Tuesday, July 13, 1999
Early Childhood/Elementary
Music and Movement in the EC/Primary Classroom
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meeha/ece/tx - Hello and welcome! Tonite we're talking about ways to use music and movement in the classroom!
timnoah - Hi everyone!
timnoah - Thank you...nice to be included.
meeha/ece/tx - Tim Noah is a children's performer (singer, television) in the Seattle, WA area. His music is fun and kids really enjoy it!
meeha/ece/tx - As I recall people wanted ideas for using music in the classroom that were more broad than "just singing" ... so let's get sharing!
meeha/ece/tx - How do you use music in your areas?
timnoah - I am not a teacher...you're the real heroes!
Kathleen - Research is telling us how important music is for over all develop, such as in math
meeha/ece/tx - In my classroom of special needs preschoolers, music is incorporated throughout the day ... transitions are done with music, a lot of instruction is done via song ...
3~Aron - I know I plan on having classical music playing during independant work time... I can get it over the net at www.broadcast.com
g5 - in the hopes of not sounding too ignorant - i use music all day. i use it mostly during the times that the children explore the learning centers
3~Aron - I know I plan on having classical music playing during independant work time... I can get it over the net at www.broadcast.com
meeha/ece/tx - so much of the 'rhythm of language' is experienced in song ... it seems to enhance memory (mnemonic) skills
Janie - I was a remedial reading teacher for 4 years and in the fall I will be a 3rd grade teacher
Teri - What are some new fresh ideas for music; besides the cute songs we sing?
Erin - To cover all the academic areas, I ask the classroom teachers to fill me in on special units they are covering and incorporate music witht he lessons being taught.
Kathleen - So Erin, you extend themes with music?
timnoah - I would get the kids to make up their own songs
Teri - I have done this in my classroom. The kids love making up new verses to traditional tunes
Erin - I try! I teach K-4 music and I love working my lessons into what they are learning in the classroom.
Kathleen - rhythm of language, patterns, beat,
Teri - I think that it is so important to tie music in with the theme
g5 - i use music to teach the children their names. i use it in our phonics lessons
meeha/ece/tx - When we're talking about a new theme, I try to have atleast one song that we learn -- that teaches the kids something they can remember about the topic!
3~Aron - Ask your music teachers for the tune and lyrics to "Weavily Wheat." It's chorus is the 5's times tables, and can easily be adapted to other times tables, or even addition
Kathleen - tim, would you piggyback the lyrics to tunes the kids already know?
Djinn - Tim - I have no musical background. ie. can't read notes or play and instrument. Can you give me any ideas about using instruments?
Kathleen - g5, do you find that putting info to music helps kids internalize better?
Erin - Memorizing is wonderful with music. When I am preparing a concert I almost always make up hand movements!!!! They will learn the music faster and perform it moree accuatluy
Lacey - I am a 1st grade teacher and teach all subjects. Where do I start in teaching kids about music? Most of my kids have never even seen music notes!
Teri - How can we use instruments in the classroom besides the free for all playing that kids like to do?
meeha/ece/tx - the more senses we involve in helping the children learn the more meaningful it seems to be for the students!
timnoah - I took a songwriters class once and the teacher recommended that we take a walk and get into the rhythm of it...
3~Aron - Lacey... i wouldn't worry about notes as first graders, just teach them simple tunes
meeha/ece/tx - Lacey ... you begin with listening and picking out beats, rhythms, physical response (movement)
meeha/ece/tx - interesting, tim ... is that where some of your songs come from?
Lacey - Aron, what about following notes and rests to make rythym (sp?) too much for 1st grade?
g5 - kathleen - yes i do . sometimes i wonder when i am doing it if a particlular (spelling) child will "pick up:" and sometimes they do and other times they dont (not quite right away) but later on they do something and i realized that i have just made "a homerun"
3~Aron - Teri, get rhythm instruments and have them keep the beat while saying addition facts or spelling spelling words out loud
timnoah - Her point was that music is a very basic part of life...it's not something outside ourselves...it's in us and all around us...I think it's teriffic if kids can be encouraged to stay in touch with that part of themselves.
Den/K4/MO - Tim do you compose your music more for kids to enjoy listening to or for their singing?
meeha/ece/tx - interesting point ... and true!
meeha/ece/tx - Teri -- i work with special needs preschoolers -- varying disabilities
timnoah - They don't even have to have an instrument...the instrument is ourselves.
Erin - lacey - I simply introduce musical notations to my 1st graders. We spend most of our time singing and dancing. I use Silver Burdette and pick out 30 minutes worht of music. The last 2 songs are wind down songs. I cheorgraph all the music and we just have fun. I make about 3 30 minute tapes and alternate them weekly. Kids love music they become familiar with!
timnoah - I compose both music kids can sing along with, dance etc...and some more reflective songs that they can listen to quietly.
3~Aron - Lacey... Make rhythm cards with simple 4 beat rhythms on them, using only eighth notes, quarter notes and qauarter rests - that about all they need to know by the end of first in music... have them clap the rhythms
timnoah - I also like to tell stories with songs.
3~Aron - Lacey, along with that you can put three or 4 of those rhythm cards, clap one, and have them find the right rhythm
meeha/ece/tx - a lot of tim's songs lead children to listen and imagine! that was the magic of the first Tim Noan cd i offered my kiddos this past year!
timnoah - That's something to try with your students...tell a story with a song.
Erin - No half notes Aron? :)
timnoah - Imagination is major theme for me.
3~Aron - Erin... in my district, half notes (and two quarters tied together) are intoduced in 2nd
timnoah - On our TV show "How 'Bout That", we use music to explain processes...
meeha/ece/tx - when i was doing my student teaching the kinder teachers taught patterning with rhythm and related musical activities.
timnoah - or to tell a story...
Lacey - Mr. Noah, do you mean making up a story that fits with the mood of the music... or reading a story to music?
meeha/ece/tx - processes ... like?
S.G. - We have a music teacher K in Dallas. I like to use Greg and Steve CDs in the classroom.
timnoah - or to capture the essence of a profession, or a sport, or a dream...
3~Aron - Tim... to go along with stories with songs, ask your librarian... lots of childrens folk music has been made into picture books (ie. Farmer in the Dell)
Aybee - Hi all! I am an early intervention pre-K teacher. I have found that by using music you can teach kids anything. The possibilities are endless!
meeha/ece/tx - great ... i like that!
Djinn - Tim - where does your program Air? I am in the Central Valley - Ca.
S.G. - Ilove Raffi!Kids do too.
Erin - Tim - When does your show air?
Teri - When you use Greg and Steve do you have the children sing along, dance, etc?
meeha/ece/tx - SG -- Raffi is good! kids respond well!
timnoah - I'm sorry...I meant making up your own words to an existing piece of music, or making up your own tune and words.
toadally - Kindergarten children learn alot when music is involved.
Erin - Anybody familiar with Sugar Beats? This is fun music!
quiverful - anyone happen to be familiar with bob jone curriculum?.......i'm thinking of using their music curric
timnoah - Our show airs in Seattle at 7:30 Saturday mornings
Ga. Teacher - Have any of you all used call response with your kids. It is great!
meeha/ece/tx - Teri -- Greg and Steve ... as a matter of fact ... most of the music presented in my classes if offered for the children's enjoyment -- they choose how to respond much of the time!
S.G. - Yes, many of the songs include movement activities in the lyrics and teach shapes, colors, numbers, alphabet etc.
Ga. Teacher - Erin I have Sugar Beats!
timnoah - Call and response is great!
Kathleen - ga. TEacher, tell us about call response
meeha/ece/tx - quiverful ... i've just started hearing of that program, hearing positive comments, though no specifics.
Ga. Teacher - Ella Jenkins has a lot cultural songs and call and response C.D.'s.
Teri - So meeha, do you have the music playing during centers time for example. Some of the children simply listen and others play and still others respond any way they want? I do this as well
Aybee - Tim-A few years ago I had a video tape of yours that I played for my class and they loved it . It was very imaginative and it really caught the kids' attention. It wasn't that mindless Barney stuff!
Lacey - I have my slower readers make up tunes to short poems from their reader. It helped them memorize the words and then make the correlation of the words they were saying and the print on the paper.
timnoah - The Wowo Wow Wibble Woggle Wazzie Woodle Woo! Thank you!
Ga. Teacher - Call and response is like the singer will sing a statement or question and the children respond by singing or stating.
Aybee - I took it out of the collection of my public library but have never found it again since.
meeha/ece/tx - Teri -- I play music probably 75% of most days, occasionally we need a bit of 'quiet air'!
Den/K4/MO - Do you think there is a danger that children learn to ignore music if it is used as "background"?
3~Aron - Another fun thing to do is have children draw/color to a piece of music.... younger children will most likely draw instuments, but if you can get them to think abstactly, you will get pictures of what the music is representing (to them)
timnoah - Oops not Wowo
Aybee - That's the tape!! Yes! Is it still being distributed?
Kathleen - Ga Teacher, is the response an echo? or a different response
S.G. - Sounds like great alliteration songs , Tim. Great for pre -reading skill.s
meeha/ece/tx - Teri -- my kids also will pull a cd case off the rack and request the performer/music they want to enjoy!
Ga. Teacher - I play classical music in the morning and during journal time and the children love it.
timnoah - Quiet time gives them a chance to hear their own music...
Teri - I once took a small cut of lots of different types of music and gave my preschoolers a crayon and the scribbled on their paper the way the must made them feel. It was a lot of fun
meeha/ece/tx - tim ... my older kids rolled on the floor every time i tried to say that last year -- my tongue was so TOTALLY tied around my teeth when i said it -- it BEGS to be sung!
timnoah - I love the idea of children being exposed to all kinds of music...
Kathleen - Does anyone do anything with Peter and the Wolf anymore, personifying the instruments?
sue - terri, I did that with my 4's, too. great artwork
Aybee - I have my class watercolor to classical music. I try to pick something with different moods and intensities
Teri - Tim- Can your CD or videos be found in local libraries?
timnoah - Yeah, kids love to know they can say something you have difficulty with!
sue - ga-- mozart for the mind is a great tape for the kids
Ga. Teacher - It is usually a different response. The singer will say Have you seen my cow? Children will sing yes sir. And the question and answers are repeatitive.
Erin - I used Bibbity, Bobbidy, Bach and my kids made drawings of the music using colors and drawing the "mood"
timnoah - Some libraries have them...
Teri - I love Bibbity Bobbity Bach
Erin - Tim when does your show air in Columbus, Ga?
meeha/ece/tx - Aybee ... marble painting is fun with a variety of musics! you give kids shoeboxes with lids, put paper inside, they pick a marble and color of paint. They "Do what the music tells them to do" and stop when the music stops. Change colors, and do it again.
Erin - Teri - what is the other one????
Teri - I love that idea Meeha
meeha/ece/tx - interesting seeing how the patterns change with different music styles!
Mary K&1 - I don't suppose that anyone here uses the Little Orley Stories
Ga. Teacher - Great idea Meeha.
Djinn - If you go to Tim'ssite you can download a sample of his songs.
meeha/ece/tx - haven't heard of them, Mary.
timnoah - I wish it aired in Columbus Georgia...we're working on it!
Erin - Meeha - I'm stealing that one!
Teri - Is there another CD like Bibbity Bobbity Bach?
Mary K&1 - They are great examples of stories set to music
Aybee - Meeha-I love that idea. We have marble painted before but never to music. I think that would be loads of fun. Marbles rolling faster and faster!
Mary K&1 - Stuff that you remember for ever
S.G. - meeha have you ever used box cars for that painting activity?
toadally - Tim, do you air in Texas?
meeha/ece/tx - Erin ... someone suggested using 'superballs' if the tykes are too young for marbles.
Teri - We have used ping pong balls or golf balls
Erin - Teri - yes I have it and my brain isnt turned on
quiverful - in bob jones curric.....they learn to read music at an early age by using pictures and shapes.....it emphasizes classical composers, instruments, and classical music......my children love classical music....
timnoah - Sorry...we're still a local Seattle show...
sue - SG. I used the little plastic cars, they loved it!
Teri - Please let me know the title when you think of it
Erin - Car wheels are the best!
meeha/ece/tx - 'night, Aron -- thanks for coming!
Erin - Anyone know the other classical Disney CD? It will drive me cray!!!
timnoah - To be honest with you, in spite of the fact that educators give our show high praise and that we have won numerous awards...we are having difficulty finding a national syndicator that will take a chance on it.
quiverful - my kids also love making homemade instruments.....we did a unit on musical instruments last year......our music director at church showed them many kinds that he collected
Teri - I also once made dance sticks. I used dowel rods and attached scarves to the end. Then we danced the way the music made us feel. This was also fun and the kids were very creative
meeha/ece/tx - Erin -- you can take a quick peek at Amazon.com , they will have it listed!
meeha/ece/tx - maybe pbs is the route you need to go, tim?
Djinn - Sadly Tim - there just doesn't seem to be "money" in teaching children.
Aybee - I do the dancing with scarves held in the kids' hands or with crepe paper streamers. We switch from dainty music to the real rock and roll stuff. It is hilarious.
quiverful - teri.......crepe paper works well too
toadally - Your web page looks interesting. I will have to check it out.
timnoah - My son loves creating his own instruments...very cool idea.
meeha/ece/tx - Teri -- i made rainbosw similarly ... long crepe paper strips in multi-colors and masking tape!
timnoah - I was speaking of our show "How 'Bout That".
Erin - I subscribe to Music K - 8 and I enjoy incorporating that into my music lessons.
meeha/ece/tx - kids find music and instruments everywhere they turn!
Teri - Those are all wonderful ideas:)
meeha/ece/tx - (rainbows!)
sue - a friend made movment scarve from dowels, a large eye rings and chiffon. much cheaper than fromt the catalog
Djinn - How about folding paper plates - put rice and beans inbetween - staple or glue shut - add tissue streamers and then decorate. of course a parade is needed to test them out!
Aybee - Erin-Who publishes that magazine?
Erin - meeha - I can see my rainbows now! Maybe at the end of a Spring Concert...The Rainbow Connection?
meeha/ece/tx - Erin -- the world is a rainbow...
quiverful - my children also like playing charades.....for example when we do a unit on animals or community helpers......
meeha/ece/tx - The Rainbow Connection -- cute!
sue - djinn, maracas from red beans, colored masking tape and plastic bathroom cups
Erin - Teresa Jennings????I can go look. They have a web page.
timnoah - Teachers have been telling us our method of rhyming information and putting it to music and then reviewing the same information with pictures and spoken word is a dynamite combination...kids really "get it!"
meeha/ece/tx - with older kids you can make 'rainsticks' -- press straight pins into tall (papertowel) cylinders, tape one end, add some beads or beans, seal other end, decorate, then off you go!
Teri - Tim- I can't wait to find your CD's. My kids will just love to hear something new
meeha/ece/tx - my boys learned the 9 planets -- in order -- from the sun out ... characteristics of each planet ... this past year.
quiverful - my kids also like to make masks and dance to music that fits the theme
toadally - Erin, who is Tereasa Jennings? Where is her web page?
sue - meeha, try mailing tubes, roofing tacks with the neds blunted and grvel, much better tones
Erin - Tim - I agree our county cirriculam to teach kids to read is called "Sing, Spell, Read and Write. They memorize all of their letters, phonics etc with music.
meeha/ece/tx - one was watching a tv show and caught an error on some show -- his mom was amazed that he knew it that well!
sue - tim, what is the name of the cd and where is it available?
Charla - Tim, our kids do very well with any thing set to music...
Teri - Raven I also teach pre-k but hope to return to kindergarten someday
sue - anither musical instrument we've made is shakers from small disposable meatl ashtrays. you can staple the edges
timnoah - I have several..."Supertunes" "In Search OF The Wow Wow Wibble Woggle Wazzie Woodle WOO!" and "Kaddywompas"
meeha/ece/tx - acting out stories and 'becoming' characters is a lot of fun with music, too!
quiverful - i have a tape called rock n learn phonics
Djinn - Check out Tim Noah's site at http://www.timnoah.com if you click on products you can hear samples of Ti'ms music - I'm impressed!
Jamie - would the CD be approp. for 3-5 yr. olds,half sp.ed.and half reg.ed.?
meeha/ece/tx - in the winter time the music therapist does "Frosty" with the kids ... amazing what a sheet, a black hat, pipe, button can do to transform a child!
Kathleen - tim, the titles you mention would indicate that the songs would be helpful in developing phonemic awareness
Aybee - Tim-Although my singinging voice would probably empty a room of adults the kids like it and I sing everything. No matter what is taught, it is learned more effectively when set to music.
Erin - Plank Road Publishing - Music K- 8
Charla - I am looking forward to getting your cd...Our kids will love it, I am sure..
timnoah - Another thing you might be interested in know ing - I was asked to write music for a video to teach children basic keyboarding skills.
meeha/ece/tx - Jamie -- Yes!!! I teach that population, they really enjoyed Tim's music!
Aybee - that's singing not singinging
quiverful - shakers out of clear coke bottles are nice because younger kids liek to see what's inside too
sue - ti, my kids have picked up a lot from just having a small keyboard in the class
Kathleen - piano keyboard or computer keyboard?
meeha/ece/tx - that can be a fun project, Tim ...
timnoah - Don't you love how accepting kids can be if it's from the heart?
sue - kathleen, piano
Aybee - Tim-I would love to purchase some of your CD's but we don't have them here in Florida to my knowledge. Where can I go to get them?
Charla - We have made shakers out of 20 ounce plastic coke bottles filled with colored "aquarium" gravel....
timnoah - computer
meeha/ece/tx - Charla ... i like that idea, too!
timnoah - The best way is thru our website...http://www.timnoah.com
quiverful - raven.......have fun with it!......ideas are endless......kids love just about anything
meeha/ece/tx - or ... make shakers with rice and little film cannisters! (seal 'em tight!) for listening discrimination, use different fillers and let kids match sounds!
Charla - The neck of the 20 ounce bottle is easy for little ones to hold on to....
Addie k/mo - to go with the book, chicka, chicka, boom, boom...we made "chickaboomers"...two liter bottles filled with all sort of noisemaking small objects and sequins and glitter.....you shake on the "chicka" part and hit the bottle with your hand or hip for the "boom". they are loud, so you might want to take them outside!
Teri - Tim- do you include ideas for movement activities that go with your music?
toadally - Tim tell us more about the music and the computer keyboard....
Kathleen - Does anyone use jumprope and chants?
Addie k/mo - i think it is on the lesson board...it is not an original
timnoah - Linda Lewis developed a program to teach very young children the correct way to use their fingers on the keyboard and to begin to type...
timnoah - Her company is called Keytime...
quiverful - chants are great for learning rhythm
Aybee - There is a book of jumprope chants called "Anna Banana" --Very cute!
meeha/ece/tx - Kat -- we do chants and echoes ... not ready for jumpropes yet!
timnoah - know from people who have children who have taken her class that it really works...
quiverful - how young should you teach "correct" keyboarding skills?
toadally - Tim, so the program Linda Lewis developed is called Keytime? what age group?
Kathleen - http://www.keytime.com/
Addie k/mo - kat, can your kinders jump rope rhythmically? most of mine cant, especially the boys.
toadally - Tim, you developed music to do keyboarding by?
Erin - Music K - 8 http://www.musick8.com/
timnoah - That's a good question...she starts on a piece of paper...and takes a very fun approach...I'm not advocating that kids turn into computer nurds...
Aybee - My kids could not do the jump roping. The chants were cute but I think kids may need to be a bit older to do this.
timnoah - Yes toadally...I worked with Linda Lewis who developed this very effective program
Kathleen - Addie, no, not kinders. They don't have the coordination, but in 1 and 2 they should be able to do simple jumprope
Addie k/mo - raven, i have a website too, http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/2221 and i would be happy for you to email me
Mary K&1 - Kinders can use pretend jump ropes - jump to the chants and never get tripped by the rope
Teri - raven you must check out addie's website It is fantastic!
timnoah - It's pretty obvious the ways of using music to teach are endless
Aybee - I did the pretend jump rope thing when I realized that the real item simply did not work for kinders so young
Addie k/mo - that is a good idea, mary! usually there are a couple of girls that can actually jumprope, but most of the k kids cant! i have that anna banana book...it is cute
Teri - Does pretend jumping help them to learn to jumprope for real
meeha/ece/tx - i think with my kiddos using a piece of tape or a block on the floor to jump over would be both a challenge and a good learning experience! may try that this year!
Addie k/mo - teri, it would help them to keep a rhythm
toadally - we use mini trampolines on bad weather days and do the jumprope chants or jump to the music
Kathleen - Teri, sure, they would be practicing the coordination w/o the furstration
meeha/ece/tx - toadally ... that sounds fun!
Mary K&1 - Teri, it helps them get the rhythm
Addie k/mo - mini tramps! how fun! how many do you have?
Teri - I love it! It is things like that that I think "why didn't I think of that" Thanks
toadally - I have 4 mini tramps in my classsroom I keep them stored under the tables.
toadally - The mini tramps work. sometimes we use egg timers to change. sometimes we count and change. sometimes we change on songs.
timnoah - I love hearing teachers talk about ways to keep children interested, invoved and motivated with music and theatre and all the arts for that matter...I feel it has been completely underestimated...
Mary K&1 - call me crazy, but we have fun marching around the room
Addie k/mo - one of my favorite activities is when we are working on patterning, i have the kids build patterns with unifix cubes....then they take the corresponding colors of melody bells and "play the pattern"....or they can play the pattern then build it, or build, record and play the pattern. it is alot of fun
meeha/ece/tx - what about 'free response' to the music ... offer a viriety of music clips kind of "rapid fire" ... have the kids move to the music, stop, listen and respond again ...
Mary K&1 - marching is also good for feeling the beat
meeha/ece/tx - Addie -- sounds like fun!
timnoah - My son and I march alot in the morning...and I have written a march called "I Can Do Anything"
Tricia - we use "music sticks" to tap out all kinds of chants and etc.. lst graders love it!
Addie k/mo - mary, we do too, i have this ella jenkins cd that the kids play along with and it tells them to do all sorts of things with their rhythm instruments.
new2k/AK - I will have to check garage sales for some mini tramps...the patterning idea is nice! Gets multiple intelligences involved...
meeha/ece/tx - (GREAT song!) my kids hear that often, tim!
Aybee - When we march , we also stop and reverse directions. We may also march backwards or to the side. The kids think this is just the best!
Addie k/mo - i have found that the way that you stand the noise is to join them! then it doesnt seem so loud. LOL!
timnoah - I love to give kids that encouragement...that the magic is within...they can do it!
Addie k/mo - one of the selections on the cd is called this is they way to lead the band....and the kids hear marching band, jazz band, rock and roll, etc.....it is neat
meeha/ece/tx - Addie -- i use the music to limit the noise, too! rule at worktime is 'if you can't hear the music, find a quieter voice!' ... kids seem to understand and work in the boundaries most of the time!
teacher - hello sorry I'm late. I teach prek in Montreal, Canada
Aybee - Addie-Also by joining in, it shows the kinders that it is an activity worth doing. If the teacher is doing it, then it must be fun.
Jacque - Hi Mandi I'm looking for the Music and Movement meeting
Addie k/mo - we are small district, so our high school is in walking distance. last year when we had our "teddy bear parade" the rhythm section came over and played a marching cadence. the kids thought it was great. sounded like a real parade
jpm - i try to sing with them but i have somemany other things i just cant remember but the other teacher is always making up songs i hope that it comes with time
timnoah - The more you do it the easier it gets..
jpm - meeha i do that at lunch sometimes when we are eating and talking it gets loud
timnoah - It becomes part of everyday life...
new2k/AK - Addie: I'll bet they loved that!
meeha/ece/tx - jpm ... 'where there's a will there's a way!' many of the songs i use are made up on the spot! it is scary when the kids want to do it again tomorrow and i don't remember!
Mary K&1 - jpm, just make up stuff, anything you have to say to the kids can be sung
teacher - I find that singing insturctions, or learning during my circle time is much more entertaining and interesting for the children if I sing the theme song that introduces our topic
Addie k/mo - i just make up silly songs too. but they dont always ask to hear them again! LOL!
Aybee - I have the same problem Meeha. The kids may ask me to repeat the verse right after I sing it but because it was spontaneous, I will invariably mess up...and they correct me!
cecemo - I'm a spec ed teacher and find kids can learn lots of things if we put a rhthym or song with them
timnoah - Sometimes my son and I sing opera....the words don't have to rhyme...anybody listening would think I was out of my mind...come to think of it...they would be right!
new2k/AK - I agree: the kids really seem to respond to directions that are sung...
meeha/ece/tx - we need those 'little recorders' to keep us straight, right Aybee!
Mary K&1 - Addie, that may be so, but I bet that you hear them making up songs while they do what ever they do through out the day
timnoah - Nonsense...is a great tool too!
new2k/AK - How old is your son, timnoah?
Mary K&1 - I know that they have it when I hear them singing all the time
timnoah - 4 and a half...5 in August
Aybee - Tim--I think in order to be a truly creative provider to children whether it is in the artistic field (like you) or in teaching as we are, one must be a little out of our minds and get a whole lot crazy at times!
cecemo - I can still sing one kid's address and phone #....but he knows it too LOL
meeha/ece/tx - when i watch the language impaired kids in my classes i sometimes think that singing comes before talking!!!
Jacque - I really like songs that the kids can add information to...whether it's rhyming words or countries, anything
teacher - I find that the songs that I use in class ease the trasition stages better
meeha/ece/tx - Jacque ... have you got provinces and capitols to music yet?
Addie k/mo - actually, nonsense is a good tool...a fun phonemic awareness activity is having the kids change the first sound in their names to make other words! they are just rolling on the floor about some of names
new2k/AK - I taught my sons to spell their names and their addresses with a song.
timnoah - I agree with you Aybee...as Jimmy Buffett once said "If we weren't all half crazy we would all go insane" or something like that.
teacher - the children cue in on what time it is and know what they have to do
meeha/ece/tx - the name game song ... fun, nonsense ...
Aybee - A parents of one of my students asked me to give her the words to the smelly socks song I sang. I had to admit that it was an ad libbed creation and gone forever from my memory. Someday, I may actually write down the words to my bursts of craziness.
Jacque - Definitely--provinces and captitals, no I was thinking about that song that goes,"Suzy's getting up in the morning,heading for a new town today, Suzy is going to Africa cuz that's where the elephants play...
Aybee - That is just what Jimmy Buffett said. I am also a part time Parrot head!
timnoah - My son is absolutely delighted when we have a singing conversation...
new2k/AK - p. It was so effective...
meeha/ece/tx - keep a mini-recorder handy, Aybee!
Aybee - Jacque-That is one of Bev Bos' songs. I not only use capitals but we add any destination that the kids can think of to add to the song.
timnoah - Alot of times it's him singing about something absurd and me affirming with a response...
Aybee - Good idea Meeha. That would definitely work!
meeha/ece/tx - i need to get some of bev's music ... she is just full of good ideas!
teacher - I have a great tape by Hap Palmer that the kids just love
timnoah - Again, what is so wonderful about all of this, is that it becomes just part of everyday life...
Kathleen - Music Ed Launch site: http://www.talentz.com/MusicEd/index.mv
meeha/ece/tx - teacher -- Hap offers great selections for movement and learning, too!
Kathleen - thanks meeha and Tim! Thank you to all participants!
Aybee - Goodnight all. Thanks for giving us great ideas , Tim. Thanks for the suggestions, Meeha and all.
Kathleen - Teachers.Net appreciates your support for our live sessions!
timnoah - My pleasure...thank you for including me.
teacher - I also use an old tape I've had for years Sesame Street Arobics...the kids love it
meeha/ece/tx - tim, thank you for coming tonite -- come again soon! :-)
meeha/ece/tx - that is a fun tape, teacher!
timnoah - Good Night Meeha and thank you again!

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