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On 2/08/16, agree again wrote:
> So agree Donna. I worked all through college and even
> while teaching I worked part-retail (had to pay the bills
> and starting salaries were low). I have put in more than
> my 40 quarters. Ugh.
>
>
>
> On 11/05/15, lorenzo wrote:
>> On 8/04/15, agree wrote:
>>> I am a CA teacher who also worked for department
stores,
>>> travel agencies, and the federal government prior to
>>> being a CA teacher (I love my career!). I have put in
my
>>> 40 quarters and more. This does deeply concern me as I
>>> hate to think of all that money that I put in and would
>>> lose.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/21/15, DonnaR/CA wrote:
>>>> Old thread, maybe, but it's still pertinent.
>>>>
>>>> We need to fight this old law. It was designed to keep
>>>> folks from double-dipping, getting both STRS and SS if
>>>> they didn't pay into SS.
>>>>
>>>> If you are a 2nd career teacher, or you worked a lot
of
>>>> summers, an after-school job, took a stop-out from
>>>> teaching, or perhaps you taught in a state or school
>>>> where you
>>> actually
>>>> paid into Social Security - you should find out if you
>>>> have earned your 40 quarters. This is where the
>>>> "unfairness"
>>> comes
>>>> in. You have paid into SS, you should be able to claim
>>>> it.
>>> If
>>>> you had not taught in public school, you would collect
>>>> that full amount of SS. But the law is slapping those
>>>> of us in
>>> the
>>>> face who have had a 2nd career, or tried to supplement
>>>> our income in our younger years by taking an
>>>> after-school job.
>>> We
>>>> have paid into the system, we should be able to get
>>>> 100% of what our payment would have been without STRS,
>>>> instead of a measly 25%.
>>>>
>>>> There are petitions rolling around the Internet, as
>>>> well as outside of stores (occasionally) to repeal
this
>>>> law. Stop by and sign it.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, California is not the only state that does this.
>>>> So do Missouri and Illinois, and about 10 others.
>>>>
>>>> For the record, I am NOT a person to think I'm
entitled
>>>> to anything. But if I paid into something, by George,
>>>> I'd like
>>> to
>>>> get it! If I had not worked outside of the CA STRS
>>>> system, I would say, OK, I don't get SS. Period.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Donna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Donna

That's only part of it. The kicker is you have to work in
SS-covered employment and make SUBSTANTIAL earnings to not
be affected by the offsets. I live in Oregon now, and just
five years in Nevada PERS means I am affected by the WEP.
I have some 32 years in working, but I only have 19 years
in "substantial earnings."

Earning SS and getting a pension are not "double dipping."
Never was--that was Reagan-era rhetoric.

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