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Emma - Well, I guess it is okay to begin the official meeting now. Just to introduce myself, my name is Emma McDonald and I am one of the co-authors of the book, SURVIVAL KIT FOR NEW TEACHERS. My teaching partner, Dyan Hershman and I also have a web site for new teachers that provides mentoring and other resources for new teachers in addition to moderating this monthly chat. Our web site is Beginning Teacher's Tool Box and the address is http://www.inspiringteachers.com
Emma - This month's meeting will be all about what we can do to get ready for the school year. I thought it might be a good idea to focus on supplies since that has really been an issue with a lot of new teachers on the Mail Ring.
DYAN - Hello everyone! Emma and I are here today to offer tips and advice about preparing for the beginning of school. If any of you veteran teachers that have joined us would like to offer advice, you are more than welcome too!
liz/AK - Do you have to be an incredibly creative person to get your room set up? I try, but I'm not terribly artistic.
Jess - Bulletin board ideas that aren't the same old same old?
Marc CT - How about getting students to do it?
Emma - Okay, where to start? Well, how many of you have gotten any kind of supplies yet?
Jess - good idea, but what? let them decide that too?
Art2 - I have ordered all my art supplies already. First day of school is July 30
DYAN - Liz- No! You don't have to be artistic to have a great looking room! I am not at all! I just asked around and got lots of great ideas from other teachers for my bulletin boards, etc..Why reinvent the wheel?
Jess - I spent 23$ today on supplies, but that doesn't even come close to helping me get a completely EMPTY room up and running. Where do I start?
Ga. Teacher - I would like some ideas on how I should arrange the desk for a fourth grade class. I thought about grouping the desk or maybe the u shape for the desk. Any advice?
cj - today I bought some posters and such,wasn't sure what else to buy at this point, any ideas would be helpful
Emma - It is a good idea to call your school secretary and find out what kind of supplies your school will have available for you. Many schools already have things like butcher paper, borders, die-cuts for letters, construction paper, office supplies, etc.
Jess - I don't get a startup budget, just $200 for the whole year, and that's supposed to cover EVERYTHING!!!!!! including paper, pencils, etc.
DYAN - Jess - make sure to check with your school secretary to see what the school provides for you before you spend all of your own money!
liz/AK - Jess-Have you thought of maybe using colorful fabric as a background for bulletin boards or drab looking cabinets that need color? I'm sure people have scraps that they would donate.
Art2 - It could be that veteran teachers have an oversupply of decoration items they will share
Emma - Ga Teacher - The U shape is a nice one because you can have easy access to all of your students. The only thing I found with that was that it takes up a lot space. If you have a small room, it might be better to arrange your desks in a table format.
Jess - good idea, who do I ask for that sort of stuff?
becca - Ga-I used U shape in a second grade class and loved it KW- East TN
DYAN - O.K. Well, start with the cheap stuff, Jess, get crates and manilla folders from Walmart to help you started getting organzined! You can make mailboxes out of the crates and those green hanging folders.
Emma - Art2 - Yes, yes, yes! Veteran teachers often leave their extra supplies in the Teacher Lounge, Workroom, or School LIbrary.
liz/AK - Jess-Did you take any pictures of different rooms and bulletin boards? They may give you some ideas.
Emma - Where can you get cheap stuff? Here are a few ideas: Ask fabric stores for remnants of material. Sometimes if it won't sell, they will sell it to you really cheap or may even give it to you for free.
Marc CT - I have some general ideas for the beginning of the year on my web site at:http://members.aol.com/mezim/index.html
Emma - If you need carpet for a reading corner, etc, go to a carpet store (not Home Depot), and ask them for old carpet samples. I was able to cover a large part of my room this way!
esther - i was just appointed head teacher/director for a nursery school, I need help with everything from bulletin boards to circlcle time to curriculum HELP
Art2 - My professor says that when people find out you are a teacher they are more ready to give you a bargain - or donate
DYAN - I used laminated newspaper for the backdrop on one of my bulletin boards and then put up all kinds of current event news articles backed with bright construction paper, pictures of fun activities that kids like, such as sports teams, etc.. I called it "What's New" One year and "It's News to Me" the next year! I kept it up all year and just changed the current events! It was interesting for the kids and easy for me to keep up with!
becca - I have raided my aunts houses and got tons of neat little art supplies
Jess - do copy shops keep scrap paper they will donate?
Art2 - If I'm not mistaken, donated things to a school are a tax deduction for business
Ga. Teacher - Does anyone have any ideas on how to store math manipulatives and arts and craft items?
Emma - Do you want to have pillows, a couch, or anything else like that? How about a stool for yourself or a chair? Search out a Salvation Army or Good Will store. You can get couches for $30.00, chairs for $5-10, pillows for .50! If you don't like the cover, put a sheet or blanket over it!
DYAN - Yes! Ask lots of places for donations - McDonald's and other fast food places will often give gift certificates to use for rewards for students!
Art2 - Jess, I have run a printshop. I know for a fact that they do have scraps that they will give away
gman - pizza boxes work pretty well
KW - yes, McDOnald's donated sundae cups to my class last year to use as terrariums. They worked great.
Emma - Store math manipulatives, student supplies etc. in plastic tubs with covers. I had each group of students place their supplies in a tub that was reserved for their group. One student was placed in charge of getting the Math Box and the Supply Box. Make sure you label each tub clearly so that they can find it easily. We stored the boxes on a shelf so that at the end of the day the room was neat & clean!
DYAN - Store math manipulatives in rubbermaid type boxes that are stackable!
becca - GA-I have used large nut cans or coffee cans, or bought plastic boxes at the $1.// store
liz/AK - Emma-Math manipulatives are what worry me. I don't have the money for all that cool stuff. Would it be rude to ask your neighbors if they would be willing to share with you? I wouldn't want to step on anyones toes.
Emma - Another great activity to do with the "news" bulletin board is to ask students to bring in current event articles for local, state & world news. Take some time each week to discuss the articles and how they relate to your students. Then you can have the student place the article under the appropriate news label (local, state, world). You might even give students bonus points for participating
Jess - I just got a bunch of zippered canvas bags at the dollar store and am going to use them for take home activities like guest scientist, USA clue, Creation Station and Newscaster
Emma - Liz, Some schools have adopted math programs that come with manipulatives. You need to call the school secretary to find out what math supplies are already at the school. It may be that you don't have to buy a thing.
Emma - Some great ideas for math manipulatives are: pom poms & egg cartons (fractions), cut up strips of colored paper in different sizes (fractions, measuring), buttons, craft sticks, etc.
DYAN - One great idea to start getting ready this summer is your substitute folder! Include generic writing assignments, and discussion prompts, etc.. so that if a sub runs out of your planned activities during the day, they are not lost! A busy class is a class with less discipline problems! Then when you get to school, include in it your deatiled daily schedule, grade level team members' names and room numbers, principals name, Procedures for every day etc...
Emma - There are so many great ideas out there! We all "steal" good ideas from each other. This is called professional sharing and is done by all teachers.
Art2 - You can also use origami for math. (fold paper in 1/2, 1/4 for fractions, etc.)
Mrs. C. - Dyan, I have started doing the sub folder. It kept me well occupied. I also included brain teasers.
Emma - Mikki - Don't worry about feeling inadequate. It is hard when you are just starting out. You want everything to be perfect, but at the same time you don't really know where to start. It is a tough situation, but that's why there are mentors and veteran teachers who offer to help!! :)
DYAN - Great! These are sooo important! I put it in My "Day of the Week" folder before I left each night!
DYAN - Mrs. C - Excellent ideas!
DYAN - Have any of you made "Day of the Week" folders - these are life savers for organization!
Jess - Newscaster-- every night a different student chooses an article from a magazine, newspaper, or internet, writes a summary and then shares it. The article and written summary get pasted into a notebook. Though I am rethinking this idea now that I've got the newspaper bulletin board idea..
Emma - I use what I call "discovery" learning where my students discover the information for themselves. Sometimes we use our text book, encyclopedias, other books, or the internet. By searching for the information or answers to probing questions themselves, they are actively learning rather than passively listening to you lecture or give information.
Jess - I also have days of the week clothespins to clip homework together.
esther - dyan what are day of the week folders
becca - Dyan-great ideas, since I do not even know what grade I will be teaching, the folders are something I can work on now!!
DYAN - Jess - great! my students loved checking the newspaper bulletin board every week! It kept them involved and excited about coming to class!
Jess - So where else can I get supplies?
Jess - What is the first thing I should do on the first day of school? (We start on a monday, have a full day and a full week!)
DYAN - becca - yes! Just get colored manila folders and write or use fancy die cut lettering etc.. one for every day of the week, then laminate! Each night, put your lesson plans and materials for the next day, plus your sub folder in the "Day of the week" folder and put in on top of your desk - your all set for the next day!
Mrs. C. - Jess, have you read Harry Wong's book The First Days of School?
Ga. Teacher - There are freebies on the internet and you can purchase a book for about 8.00 where you can get good items for your classroom for free.
KW - Mrs. C, I am in the middle of that book. It;'s wonderful!
Emma - Supplies: Check to see if your district or local area has a Media Center. In Texas we have things called Regional Education Service Centers. Inside they have a place where teachers can create posters, bookmarks, laminate supplies, make borders, and get other supplies for their classroom very cheaply. Teacher Stores charge an arm & a leg for these sorts of things.
Jess - Mrs. C - yes, I own it. It's great!
Jayne - Where can I get die cut lettering large enough for bulletin boards
DYAN - Jess - OVERPLAN!! You can never do wrong when you have too many activities planned! It is soo much easier to Not do and activity than to think of one on the spot! For all of you new teachers out there - we have an entire chapter on the first day of school in our book, "Survival Kit for New Teachers!"
Ga. Teacher - In Georgia there is a Staff Development Center where they sale cheap school supplies.
Emma - I also worked for a district who had their own Media Center just for district teachers. You should call your school secretary and find out if there is one near you.
Mrs. C. - Jess, I hope to start my first year this fall but I feel pretty confident about the first day after reading that book. I will be starting by teaching the rules and procedures and a few getting to know you games.
Art2 - Jayne, I know our elementary school has letter cutters in their library. Any teacher can use it.
liz/AK - Jayne-The school I student taught in had a set of them, the district also had a Library/Media center with an even larger supply. I'd see if your district has oen.
Art2 - In Georgia there is also state surplus where supplies can be gotten cheaply
Emma - Don't buy cut out letters! They are too expensive and most schools have Elison Machines (die-cut) that you can use. One tip, though - Laminate the construction paper BEFORE you cut it out. Otherwise you'll be cutting out laminated letters & numbers til you are blue in the face :)
Jayne - I will be student teaching and the school is at another place due to construction so I don't know how well things will be organized.
liz/AK - Jayne-Check with your cooperating teacher. They'll know about that sort of thing.
DYAN - Everyone, for the first day of school, it is very important that you alternate between rules/procedures types of activities and also fun "getting to know you" types of activites - some teachers make the mistake of having the first day be all about fun and games, but this is a mistake!
Ga. Teacher - I am not sure of the name of that book. But its freebies for teachers or something.
Mrs. C. - Jayne, probably the best thing for you to do would be to be very organized and portable, and to communicate a lot with your cooperating teacher, and with your peers if possible!
Emma - Some good items to get because you can use them for all sorts of things: plastic crates, hanging file folders, manila folders, plastic tubs with lids, a large plastic or glass jar, a roll of colored tickets (teacher stores carry these).
Emma - Check with your school secretary BEFORE you buy the following: plan book, grade book, calendar, sub folder, office supplies (pens, pencils, paper clips, tape, scissors, etc.)
liz/AK - Dyan-Aren't we attempting to set the pace for the remainder of the year on the first day. Should you try to get into any academics the first day or just stick to getting to know you, rules and placement stuff?
Emma - The name of the book is 100 Free Things for Teachers
DYAN - Make sure to create a poster of rules and consequences! Then laminate to have up all year! They DON'T need to be the focal point of your room, just off somewhere that you can refer to them when necessary, or remind students to review them, and for subs it is great!
Art2 - My main supply list had to be turned into the Board of Education. Office supply type things are handled by the school
Emma - Liz - It depends on what grade you teach. The higher grade levels expect to start academics on the first day of school. I think that a "warm up" activity that gets them working such as a poem, essay, etc. (for L.A. teachers) is a great way to start class. Then have students share their work. Then you can spend the rest of class going over rules, procedures, etc.
Jayne - Mrs.C: Do you have any suggestions as to get organized? What kinds of things do you suggest to have an easier time porting things
liz/AK - Can you have rules in mind, and then have the class come up with the rules that will govern their class?
DYAN - Liz/AK - I always liked to introduce my themes for the year, but never really started teaching an academic on the first day! Yes, the first day is setting the pace for the rest of the year! It is crucial! (For students and thier parents!) Stick mostly to procedures, rules and getting to know you activities!
KW - Kat, communicate with you supervising teacher! That is most important. Find out what she/he will and will not let you do once you take over. make sure you overplan!! Don't get stuck with nothing to do and 1 hour left of school.! Good luck.
Mrs. C. - I have a book called Free and Almost Free Things for Teachers which is pretty good...you can get lesson plans, maps, posters, and there's information about getting free books too...
Art2 - I saw a teacher creating an entertaining power point presentation on class rules
Mrs. C. - Jayne, I used a 3-ring binder to organize, plus kept my own plan/grade book.
Ga. Teacher - Explain more Art2.
Emma - With younger/intermediate students, I like to start with a get-to-know you activity, then go over the rules & have students do an activity with the rules (such as make a skit, poster, presentation about one rule). Then I do another get-to-know you activity. Then I go over classroom procedures. If you have an entire day to plan, you can put in other activites that alternate between team-building, esteem-building, academic "warm ups", etc.
becca - Mrs. C I agree, definitly keep your own plan book in student teaching, it really helped me alot!
kat - About the first day: DYAN or anyone: Do you suggest leading the class in discussing what their respondibilities will be to develope the rules or should I decide those before hand and present them?
Jayne - Any suggestions as to how I can purchase your book Mrs.C
Art2 - We have computers in each classroom. There is a software program called "Power Point" that you create a slide show presentation. You can have things fly in, drop or fade in, add art. It is great
Emma - Mrs C. - How funny! I also use a 3-ring binder to organize. I actually use a computer template and type out my lesson plans so that they are detailed enough for a substitute to use. Then I file my plans along with a copy of each handout/instruction sheet into my binder. When the six weeks is over, I have everything bound together in one book. I start over for the next six weeks.
Marcia/CA - One year I cut up a poster board into as many pieces as kids. Then I gave each child a piece and told them to color something special to them
DYAN - We don't suggest having students create the rules, because you will always have smart alecs who say silly things, but as a teacher, you learn that EVERY student's comment has to be taken into account and written on the board for validation, so it gets very hectic and hard for the teacher! Let your students have choice in the classroom on other aspects, like choosing a topic for research, etc.. not on the rules that you EXPECT them to follow!
Marcia/CA - Later they found out it was a class puzzle. They liked to put it together during center time.
Mrs. C. - Jayne, if you mean the book I mentioned, I called (916) 351-1912 to order, or if you want to go through your own channels the author is Susan Osborn.
liz/AK - Also, be sure to submit your plans to the principal and have them observe and evaluate you. Districts love that.
Emma - kat - Some teachers are nervous about letting their students help come up with the rules because of the types of students that they have (i.e. - rougher neighborhoods). However, other teachers have students who could responsibly handle coming up with the rules. You may find, however, that your school has a set of rules they expect every teacher to follow. The hardest part is when you don't have any kind of place to start when developing classroom rules.
Ga. Teacher - Any ideas on a creative reading corner ?
Mrs. C. - Free and Almost Free Things for Teachers
DYAN - Liz - yes! it is a great idea to ask the principal to come in and observe periodically, then you are not as nervous duing the "Evaluation" observation!
liz/AK - I see. I just had heard of a veteran teacher doing that, but wasn't sure about it.
liz/AK - Dyan-I wish I had done that. I've got to now, if I want to be eligible for a district that I"d like to work for.
Jess - I use 1)Be Kind, 2)Be Safe and 3)Be Responsible. (Just about every other rule fits under one of these) We brainstorm and do a T-chart to decide what each of those looks like and sounds like, so the students are getting some input...
Emma - I just love doing a puzzle in the beginning of the year. Some teacher stores carry blank puzzle boards that you can purchase. I have given one to each student to create a self-portrait collage. Then we exchange puzzles throughout the year and let everyone try to put together a classmate's puzzle. Working puzzles are great for building critical thinking & problem solving skills. It also helps students with their spatial reasoning! Puzzles are very brain compatible! :)
Emma - Jess - What a great idea! I always have my students either do a drawing or chart of what each rule looks like, sounds like, & feels like. This is especially helpful to show students the specifics under each rule.
liz/AK - If you have a theme, you can get puzzles that fit within that theme.
Emma - Ga. Teacher - How much room do you have for a reading corner?
DYAN - Jess - that is soo funny - I also used tha T-chart and did the looks like, sounds like activity with the rules! It is worth everyone's time to spend quality time covering rules in the classroom - we even had our kids do skits to demonstrate the rules! This was in upper Elem.
becca - Puzzles are a great idea, I hadn't thougjt of that!
Jayne - How do you go about doing a puzzle? Emma
Jess - oh--feels like! Good idea? So a t-chart that has three columns becomes what? :-)
Cess - Do we have to type ? if we need to ask a question?
kat - Anyone: Do you have any ideas for "getting their attention" on the first day for a high school English class?
Emma - Jayne - See if you can find a teacher store that carries blank puzzle boards. The kids can use markers to draw on them. Then they need time to dry. Then the puzzles are done! The boards are pre-cut!
Linda - Make sure your students know exactly what each rule means.
Mrs. C. - I have my rules poster made up. My rules are 1) Show respect for yourself and others, 2) Allow the teacher to teach and allow other students to learn, 3) Do not talk when someone else is talking, and 4) Respect the property of others.
Emma - kat: I like to start with a short essay on their thoughts about themselves as a writer and reader. How would they evaluate their abilities, what would they like to be able to do, and what are their goals for this year. It takes all class period and they know that I mean business about class!
Art2 - Kat, I heard of one "ice breaker" where you have each student toss a beanbag to eachother and tell something about themselves
Mrs. C. - Cess, just type your questions and try to read along fast for the answer!
Jess - Oh, I have a question... since I'm just starting out, I don't have very many books. I REALLY want a print-rich room, with a reading corner, etc. Where do I get books? (I can't afford to just go out and furnish my clasroom library!)
liz/AK - kat-Maybe start with asking the students what books they've read during the summer? Or how they can explain how they used english during the summer.
Angela/3/MA - Marcia/CA, I used the puzzle activity on Move-Up Day (the last day of school). I will save the pieces for a bulletin board that will go up before the first day of school in September. The title will be, Welcome to Grade 3. The puzzle is shaped like a 3.
liz/AK - Jess-Go to a retiring teacher's garage sale.
Mrs. C. - Jess, another teacher suggested to me that I go to yard sales. She has over 500 books in her class library using this and the free books from the book clubs (Scholastic, Troll).
DYAN - Another cute ice-breaker is to let students grab some M&M's from a jar, as you walk around the room! Don't tell them before hand, but then for every M&M they take, they have to tell something about themselves!
becca - Jess-used book stores are great!
liz/AK - kat-Another icebreaker is have a bowl of M&M's or something similar and have them grab some, then they have to tell one thing for every M&M about themselves.
Angela/3/MA - I find great books at yard sales. They are in great shape and cost less than a quarter each.
Art2 - A continuing story is fun. Start a story and stop. Have a student continue it for a minute or two, then the next has to pick up. Fun, entertaining, creative - for writing
Mrs. C. - Re M&M's -- Don't forget to tell them beforehand not to start eating!
Linda - Jess--also use the book clubs--like Scholastic and Troll. Find a teacher who already belongs or who has left. have kids order books and use bonus points.
Ga. Teacher - Dyan that is a good idea. We played that and it is so much fun. They usually get a hand full.
DYAN - You can also do "Partner Interviews" for older studnents! As a class, brainstorm some interview questions, then have students pair up and interview eachother, and then give a report to the class on their partner.
becca - Yards sales and the used book stores are where I got most of mine. Also, scholastic has a warehouse here and have sales where they sell everything ar 1/2 off!
seuss - also check at goodwill, salvation army. We have a thrift store in Tallahassee that benefits the orphanage. I have bought many books for 50cents.
DYAN - Art2- Yes, we called that Round Robin Writing - that is fun!
Emma - Jess - Great question!!! When I first started, I got books from garage sales. You can also check with your school library to see if they have any old books they don't want any more. Then, after a couple of weeks of school, have a book drive. I made mine a contest between my classes. My students donated books to be used in the classroom. The other thing you need to do is to take advantage of Book Clubs like Scholastic and Troll. Every time students order & pay for books, you rack up points that you can use to get free books. Lastly, Scholastic usually has a warehouse in most large cities. Every so often they have a warehouse sale where you can get books very cheaply! Also, ask your school/district if they have a book budget. You may be able to buy some books with school money.
Angela/3/MA - Library book sales are great places to find books, too.
liz/AK - Ask neighbors and relatives if they have any books that their kids have grown out of. I know my MOm still has some.
Linda - Also check public library--many times they are getting rid of books.
Ga. Teacher - Is there a Scholastic Warehouse in Ga.
Mrs. C. - I have also made up a poster to start the year which lists the morning procedure: 1) Move your clothespin to show your lunch choice, 2) Put homework folder in basket, 3) Hang coat and put away backpack, 4) Sharpen pencil if needed, 5) Complete the daily puzzler or other posted assignment, 6) Quietly organize your desk or read while awaiting next instructions.
liz/AK - What does one do for the really young students who are spending their first day away from their Mom and Dad? How do you keep them from crying the whole day?
Art2 - Check with a nearby college of education, Ga. Teacher. They can probably tell you.
kat - great ideas about icebreakers everyone! Thanks
Emma - Make sure though that you have an "inventory" list and that you write your name in every book. You might even want to ask your librarian for library cards & envelopes to put in the back of your books. It really makes it easier for students to check out books from you. It will be easier for you to keep up with the books that have been checked out. I also put a price for replacement on the card so that if the book gets lost, the student is responsible for replacing it.
seuss - I just signed on to teach a pre-k class next year. It is a new program for the school district. It resembles Head Start. I'd love some thematic ideas from fellow teachers. Any ideas?
Ga. Teacher - Liz, My daughter started Pre-K last year and her teacher took a picture of me and her dad along with her and placed on a bullentin board.
Emma - Mrs. C. - Great procedures! Dyan and I also do morning procedures for our intermediate students. I also have procedures for Writing Workshop, Reading Workshop, and End of the Day.
DYAN - Yes - Mrs. C - Procedures posters are very important! We also had morning procedure posters, plus posters for several other procedures that were listed step-by-step! Students are more disciplined when they know what to expect!
Mrs. C. - I developed the morning procedure after reading Wong's book.
Emma - I find that by posting these procedures on a poster, students can easily see them and I can refer to them when asked, "What do I do?"
liz/AK - seuss-We just finished a mystery theme, complete with food, for 4-8 graders. I'm sure it can be made a little more appropriate for young students.
Mrs. C. - While reading the archives, I saw an idea to add to what Emma said about having students check out books: assign a student to be librarian so it doesn't take all of your time.
seuss - I have one more question. what is DAP in terms of alphabet, reading, and writing centers for pre-k? I have received so many emails lately from the boards concerning this topic.
DYAN - We developed our procedures after experience - we got tired of always having to repeat ourselves and be asked by students "what should I do next!" I believe that you have a more successful learning environment when the teacher and students are organized!
Art2 - Seuss, you could use the seseme street idea of having each week or day having a designated number or letter
Emma - Mrs. C - How interesting. Susan Kovalik with Integrated Thematic Instruction also highly recommends having clear procedures posted on the walls. It makes students feel safe knowing that they can refresh their memory as to what they are supposed to do. This helps your classroom to be a non-threatening environment which is important for brain based learning to occur!
newteach - I was just hired to teach first grade next year. Any suggestions for the first day in regards to procedures and acitivities to get to know each other?
Mrs. C. - I want to do another poster of "What do I do next" activities.
Emma - KW - The entire first chapter of our book, Survival Kit for New Teachers, is completely about How To Get A Job. It takes you step-by-step through the entire process along with tips for getting hired.
seuss - I think I may try to do a letter that corresponds with the theme. For example, while doing a study on pumpkins we could study "p" and "j" for pumpkin and jack-o-lantern
Cheryl NH - Hi everyone--- I use procedure posters in my preschool classes also. I have one for regular days and one for inclement weather days. This helps out at the beginning of the year. The children can SEE what will happen next. It really seems to help.
becca - suess- in our DAP labs, we made sure that the children always had access to books, paper, pencils, crayons, etc...and if they ask us to help, we do (w/ writing, etc.)
Meg - Seuss-try Sue Bredekamp's book on DAP
KW - All I keep hearing is how there is such a big teacher shortage, yet every school I visit has no jobs available!
KW - I have sent resumes to about 35 schools. I have called and called and today I visited 4 schools. No luck!
Emma - Don't worry newteach - Teachers.Net will archive the ENTIRE chat and you'll be able to read all of the comments in a day or two on their archives page.
Christy/PA - Hi all... hoping to hear on Wed night next week that I'm a FIRST YEAR TEACHER!!!
Mrs. C. - Seuss-I did a practicum in a K class and the teacher did a different letter every week with a theme around the letter. For instance, she had a theme of Dinosaurs to go with D.
Emma - KW - Where are you located?
luv2tch - KW - don't get discouraged. Look all around. Visit the schools, don't just call.
Jess - KW- according to my aunt, Polk County is desperate-- have you applied?
liz/AK - KW-Do you have your resume etc. on file with a placment service. Sometiems that helps. Also, go to job fairs, it's stressful, but it helps.
KW - Emma, I am fresh out of college
DYAN - Guys - when you get your class lists from the school secretary - we suggest that you write welcome notes for students! Use a cute stationary or make it up on the computer - for elementary students this is great - they look forward to meeting the teacher that has taken the time to write to them, Parents also LOVE it!
Angela/3/MA - I subbed, worked as an Instructional Assistant, and got my Master's Degree before I got a teaching position.
seuss - In Ocala Fl. there is a teacher shortage in early childhood programs. I was hired after my first interview at the school of my choice because I have a BS in early childhood.
Ga. Teacher - Did anyone have to take the Praxis I?
newteach - I was lucky to get my job as quickly as I did. I signed my contract two days before graduation.
Christy/PA - I've been subbing for 3 yrs and now have a full time job as Director of Education at a local agency who helps victims of sexual assault and other violent crimes hoping that experience will get me a job!
cj - Does anyone know a source that shows an example of a letter home to parents/child before the first day?
becca - I hear that, too KW, but then no one here is hiring
Mrs. C. - luv2tch-What should I say when visiting the schools, if I've already sent resume and other info?
KW - my resume is on file at the career Resources Center at UCF. I have visited schools and called.
liz/AK - Dyan-IF there is time after you get your lists, do you think it is appropriate or acceptable to call or visit your students homes to introduce yourself?
Angela/3/MA - They say that you have to be at the right place at the right time! It will happen, L.W.!
seuss - I took the Praxis. Didn't think it was too hard but have heard others say it is.
Cheryl NH - seuss--I have read the postings on the ring on DAP also..don't let it overwhelm...you really need to go with the needs and individual abilities of the children. If the children are showing interest in understanding the written word, go with it. There are ways to "teach" letters that will go with thier needs. As long as you are not rote tracing, and expecting to "stay in the lines" you'll be ok.
Cess - Any ideas for 3rd grade beg of year--first year teacher, too.
KW - You are lucky newteach. One of my friends gor a job before she graduated too. I am very discouraged.
Jess - Have any of you done the "gift bag" of cute things with meaning (i.e. penny for good luck, balloon to soar high, pencil because you are sharp, etc.) thing for your students?
Mrs. C. - cj, I believe Harry Wong's book The First Days of School does.
liz/AK - It wasn't too bad, but I think I could have practiced more before the test.
Ga. Teacher - Seuss, did you take the math part of Praxis I?
Terry - I have taken both the Praxis 1and 2
Mrs. C. - cj- you can also check at your local teacher supply store, ours has a whole book (softcover) of letters.
KW - I visited 4 schools today and gave them another copy of my resume. One of them has a 3rd grade position open. I am going to call and bug them to death if I have to!
luv2tch - Very appropriate to make home visits.
Emma - KW - Please don't be discouraged! Many districts are on vacation and some of them haven't received all of their resignations from veteran teachers! You may find yourself getting 5 calls within a couple of days. My first year, I was hired the day before school started because someone quit two days earlier!
luv2tch - It is also fun to send Welcome Back postcards to their home. Kids love this.
Ga. Teacher - Liz, did you pass?
luv2tch - You can get them at any teacher store.
liz/AK - KW-I heard from a principal that sometiems they really think it is cool if you do something catchy to get their attention.
Terry - What doyuo do when the scholl calls 3 days before?
Emma - Mrs. C - Have you seen our book, SURVIVAL KIT FOR NEW TEACHERS? It is a very practical book for new teachers and has a ton of ideas and step-by-step strategies to help teachers in EVERY aspect of classroom teaching!
Cess - Jess: More ideas about the gift bag?
becca - KW- I have also been told that after school starts that teachers can see where they need to hire. It is just frustrating waiting
Cheryl NH - Liz--I think home visits are wonderful and very appropriate. Bridging the gap between home and school is very important. It gives you a basis for the first day and takes the apprehension away for the students and families.
Cess - EMMA: Where do I get this kit?
Christy/PA - Emma... what is the name of your book again?
liz/AK - Ga.-Yeah. If Alaska hadn't lowered their minimum acceptable scores, I would have had to take the Math and Writing again.
luv2tch - You say thank you very much and take the job.
KW - That is what I am afraid of Emma. I am brand new, have no supplies, can't really get too much because I don't know what grade I will have. I don't want to be faced with kids and be unprepared.
newteach - I agree, do not be discouraged. I live in a small town that is trying to hire teachers that graduated from the county's public school system. Our district also had a lot of teachers quit due to babies and retire.
Jess - are home visits acceptable in most districts?
Christy/PA - Never had any of my teachers visit me.... that would be a great idea
Mrs. C. - Emma, I haven't had a chance to check it out yet but I plan to! I have been reading everything in site for teachers!
Terry - What kit?
Ga. Teacher - Mrs. C, I didn't get the lead.
luv2tch - I believe home visits are acceptable in most districts, but check with your principal to be sure.
kellyppr - I am heading up a Mentor committee. Any ideas for what is the best welcome package for them ?
liz/AK - KW-Sometimes districts like to hire people from outside of their area. I guess fresh ideas or something.
Jess - Cess-or anyone else- I can email you my copy of the letter that goes with the gift bag explaining each item in it , I was just looking to see if anyone else had used any that I don't have. Let me know if you want it.
Dana - Christy- where in PA? That's where I'm from
Mrs. C. - KW - I have tried to do what I can now, without knowing the grade level. Like rules & consequences, morning procedure, and sub folder.
newteach - I have also gotten a lot of great ideas from the first grade mailring on teachers. net.
luv2tch - One book that I have found to be a good resource is The Teacher's Book of Lists.
Linda - I would warn the parents ahead of time about home visits. They may not be home--or need to clean house. You don't want to embarass them.
Cheryl NH - ...If your district discourages home visits, perhaps you could send a Welcome card and a mini biography about yourself and what the children should bring and can expect the first day of school.
DYAN - I think that "Welcome Notes" or phone calls are just as effective as home visits! You have to be careful about "dropping in" on some people! If you are going to visit - call first! Some parents may resent a visit at their home!
Angela/3/MA - L.W., I was offered a position two weeks before school one year. Last year the same thing happened, and I was also offered another position after I accepted the first one. It seems that principals go on vacation during July, and when they return, they find that they need to replenish their staff because they found jobs elsewhere. Don't get discouraged yet. I know, it is very frustrating!
Dana - I got Bonnie Williamson's book First Year Teacher and it's great! Amazon.com
Mrs. C. - Jess! I missed the gift bag thing, can you explain again? Sorry.
Jess - is there an example of a welcome note to students somewhere? i already have my letter to parents written, but I hadn't thought about one to students. What should it say?
luv2tch - The gift bag idea is a German tradition, isn't it?
KW - I know Angela! I visited a school toady and the principal was on vacation!
becca - KW- get together things for bulletin boards, sub folder, etc... this will be one less thing to do later.
kellyppr - by them, I meant new teachers.
DYAN - Jess, there is an example in the Parent communication chapter of "survival Kit for New Teachers."
Cheryl NH - Jess--you could introduce yourself, give them a synopsis of what the first day may be like, and a picture of yourself.
seuss - How should I handle parent volunteers? I am so glad that the parents in my pre-school program are required to volunteer in the room in order to place their child in the program. However, don't know how to sign them up?
Terry - But what do you do if you are hired 2 days before school starts?
newteach - I would love to send welcome notes to my students, but I was told that I probably would not get my class list until the week before school starts. That would be cutting it pretty close.
luv2tch - Send out a questionnaire about what the parents might like to do.
Dana - I am helping my administrator do interviews right now and she has also decided to take a week or two off before continuing. Don't worry!
luv2tch - This gives you an idea of their strengths.
Angela/3/MA - Terry, take the job and celebrate! You won't have much time to prepare, but you'll manage!
Ga. Teacher - Yes, I am aware of Bethune. Did you get a call? What grade?
DYAN - Seuss - you can use an apple wish list basket, where you have cut out apples in a basket and on open house, you have parents pull a couple out - on the apple you can have jobs or donations that they are to be responsible for!
becca - seuss, in one K class I was in the teacher had the parents sign up for certain days of the month, and each month those parents came in on that day (ex:2nd and 4th Tuesdays)
Cheryl NH - Seuss--send out a questionairre to the parents asking when they would like to be in class, what their interests are (some like to be with the children, some like to cut and laminate).
Art2 - Terry, I am sure some the veteran teachers will pitch in and help you. They are probably in pre-planning by then.
KW - It is hard getting time off work to go running all over town to schools only to be disappointed. I have been told time and again to drive and visit. I am I am !!!! I am also running out of gas:-)
Cheryl NH - DYAN--that's a great idea for open house..I love it!!
Jess - MrsC- small bag (i'm using lunch bags) with a few different items, each with special meaning, kind of a self-esteem thing. Some examples are a cotton ball to tel you that this room will be full of kind words and warm feelings, a sticker to remind you that we will all stick together, a pencil to tell you I think you are sharp, etc.) these are all written in a note that accompanies the gift bag.
luv2tch - That can be frustrating, but don't give up.
al - I have lots of free resources if you need them.
seuss - Love the idea Cheryl. My continuous theme in my classroom is apples anyway so it works out perfect. By continuous I mean that my tissue box is covered with a wooden basket with stenciled apples, etc
luv2tch - I love your idea, Dyan.
KW - I'm trying not to luv2tch. I'm trying not to.
Christy/PA - KW~~ Where are you from? Do most of the school boards do the actual hiring/ approving or do the principals ahve the hiring power??? it's the school boards here (who know nothing about you or the other person)
KW - Christy, it is the principals here. We are responsible for getting our resumes to them.
newteach - Well, thanks for the ideas. I have to go now. Bye everyone!
Emma - Kellyppr - Are you in charge of new teachers in your school/district? If so, I'd love to chat with you about things that really help new teachers.
Art2 - Art posters, al
Queenmum - I am student teaching in the fall and would love info on behavior management techniques
Jayne - What do you mean by a challenge? AL
liz/AK - KW-If all else fails, sub and volunteer a lot. Get to know people. That's what I plan to do.
DYAN - Well guys, along with being a mentor for new teachers, I am also expecting TRIPLETS, so I must be getting on to other preparation sorts of things! Visit us on our web site at www.inspiringteachers.com and we'd love to answer some questions! Good Luck everyone! Good night!
kellyppr - Thanks. I think this website might be the best gift we could give new teachers!
Christy/PA - KW~~~ The princ. & assist. and some teachers are at the interviews then they submit a recommendation to the board for the hiring...it's really political here.... a board member could suggest a candidate and as long as they get a majority vote from the rest of the board they are hired... Frustrating!
KW - I will Liz. I have already planned to go get my subbing papers ready!
Jess - thanks alot everyone!
Kyla - Is the book "Survival Kit for Teachers" geared toward elementary, middle or high school? I find everything is geared toward elementary and this is extremely frustrating for a new high school teacher searching for resources!
Cheryl NH - WOW Dyan--Good luck, good luck and good luck--thanks for the great meeting!!!!
Christy/PA - Good luck to you Dyan!!!!! When is the big day????
Mrs. C. - Queenmum, I would suggest discussing this with your cooperating teacher first, she will probably want you to use the system she has established.
Art2 - Kyla, I am high school, too
Ga. Teacher - Good night Dyan and congradulations on the triplets!
seuss - I know in my county that principals hire within. For example, if you apply to aide in the classroom or library etc, when a position comes available, you are the first consideration. Try applying to afterschool programs and summer camp programs at the schools of your choice to get your name out.
KW - Congratulations DYAN! Good luck!!!
Jess - al-books!!!!
liz/AK - Queenmum-I had sixth graders where they did this thing called project achieve, it didn't work. Take what your school has in place for behavior managment and modify it to fit your class.
kellyppr - I head the committee up for just my school but we are expecting 14 new teachers this year.
Mrs. C. - I have a general question--if I have already sent my resume & other info to schools, what do I say when I visit?
Dana - Queenmum- I just attended Jim Fay's Love and Logic conference on management. It's fantastic! You can order the book Teaching with Love and Logic.
becca - Thanks Dyan, Congrats and Good Night!
aida - Hi I am a 2nd grade teacher. any helpful hints about the first week of school?
luv2tch - Good luck everyone. Congrats, Dyan. See ya later.
Queenmum - thanks
Kyla - Art2--what subject do you teach?
Cheryl NH - queenmum--what age/grade will you be student teaching in?
Jess - Well, I must go. Thanks for all the great ideas! Good luck everyone!
liz/AK - What's up with Dyan??
Christy/PA - Thanks Jess for the information to come!
Cheryl NH - liz/AK--Dyan's expecting triplets!!!
Art2 - I will be the high school art teacher in just a couple of weeks. Have you tried the chat boards?
al - What subject do you want for the posters and want types of books. There are some many.
liz/AK - Oh wow! That certainly is exciting!!!
Jayne - al: children's books
Emma - Survival Kit is geared mostly towards Elementary & Middle School. It is so hard to do a book for High school that is specific because there is such a variety of classes & students within the school! Our book does have good tips & instructions that would help high school teachers in the areas of organization, parent communication, motivating students, technology, etc. I don't want you to be disappointed though.
Art2 - I'm a new art teacher. I need art posters.
Mrs. C. - I have sent an info packet about me by mail to all the schools, I need to know what to say if I visit the school.
Ga. Teacher - It is 173 in Georgia also. I'm praying I passed.
Kyla - no, I haven't tried the chat boards. I will be teaching jr.& sr lit. I went to an education store that all the teachers I know (only elem. & middle) were raving about. Guess what? Their supplies stop at 8th grade. Nothing for high school. I was sooo disappointed.
Queenmum - I just got my results from NJ today. I passed. Yahoo!
Emma - Mrs. C - I'm not sure what you're asking.
Dana - Art2- write to Key Curriculum. I don't have an address, but you might be able to find them online. They have art posters- Escher, etc.
Cheryl NH - Queenmum--you should discuss this with your cooperating teacher at your first meeting. Each elementary teacher has their own way of managing the classroom.
liz/AK - Ga. TEacher-HEy, I'm crummy at Math and I passed, so I doubt you'll have a problem. What tripped people up, was they threw in a section on grammar that people hadn't been expecting.
Emma - Kyla - You should check out Apples N' Acorns. I believe they have supplies that will help you.
Mrs. C. - Emma, everyone has been saying that I should go to the schools in order to inquire about openings...
Dana - Mrs. C- I said hi, just wanted to drop my and introduce myself. Put a face with the name. Helpful to bring an extra resume with you and a portolio if you have one, to leave behind.
Marty - Hi I am a teacher in California.
Art2 - I am having the same problem, Kyla. But there is a chatboard for high school. You can post and ask for people's help
Mrs. C. - (cont'd) ...and I'm not sure what to say when I get there since they already have my resume.
Cheryl NH - Hi Marty..what grade/age?
Kyla - Emma--- Thanks so much for your honesty. I bought Wong's book today and hopefully that will help me. What is Apples 'N Acorns? Is that on the net?
seuss - I called the schools I sent resumes to. However, I hand delivered most of the resumes. But when I did call or stop in, I just explained that I was checking on the status of my resume. I usually said that I would like to know where I'd find a listing of openings. The district I will be teaching in has a website with each school's opening listed online!
liz/AK - Kyla-What literature will you be studying? British and American? You could blow up color copies of book covers or look for movie posters that are from certain books you'll be reading.
aida - What grade do you teach Marty?
Mrs. C. - Thank you Dana, that's what I was looking for!
al - Reading Hero honors and get books. 1319 F St. NW Washington DC 20004
Emma - Yes, putting a name with a face is a good idea except that you also don't want to intrude on a principal when he/she is trying to get ready for the beginning of the year. Suess has a great idea! Also, talk with the school secretary when you can.
Angela/3/MA - Art2, You can go to a copier place, have a color copy made of a reproduction in an art history book, they can enlarge and laminate the reproduction. Also, Crystal Art Productions, Knowledge Unlimited, and Nasco are great catalogs to order from for repros.
Dana - Kyla- Wong's book is great!
liz/AK - Hey, can anyone tell me about 4 blocks. I hear a lot about it, but don't have the faintest what it is.
Marty - I'm in fourth grade
Mrs. C. - Me too Liz, now I don't feel so bad.
Ga. Teacher - Good night all and good luck fellow educators!!!!
Art2 - liz, they had a chat on it a couple of days ago. check the archives
seuss - I need to get both of the new teacher books that have been mentioned tonight. SO many people have recommended them on the chatboards lately!
Cheryl NH - Liz, I'm not sure either, but there is a mail ring here on Teachers.net about in with--I believe__scheduled meetings--does anyone know for sure.
liz/AK - Kyla-Also maybe write famous quotes in really pretty handwriting and paste them on colorful pieces of paper.
Emma - The thing about jobs is this: Most districts/schools are on vacation right now. They most likely won't be calling people for a while. Sometimes teachers will quit on them right before the school year, so you may find yourself waiting and waiting until just before school starts. The most important thing is to have somebody remember who you are - especially a teacher in the school or a principal if you can!
al - National Gallery of Art and Getty have free materials
Dana - Mrs. C- I've also called ahead of time and asked when it might be a good time to stop in (between you and the Secretary). Usually, they'll tell you when the princ. will be there and nine times out of ten, they'll sit down and talk with you right there. Another idea I've used- a business card. Not many in education around here have them.
seuss - I want to know about 4 blocks too. Guess I'll follow everyone to that board later.
Kyla - liz/AK--I love quotes, too. I plan to use those as ideas for journal ideas.
Cheryl NH - Emma-I've heard a lot about Wong's book lately. Do you feel it would help/have any bearing for preschool issues??
Emma - The Teachers.Net Events mailring will give information about every chat they have scheduled. Also, look in the archives - I believe that there is an entire section on 4-BLOCKS.
Mrs. C. - Okay, here's something I'm worried about. I am working full time and I need to give 2 wks notice...what do I do if I get a last minute offer???
Marty - I'm taking a class on internet and we are starting a trainer of trainers program in my district. MUSD will just start to go online so we'll be looking for ways to expose our students and it will be a first
Ga. Teacher - Emma this is soo true, sometimes the schools get too many students and end up having to hire extra teachers!!
Dana - By the way, my principal told me that she would not hire someone who had never taken the time to contact her directly, even though the personnel office discourages it.
Cheryl NH - Mrs. C.--are you in a binding contract or with a union currently??
seuss - Is the job you are currently working at one that you will use as a reference? Or is it just holding you over until you get into your career?
Mrs. C. - Cheryl, I work for a computer company. (non-teaching)
liz/AK - Mrs. C-Maybe talk to your boss ahead of time and let them know of the possibility. That way they won't feel like you are short changing them.
Emma - Cheryl - Harry Wong has an excellent book full of theories about how to be an effective teacher. The only thing is that he doesn't address the practical issues faced by new teachers. You need a good blending of both theory & practical information. Not everyone will work in a school with veteran teachers who are helpful. Also, most veteran teachers are verry busy getting ready themselves and don't always have the time to answer your questions or help you as much as you need.
Cheryl NH - Nite ARt2--good luck!
Mrs. C. - Dana, thanks, I like the business card idea...what should it have on it if I'm not at a school now? Home contact info & name & slogan or something?
Mrs. C. - Dana, that makes me worry more about what your principal said. One of the counties here expressly says NOT to call the schools. I have sent all the principals packets though.
Emma - Also everyone - Don't forget to send a thank you card to the principal or district personnel officer right after you've had your interview. Specifically mention one or two things you discussed!
al - I have posted 5000 free resources at my site: www.reacheverychild.com I also answer questions there and you can find out more about what I do.
Mrs. C. - Seuss, just holding me over till I get my career.
Emma - That Thank You card will really put you in their mind! :)
Cheryl NH - Mrs. C--if you get a last minute offer, give as much notice ias you can-even if it is small. Opportunities happen and companies (especially corporate America) understand this. I would do what is in the best interest for your career.
Mrs. C. - I am doing the thank you cards, I like that idea!
Dana - My business card just had my name, address, phone #, and grades I'd be willing to teach, plus my e-mail. Nothing fancy. I did it on my computer and it turned out very tasteful!
seuss - the reason I ask is because I was working in retail until I got an offer to teach. I did not have to worry about NOT giving 2 weeks because I knew in time. However, had I heard only one week before school, I would have taken it and not worried too much about retail. My Career job is much more important to me.
Dana - About the principal- my district also specifically says NOT to contact principals, but mine said that she and the three others she's close with would not consider anyone who had not attempted to contact them. I also interviewed with this princ. earlier in the year and did not get the job. I wrote her a thank you letter and in it I told her what I was planning to do to improve those areas I felt were weak in the interview. She hired me.
Jayne - yes I want to know more al
Cheryl NH - Emma-thanks for the info on Wong's book. I am going to get a copy for vacation reading...along with a Danielle Steele novel!!!
Emma - Well, everyone, I need to go. It is getting late here and I've got a toddler to attend to! Good luck and please feel free to e-mail us at any time with your questions! :)
Emma - Bye everyone and Good luck! We'll see you next month! Oh - Also, check out our newsletter for new & "used" teachers called Pencil Points. Info about it is on our web site! Talk to you soon!
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