad?
Kim/1/Ca - Our T-1 teacher teaches them to say "wubble you" instead of "double you" so they don't say "duh" for the sound...........LOL
brad - We haven't got to that yet, Glenda, but I'm going to tell them to be a little more breathy. In most dialects, I don't think it's going to make much difference. Primarily it's just an alternate spelling for the "w" sound
Sadie T - Kim, doesn't that just confuse them later?!
michelle - i don't notice that we pronounce "wh" correctly here. I think people just pronounce it "w"
Grace/IL - Remember, linguistics is really theory. Nothing is really set in stone. We can each have our personal theory about how to form the sounds and that's OK as long as we get kids to hear them. Sometimes they can distinguish them only through learning the mouth formations.
brad - It's like when you say, "I hear wuh wuh," my kids would go, "Y!" Now if I say I hear /oo/ maybe they won't say that, cause it doesn't even come close to the letter name Y
Alta Rose - Lol, Kim! And mine always want to put a "y" where there should be a "w."
Kim/1/Ca - Our dept chair told him to knock it off......hee hee hee......
Grace/IL - Regarding "wubble you", just think of the name of the letter w -- double u
michelle - but I tell my kids how it's supposed to be pronounced, so they understand why it's spelled that way.
Kim/1/Ca - or a "yuh" when they see U and then decode "b yuh t"
Sadie T - And students learn to WRITE it as a double v
Grace/IL - I think of the blowing of the feather as the sound for wh.
michelle - not here, we teach D'Nealian, so it is a double u
michelle - but in books, it looks like a double v
brad - Now, like I said, there's no question why my kids can't "sound out" now. They were being taught freakin' buh, duh, and (shiver) suh!
brad - Now who says "suh oap?"
Kim/1/Ca - Somebody's got to stop that woman, Brad............suh indeed....................criminal negligence at worst, incompetence at best.
brad - LOL, Incompetence. Never fails to bring a smile to my face, that word.
Alta Rose - Well, I'm not as linguistically-savey as you guys are, but I can honestly say I don't do the buh, ruh, duh!!!
Grace/IL - Brad, I just posted somewhere this evening about blending the beginning consonant(s) into the vowels. I don't know if it's on the Primary Board or the Main Chatboard.
Glenda 1st TN - Brad, I'm afraid there are a lot of K and first teachers making the "uh" sound at the end of the consonants. Has anyone found a tactful way to get them to stop?
brad - Good for you, Alta. I never picked up on that until a year or two ago. (And I just learned all this other crap in the past couple weeks thanks to Nan and the book I'm reading)
michelle - when i was in first grade, they put everyone through this phonics program before we could attempt to read, but I came to school reading and got very confused at the phonics. I remember asking my mom "what does "ar" mean? what does "ai" mean?
brad - (And Grace too)
Kim/1/Ca - Well, good modeling is ONE way...............worked for me when I entered teaching.
Sadie T - Okay, Brad, but tell me... (still hung up on this y thing), how is "ee-yes" better than "duh-og"?
Alta Rose - Brad, you missed my question: Did you read this somewhere or just figure it out on your own? (The sounds for w, y, etc.)
brad - "Ar" "Ar" "you stick your head in a jelly jar." LOL, That part of her version I remember
Alta Rose - Brad-You just answered my question! What book?
Sadie T - I do hear "ee-yes" when I say it slowly, but if you say each sound of "dog" slowly...
brad - Because it's not ee-yes, it's /ee/ /e/ /s/
Grace/IL - Sadie, because the eee blends into the final s sound (letter name) but duh doesn't blend into og.
Kim/1/Ca - It's not ee-yes, Sadie. It is /ee/ /es/ Just say it to yourself.
Sadie T - But, I don't say /ee/ /e/ /s/ UNLESS I say it very slowly.
Sadie T - I know, I know, I know. I still disagree though!
Grace/IL - Sadie, that
brad - Because when we turn it around and we're encoding, I can say "What sound do you hear at the end of 'party' " and it just might dawn on them "y" (which it most typically is, instead of ee"
Kim/1/Ca - LISTEN to yourself say the Y part of yes very slowly.............what is your mouth really doing?
naneb - the soundreally stops wit the 'd' so it won't blen very well
naneb - wit = with
brad - No, that's where we go back to what Sharon was saying, that instead of onset-rime, we should be starting with everything including vowel and then coda
Sadie T - In phonetics it is writte /jes/ (j = y sound)
brad - ca-ke instead of c-ake
Sadie T - I meant, in linguistics it would be written as /jes/
Grace/IL - Sadie, that's the problem with what are called "stop consonants". When teachers teach "letter sounds" they always want a sound to be heard. There's no sound for b or d; they're just a shape of the mouth that should end (stop) the sound or be combined with the vowel that follows them.
michelle - aha! so the beginning "y" is considered a separate phoneme.
brad - That way you end up with "do" "g" instead of "duh" "og"
Kim/1/Ca - I don't know, Brad........brain is a pattern detector, like Cunnngham says.......c ake makes more sense..................
michelle - I couldn't remember. It's been 11 years since I had to memorize the phonemic alphabet.
brad - and some are saying it is /ee/ Michelle
diane . - i have to agree with you on that one, kim
Sadie T - But, I think it is the same with beginning y - separate sound
brad - I think it's just for those b's and d's and other hard to blend ones, Kim. Or at least that's how I'm employing it
naneb - plus, i think -ake really helps when you try to figure out an unfamiliar word when you are reading
Sadie T - Yes Michelle, in the phonemic alphabet it's separate, /j/
Alta Rose - This is very sad! It's Friday night, and we're arguing about how to pronounce the word "Yes"! (LOL!)
Kim/1/Ca - /ee/ /e/ /s/ ! /ee/ oo/ got it Michelle!
brad - I think it's a different level developmentally maybe, and later you can move to onset-rime, Like a continuum. any other thoughts?
michelle - this is the longest amount of time we've spent on one professional topic in a long time
Glenda 1st TN - Brad, if we taught the onset rimes like the "ca" "ke", would we be able to do our chunck walls?
Kim/1/Ca - I am having a real TIME teaching them to blend consonants...............like pulling teeth.
diane . - yes, nan, i have struggling readers really blossoming by using familiar word patterns in unfamiliar words
brad - Probably not, Glenda
Grace/IL - Not to me, Kim. In the early years they used the syllabarium as ba, be, bi, bo, bu, starting with the beginning sound and the vowel. We really can teach it that way. Sue Dickson did it with her Ferris Wheel song and it's very effective.
Kim/1/Ca - they ignore one or the other.............
Sadie T - If it were /ee/ /e/ /s/ then it would be /ies/ in the phonemic alphabet, not /jes/
brad - Grace, I was thinking of that. Mcguiness mentions it
brad - I wasn't aware of the spellings Sadie is referring to in phonemic alphabet.
Glenda 1st TN - Okay, that settles it. Your onset rimes are out! I just started my chuck wall and the kids love it.
Kim/1/Ca - okay........short vowels?
brad - /jes/? That's three different sounds
Sadie T - Sorry - phonetic alphabet - IPA
Sadie T - International Phonetic Alphabet
michelle - yes, brad, three sounds in yes
naneb - I really use a combination of Phongraphix and onsets and rimes, my kids have gaps in their code knowledge, i just try to fill in the gaps with whatever works with what they know already
brad - What do you think Grace, syllabarium or rimes?
Kim/1/Ca - Your CHUCK wall? LOL Glenda..............pictures of alll the CHUCKS you know?
brad - That's a new one for me Sadie, Thanks
Kim/1/Ca - Prince Charles, Charlie Brown, Ground Chuck.............
michelle - I sold that book back to the college bookstore, the one with the IPA. wish i had it now. it could help me sometimes with my running records
Grace/IL - When was the phonemic alphabet developed? Is it totally legitimate or is it someone's idea of how things should be? Just a question, not a snotty remark.
michelle - i think rimes, but grace is the expert.
brad - As will I Nan, I'd really like a picture of some of the mouth positions though. Maybe poster size. LOL, people will think my room is the speech therapist's
Grace/IL - Brad, both syllabarium and rimes.
Alta Rose - Have you heard of the LIPS program? My friend is using it in her Learning Assistance class.
Sadie T - IPA is *the* alphabet used in linguistics - very legitimate!
brad - but when and for what purpose, grace?
naneb - I have a set of those posters, I have an old speech therapist kit wiht letter, tiles, cards, posters, and felt letters and boards, I use it all of the time
michelle - Grace, I'm pretty sure that it was developed by Linguists and is used in their research regularly. But, like I said, I'm not an expert
Glenda 1st TN - Okay, guys I'm bushed it is chunks.
naneb - Hey, Brad I will bring them home and scan them and send them to you
Grace/IL - There have been so many different alphabets over the years. Some stay but others get lost in the shuffle.
Kim/1/Ca - How come nobody else is interested in Glenda's Chuck Wall?
brad - I'm going to talk about it more next week (mouth positions) I think some of the trouble Mines have spelling is due to improper formation maybe.
naneb - I have heard of LIPS, it is another program discussed a lot at ldonline
Alta Rose - I'm a little slow tonight, Kim...
Grace/IL - Rose, LIPS is part of Lindamood-Bell. It's discussed a lot on the ldonline board.
brad - Only if Walker Texas Ranger is up on that wall, Kim!
michelle - I just haven't heard about them yet, Kim. I'm not without interest!
Alta Rose - OK, so it's not just tonight...
Kim/1/Ca - Chuck Berry, Chuck Finley, Chuck Noblock........
Glenda 1st TN - Thanks Kim. I can tell your a real friend.
brad - Grace, McGuinness liked Lindamood's stuff.
michelle - she said CHUNKS non HUNKS, brad.
Grace/IL - Brad, the syllabarium when you want to incorporate beginning blends and rimes when you want to work with word families. Rimes most of the time but the syllabarium when it's needed.
Alta Rose - Lol, Michelle!
Grace/IL - Yes, more on the chuck wall. We've just been engrossed.
michelle - (my grandma would call Walker Texas Ranger a hunk.)
brad - Chuck NoBlock?
brad - Chuck Woolery (Two and Two)
Alta Rose - Grace, pardon my ignorance: What's the difference between a rime and a word family?
Kim/1/Ca - Some baseball player........Dan the Man's contribution.......he just flew in.
michelle - upchuck?
Glenda 1st TN - You guys are hopeless.
brad - ON his catamaRAN Kim?
naneb - Chucky Cheese
brad - LOL, nan
Kim/1/Ca - No......Dodge Ram
Grace/IL - Brad, I've read McGuinness's book. I think the best part of it is her description of what has to be done with kids. I think my own application of what has to be done is much simpler.
diane . - chuck e cheese
Kim/1/Ca - Aren't rimes word families?
brad - Hey, that's not part of the PLAN
Alta Rose - I always thought, so , Kim, but I'm wondering if tlhere is a difference.
Glenda 1st TN - Kim, I thought they were. Grace???
brad - What was her description, Grace? And why is yours simpler?
Grace/IL - Rose, the rime is the vowel plus ending consonant(s). Word families inclued all the words with the same rimes.
brad - The rime is -ake. The word family is rake, cake, sake, take. . .
Alta Rose - Oh, I see. Thanks.
Kim/1/Ca - OH......the WORDS are the word families.........the rimes are their DNA
brad - I'm AUOI with this phonemic stuff now. LOL
michelle - the rime is -ad, the word family is sad mad dad brad
Glenda 1st TN - Then my chuNk wall is really a rime wall? I have ed, et, up right now.
Kim/1/Ca - their mitochondrial DNA..
Sadie T - Grace, going back to phonemics, I just looked up IPA - used internatinally in linguistics since 1886
brad - I could not have even told you what a freakin dipthong was a few weeks ago
brad - Michelle, My daughter thinks it's funny, when I say, "Too bad, so sad, from your dad, Brad."
Grace/IL - Brad, the first chapters when she talks about not giving up, needing daily practice, etc. I don't necessarily agree with some of her "sound pictures." We don't need to teach dd as in wedding. Teaching the rules for affixing makes more sense to me.
Kim/1/Ca - i love that word...........dip thong...........
michelle - i get confused these days between dipthongs and digraphs!! I just don't use the terminology enough
Grace/IL - oooh, Kim! DNA in phonics. That's great!
brad - I agree with you Grace, I thought that part was a tiny bit obsessive and glazed over it myself
Kim/1/Ca - You're a poet and didn't know it , Brad...............
brad - Kim, I'm wearing mine now
Alta Rose - brb...need more wine
Glenda 1st TN - Oh, Kim don't start with biology. It is a touch subject at my house.
Kim/1/Ca - integrating curriculum, Grace. (smug look)
Sadie T - Something wrong with my computer... going to log off and try again
brad - or maybe I should say, "mines"
naneb - Grace, i agree with you, I don't teach the double dd soud either, I teach the rules for suffixes
michelle - a touch subject...biology. of course
Kim/1/Ca - Don't tease me, Brad..........with your dipthong.
Grace/IL - Thanks, Sadie. I never had a course in linguistics. Kim, it's NOT dip-thong; it's diphthong! But one could go for a dip in a thong, especially in CA.
brad - rime-ug, word family, snug, bug, rug, and Kim's so smug. Why?
Kim/1/Ca - Must be midterms, right, Glenda? A teenager in the house?
brad - Seriously, Grace? But you're so AUOI
Kim/1/Ca - Because I have discovered that Glad Dad Brad is really LONGFELLOW (the poet.......his feet show it..........get it?)
Glenda 1st TN - No, Kim it is the teacher.
michelle - let's see-- -im Tim, whim, dim, Kim?
Sadie - It wouldn't even let me log off, LOL
Kim/1/Ca - Oh, Grace..............dip h thong.......... sigh.
michelle - diane, are you still with us? Hope you haven't been booted off again
brad - I don't think I've ever noticed an "h" in dip-thong
Grace/IL - Kim, I think it must be progress report weekend. This is wonderful; you're really caught up in it.
Kim/1/Ca - Speaking of DIM............I mistakenly shut off the lights when finished in the restroom yesterday....................about got my head bitten off.
Grace/IL - AUOI -- what's that again?
brad - AUOI--
Alta Rose - Oh, Heaven Forbid, Kim!
brad - all up on it
Sadie - AUOI = All Up On It
michelle - all up on it!! NDWI= not down with it
Sadie - LOL Kim
naneb - I will chat with you all next week, have to get to be, I am going to school tomorrow to work on computers
brad - LOL, Kim, I started laughing in the car on the way to work the other day thinking of your encounter
naneb - bye all
michelle - 'night, nan
brad - bye nan
Kim/1/Ca - Oh yeah..........superintendent is PUSHING for conservation big time and I always turn off the lights.......so I DID. I hear this SCREECH "HEY! Somebody's in here!!!"
Sadie - Good night Nan
brad - I can just hear her now
Alta Rose - Goodnight, Nan. I'll be thinking of you when I'm in working on that IPP that should have been done today!
brad - "Hey" "Can't pee in the dark"
Kim/1/Ca - I mean, like, CRIME of the century to pee in the dark! So, I apolgize......."sorry, didn't know anyone was in here..........." and she just SCREECHES at me, "ASK ! ASK if somebody is in here!!! SAY!!!! IS SOMEBODY IN HERE?"
michelle - when i went to Vegas with Eilene and her mom, her mom INSISTED on leaving all the lights in the room on while we were gone. Now, Oregon is a very energy-concious state. So, I'd have to sneak the lights off as we were leaving. It was hard to do sometimes!
Kim/1/Ca - I'm thinkin' that this is a GOOD thing this 'person' is anonymous to me cuz ................ I am thinking she needs a tune up or something........
michelle - I don't think my principal would understand my use of the name for a female dog in my class, grace.
Glenda 1st TN - Kim, maybe she is afraid of the dark.
Kim/1/Ca - Maybe, Glenda.......hence the frightened overkill response.........................it has to be that and not just general cockiness, right?
Glenda 1st TN - Well, now I wouldn't go that far to take up for her.
Kim/1/Ca - I am such a rebel, though.............
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