Wednesday, January 5, 2000
Focus Session
World of Difference Program
with
Marji Lipshez-Shapiro
of
The
Anti-Defamation League's
A
World of Difference
Kathleen - Teachers.Net
welcomes Marji Lipshez-Shapiro who will share information about the Anti-Defamation
League's World of Difference Institute. School Psychologist/author Beth
Bruno recommended this topic saying, "a terrific program, one that many
schools have used to improve the kindness climate among teachers and students."
Marji, what is your role in the World of Difference?
Marji - I am the
Director of the program in CT
Marji - There are
offices throughout the USA and some overseas
Kathleen - A World
of Difference- Anti-Defamation League http://www.adl.org/frames/front_awod.html
Kathleen - According
to their website: A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE® Institute is for people who
share a community - be it a school, workplace, neighborhood or campus.
The program started in Boston in 1985 when the Anti-Defamation League and
WCVB-TV joined together to fight prejudice. From the start, this remarkably
effective way to promote diversity was embraced. It changed hearts and
minds, and it quickly spread across the nation - and beyond. The A WORLD
OF DIFFERENCE Institute now operates in the United States and in cities
abroad.
Sassy - How do you
get a program started?
Doug - Marji- tell
us a little about the nuts and bolts. are there lesson plans at the web
site?
Marji - You contact
the ADL office in your region
nicker - I've participated
as a member of the diversity World of Difference Dream Team, its oneof
the greatest programs i've ever participated in.
Kathleen - Goals
of the World of Difference Institute are: To recognize bias and the harm
it inflicts on individuals and society .To explore the value of diversity
and improve intergroup relations. To combat racism, anti-Semitism and all
forms of prejudice and bigotry.Does implementing World of Difference require
special training for faculty involved?
Sassy - Does each
state have an office?
Marji - A World of
Difference actually encompasses several types of programs
nicker - The other
members and I have brought what we've learned and brought them into our
school with much success
Mary K&1 - Can
you give us some examples of the types of things that can be done in a
classroom full of young children?
Marji - There are
programs for teachers K-12 which often include an excellent ANti-Bias Guide
filled with activities
nicker - I had particitpated
last year and requested to join again....what age group?
Mary K&1 - 5
- 6 year olds
Marji - With children
of all ages, we suggest that educators begin by setting groundrules for
discussion
Kathleen - Marji,
are you able to describe any specific activities for use in a classroom
for young children?
nicker - lacking
experience, i'd say books that express equality
Sassy - Do they come
into the school to train the teachers or do you attend classes?
nicker - well the
names really do hurt us program comes to the school as a whole right Marji?
Marji - It is important
that students have an opportunity to discuss basic groundrules like respect
and openness
nicker - but thats
a program for older students
Kathleen - Marji,
is WOD mostly a preventative program, to be used before prejudices are
formed (such as at early age)?
Marji - The activities
emphasize skills such as developing empathy, learning more about one's
own culture and identity etc
Marji - I often say
that some teachers and parents call us because they "See the liight" and
others because they "feel the heat" In other words it can be both reactive
or pproactive
nicker - some programs
teach others how to open awareness as well
Kathleen - From the
WOD website: At the center of A CLASSROOM OF DIFFERENCE is the anti-bias
curriculum that provides teachers with lessons to help students: Explore
prejudice and bigotry; Improve critical thinking skills; Examine diverse
viewpoints;Take leadership roles .
Sassy - Do you come
into the schools and train the teachers or do you take classes or attend
workshops?
Kathleen - Beth,
I was saying that the World of Difference program has your enthusiastic
endorsement. :-)
Marji - Most of the
time, trained facilitators come to the school
uni - How does this
program differ from something such as Project Peace?
Sassy - Does each
state have an office to contact?
Marji - There are
also programs for high school students
Mary K&1 - How
do these programs and activities differ from what teachers usually do -
teachers who haven't been through the training? What new "teachers behaviors"
will teachers bring into their classrooms?
Vanea - is WOD a
nationwide program?
Marji - I am not
aware of that program
Beth Bruno - A friend
of mine has taken the training to lead WOD programs. Students get so much
from sharing their stories!
Marji - Yes - it
is nationwide - acctually very active in Europe as well
nicker - i did not
know that Marji that's amazing
Beth Bruno - A top
athlete spoke tearfully about his learning disabilities - he had the whole
school in tears.
Mountainette4/WV
- where can you find the names really do hurt program - sorry I just got
here
uni - Can you tell
us a little about the curriculum?
Marji - The program
offers resources and skills that are typically an addition to what teachers
are already doing, if they are skilled in the area of diversity education
of course
Kathleen - I know
of at least one school administrator who is reading along tonight. Would
those of you who are familiar with this program urge him to consider it
for his school?
Marji - There are
curricular resources for elementary and secondary educators
Beth Bruno - Yes
I would urge anyone here tonight to learn more about the program and try
to bring it into your schools.
nicker - As a student
I give the program my highest recomendation
Beth Bruno - Nicker,
what did you learn from your participation?
Marceynews - as a
parent and educator I give the program outstanding grades!
Marji - The Names
Can Really Hurt Us program was developed in CT and is now beginning to
be offered in other areas - Calif. and St. Louis I believeand S
Marji - It is a very
powerful program where students teach other students - they are trainined
and coached by ADL trainers to tell their stories concerning name-calling,
bullying and prejudice
uni - CAn you explain
what the curriculum is like? What happens in a classroom - say middle school?
Beth Bruno - There
are many topics that are hard to broach with kids. The training helps adults
practice that before having such discussions with their students.
nicker - well as
a member of the Dream Team diversity training i learned to be more accepting
of others, as a minority myself i know its hard to be different and i felt
safer after the program, knowing that i was supported
Beth Bruno - Discussions
with students start out in small groups, don't they Marji?
nicker - Also, we
learned activities which we perforned with students from my highschool
Marji - Nick is actually
talking about another program we offer for student leaders from 21 high
schoolsr
nicker - small groups
offer more comfort for students who arent as open in larger groups
Susan - What is the
url for WOD's website?
Marji - In the Names
program, there is a large student assembly program featuring the student
panel It is followed by small group discussions.
Kathleen - What funding
options have worked for school districts?
Marji - I'd like
to know what others are doing to work with student on issues of name-calling
and prejudice
Beth Bruno - Students
are also given the opportunity to write about the problems they've encountered
with name calling or prejudice - before they speak about them.
Kathleen - One activity
some teachers use with little ones is a "wrinkled heart" activity, wrinkling
or tearing a paper heart to show how each mean action harms another
Marceynews - funding
- insurance companies, other businesses, local civc groups funded our programs
Mountainette4/WV
- I have done the paper cutout of a person where we say negative things
and tear it - then say nice things and apologize
Marji - Programs
have been funded in many ways - school budgets themselves (esp. anti-violence
funds) , corporations, foundations, individuals When a school gets psyched
to do it, they are very creative
uni - I am in training
(and just begun so I can't give a lot of details yet) for Project Peace.
Project peace works on a similar principle but iot involves student mediation
Ellen/MA/1 - You
said this program started in CT, How long has it been running?
Marji - The names
program has been running for five years
uni - I use a lot
of materials from the Southern Poverty Law Center's Teaching Tolerance
programs and also from Rethinking our Schools
Marji - Both are
excellent resources
Beth Bruno - Can
teachers become trainers? If so, do they lead groups in their own schools
or in other schools?
Marji - What are
folks doing to involve parents in the discussion ofi these issues?
Mountainette4/WV
- uni - do those resources have a web site?
Susan - I teach a
Martial Arts For Peace program..and have had great results.
Ellen/MA/1 - My school
is involved in Peace Games, which originally started at a college in CT
with a professor I believe.
uni - yes both do
- hold on and I will see if I can locate then
Susan - There's a
student book and curriculum: Why is Everybody Always Picking on Me that
is excellent for focusing on these issues.
Marji - ADL hires
trainers wh facilitate our programs, some are teachers
nicker - if parents
can get involved as their children are younger, i feel that it would make
a significant difference
uni - http://www.rethinkingschools.org/
Rethinking our Schools for materials and resources
Marji - On the ADL
website you will find an excellent resource "What to tell your child about
prejudice" - a collaboration with the national PTA
nicker - i feel the
prejudice is taught first at home, and teachers cant control that
Beth Bruno - Is there
a parent component to WOD programs?
Susan - Many programs
don't focus on the roots of conflict or environmental conditioning...nor
do they train teachers to have the skills themselves so they are role modeling
what they are teaching.. Does ADL do these things?
uni - Southern Poverty
Law Center "Teaching Tolerance" Program http://www.splcenter.org/
nicker - but i feel
that its harder to change adults
Susan - Teachers
can make a big difference... even if predjudice is part of the home environment
Marji - Tell me more
about what you mean about the roots of conflict
Marji - ADL does
have a parent component
Mountainette4/WV
- my students know how I feel about name-calling, ect. Therefore they don't
let me hear any negative comments - they are being said however. How do
I deal with that?
nicker - well i knwo
that if i walk in the hall that words which are hateful are commonly used
Marji - Do you provide
an opportunity to talk about problems?
Beth Bruno - Good
question. Kids are experts at making their nasty comments out of earshot.
nicker - i dont think
you can stop it all but you can open up an awareness to the affect it could
have on someone
Marji - The worst
problems are on the bus, in the cafe and hallway.
Susan - Our environment
from the time we are born caused us to have beliefs/attitudes/predjudices.
Many programs don't address that component. Consequently, students are
taught skills without understanding their own attitudes or where those
attitudes come from.
Beth Bruno - That's
a message that comes through powerfully at the WOD and "Names" sessions
- i.e. the hurtful effects of namecalling on others.
Marji - Nick - what
do you think teachers can do to open up an awareness to the impact of name-calling?
Susan - The difficult
piece is that often, they/we have NO idea we even have these beliefs
Susan - Suddenly
we react to a situation, and wonder why such and such upset us so much,
or why do we just not "like" someone we don't know...etc.
nicker - well i know
some teachers dont tolerate any negative name calling in their classrooms
, thats a start
Marji - Susan - do
you mean prejudices?
nicker - but i've
heard taht after the names program students have changed their ways on
what they say and where
Marji - It is very
important to admit that we all have prejudices. The issue is our behavior
- do we act on our prejudices?
nicker - the thing
is students use these words with a different mean for example , gay is
commonly heard but meant as stupid, unfortunately for anyone who is gay
this is offensive
nicker - but also
the word "straight" is used as a way of saying you are alright
Susan - Predjudice
is part of what I mean..but I hate to say predjudice alone because people
have a concept of what "predjudice" is and that concept doesn't necessarily
address all our internalized beliefs that cause conflict
Gin - Marji, are
you supporting a program that will help with unacceptable remarks?
Mountainette4/WV
- I would really like to examine the names program - did you give me a
url for it - or a place I can get a teachers' curriculum guide?
Beth Bruno - Kids
get so wrapped up in themselves, they forget sometimes that their words
and actions can have a major negative affect on someone else.
Marji - It is actually
not yet included on the ADL website you can e-mail me at lipsm@adl.org
for more info
Susan - verbal bullying
is far more damaging over time than physical bullying.
Marji - I agree -
yet it is not frequently spoken about
nicker - i think
the verbal is what leads to insecurity
Daisy - With younger
students, story telling often works: I teach in a private school, and had
a little girl a couple of years ago with very serious learning disabilities.
There was some teasing, and I made up a story of a 6-year old boy, very
much like the teasers, who had a brother who couldn't talk very well. The
6-year old defended his brother, and the children obviously felt sad with
what the little boy who couldn't talk very well went through.. The incidences
of teasing of the little girl decreased dramatically after this story.
nicker - Unfortunately
its brushed aside by comments like "kids will be kids" or the saying "sticks
and stones...."
Susan - and I see
parents/teachers ignore verbal bullying a lot... many will say ..it's normal...and
blow it off. In my classroom..namecalling doesn't happen..yet I hear the
same students I have will be in another classroom and be unmerciful.
Gin - I also think
that insecurity is a reason for verbal inappropriateness
nicker - name calling
is also caused by a person's own insecurities
nicker - people need
to feel superior and use name calling as a way of gaining an upper hand
uni - I think sometimes
adults are uncomfortable with their own prejudices. They ignore certain
name calling or verbalizations because deep down they may agree
Marji - One of our
students tells a powerful story about becoming a bully to impress the "cool"
group of girls
Mountainette4/WV
- I agree - it seems like the most insecure kids are the ones doing the
name-calling and bullying
Susan - insecurities
play a huge role... which is why a program has to teach adults how to empower
kids so that they are confident enough to use the skils they learn to resolve
conflict
Gin - Susan, students
rise often to the level we expect of them. When they can get away with
it, their behavior is sometimes appalling.
Susan - uni..you
make an astute observation... which is why training the adult is so important.
uni - But they would
never say it themselves
Susan - I see teachers
trained to teach children skills..but they don't have the skills themselves
and the children quickly see that
Marji - I notice
that when students realize how big an impact their words and actions have
had, they are shocked. we have seen some amazin apologies during our program.
Susan - Children
often have no idea how devastating the effect of their words are
nicker - well marji,
i have forgotten her name but her story about when she was a name-caller
and a bully and it was too late for her to apologize
Marji - I agree Susan
-These skills need to be taught to teachers - they are not usually included
in the teacher prep curriculum
nicker - shows how
much name calling can affect someone
uni - So how are
teachers trained in this program?
uni - How much time?
How often?? Is it something to be renewed?
Susan - The other
piece that is necessary is that no matter which program a school uses..
ALLLL the teachers must be trained in it and consistent in employing the
techniques/methods/standards..or children get a very confused message as
they move from teacher to teacher
uni - Where is the
training done and with whom?
Mountainette4/WV
- has anyone bought and used the posters they have out now on character
building? They show such things as respect, responsiblility, and cooperation?
Gin - Mountainette,
are you talking about the Life Skills?
Marji - I am having
a difficult time responding because we are actually talking about several
A World of Difference programs at once!
nicker - you know
what works to, bulletin boards
uni - How nick? Sometimes
I think no one looks at them?
Susan - smiles..at
Marji... chat can get confusing
nicker - with young
children if they create the bulletin board as a class project then i think
that they would learn a great amount of how prejudice hurts
Mountainette4/WV
- gin - I just bought a set of posters - there is one set for 1-3 and another
for 4-6. Haven't received them yet.
nicker - i used to
think so too, but you'd be surprised who you catch just glancing as they
walk by or actualy looking at it
Gin - I use a Life
Skills set that has 14-15 traits and definitions.
Mountainette4/WV
- I saw a bulletin board using a tree and the children put on leaves saying
when someone does something nice
uni - GOOD! Glad
to know all those hours I spend are worthwhile!! (I teach 6th and it is
a difficult age socially)
Marji - What are
others doing to fight prejudice in their schools?
uni - Me too Gin
(Do you do CLASS?)
nicker - also, if
you put up a bulletin board of a current event and everyone hears about
the event they are more apt to stop and look at the bulletin board
Susan - I'm a high
school teacher..so outside of giving teacher workshops... I work with my
students... talk, talk talk to them..role model... talk with them... I
also co-facilitate an anger management group at the school. It's been an
eyeopener..
Gin - Our town has
been the site of the Ford Foundation research because for a town of 35,000
we are much like a very small Los Angeles. We are working on fighting prejudice.
Susan - Outside of
my school, I go to other schools and train teachers, and work with parents
and local business groups
nicker - for example
some friends of mine and I put up a bulletin board about the Columbine
Shooting and that had a great affect on the students
Gin - The Ford Foundation
found that our cultures live independently of each other.
uni - Right now I
am in a mini-unit as we look at World Governments of "HEROES, LEADERS<
ICONS" why certain people become leaders and how they can lead you to good
or bad - we look at Ghandi andHitler and Mandela and Mother Teresa, Eleanor
Roosevelt etc etc
Susan - And I teach
a Martial Arts for Peace Program
Marji - Gin - In
other words thre is racial isolation?
Gin - They suggested
more cross culture activities.
Gin - Marji, yes,
there us the racial isolation. At first there were many conflicts...physical.
Marji - uni - what
do kids today say about heroes? Who are they looking up to?ng
Susan - One thing
I have learned is that we can teach kids all the skills, help them gain
the understanding..but..they are still a part of the social pressures of
this culture and will make choices at times that go against what they've
learned.. because they feel insecure in the moment.. Kids need experiences
to give them confidence
Susan - I was amazed
that most my elementary students said their heros were their PARENTS
Gin - We try to celebrate
each others holidays that are not controversial. We teach respect. But
in reality it is very hard. Many of our students are first generation Americans.
Gin - We have also
learned that students tend to forget their differences when they work together
on projects...but remember them after the bells.
nicker - its harder
if your town is a predominantly one group
Marji - There is
an excellent new video "The Truth About Hate" which features students from
the Hispanic and Armenin cultures transforming a situation of conflict
into collaborationto
uni - In general
I would guess mostly sports people and it is discouraging when you have
people like Rocher? (Atlanta ball player) who mouth off racial ephithets
every time around. My kids often pick very ordinary peopleas their heroes
- in 6th very seldom their parents.
nicker - but i think
curriculum should be introduced into history programs
uni - I teach at
a school where 47 different languages are spoken - and I am in central
Indiana!!!
Gin - Yes, uni and
the rap music that uses unacceptable names for ethnic and racial groups
don't help one bit.
Marji - Wow! That
is how schools will eventually be in most cities and towns
Gin - Our school
has EVERY sign in English, Spanish, Vietnamse, and Braille.
uni - Well I am in
a university town - the 6th grade next door to me has nine non-English
speakers in class of 25
Mountainette4/WV
- that's a good journal topic - who are your heroes and why
nicker - wow i mean
we have a hand full of students who can fluently speak a different language,
or have a native language in their background
Susan - Where do
you get the video The Truth About Hate?
nicker - but i see
something in the chatroom already, i hear a lot about ethnic minorities
what about other minorities
uni - I come up against
another problem as well. Our school is also a magnet for special programs.
We have the preschool Special Education program (kids 3-5 who have been
identified as needing services) all the ENL kids (English as another language)
and the gifted program. I find the prejudice against the kids in the gifted
program to be greater than any racial issues
nicker - there's
sexism, homophobia, heterophobia and other types of prejudices
Susan - wow..uni..
I don't think people often think about the predjudice against "smart" kids..but
it is significant
nicker - definately,
in a way i believe it grows from eny
uni - Well and the
prejudice from some teachers against the other teachers who teach in that
program
nicker - envy
Gin - When you teach
in a "have not" school, reverse predjudice is often common.
Marji - Kids who
are considered "smart" are frequently targets of taunts
uni - In the gifted
class it is largely (about half) Asian children - so ...we have that prejudice
too
Gin - Yes, one of
the ultimate insults at our school is to call a kid a school boy.
Marji - I don't believe
in reverse prejudice - Prejudice is prejudice!
Susan - nicker..that
is what I was referring to when I say people have an set concept about
predjudice --we often think only interms of minorities or homophobia...
but there are so many other issues that create unsafe situations in schools..
whether psychologically unsafe or physically unsafe
uni - Yep our GT
kids are frequently called the Generic Turds
nicker - true , i
must have missed that susan, but you know what jocks cause a great deal
of strief on minorities
uni - We have a wonderful
International Potluck Dinner - celebrate our diverse population
Mary K&1 - Marji,
there are just a few minutes left, do you have any closing thoughts you'd
like to share with us this evening?
Marji - I respect
all the teachers here for working on these tough issues - please know that
the ADL's A World of Difference program is a terrific resource - fighting
prejudice and building bridges of understanding is our mission
Mary K&1 - Marji,
thank you for coming this evening
Mary K&1 - And
thank you to all who participated here this evening.
Marji - Thanks -
this was great. Contact me at lipsm@adl.org
Mary K&1 - Thank
you all and good evening
Mountainette4/WV
- thank you - good night
Marji - Good night!
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