Re: Teach For America, or other option?
    Posted by: mark on 4/23/16
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    On 4/23/16, tangelo wrote:
    > Thanks for the tips. I guess my follow up would be, why
    > attempt a masters if I'm only teaching high school, and only
    > need a teaching credential and my BA? Don't most attempt the
    > masters to help them enter college teaching? If so, I assume
    > most spend that time teaching HS, right? Thanks for the help,
    > just trying to clarify all this before starting. Ill look
    > into LAUSD for certification/interning you mentioned. But
    > again, I want to eventually teach at a CC, so hopefully I can
    > intern and attain my masters at the same time.

    In answer to your questions:

    1. "why attempt a masters if I'm only teaching high school, and
    only need a teaching credential and my BA?"

    I'll let the "only teaching high school" thing go, but be careful
    talking like that around teachers. College teachers aren't better
    or higher than HS teachers and HS teachers aren't better or higher
    than elementary... Back to your question: Teachers earn more
    money as they progress in education and in California, you pretty
    much need to complete a Masters degree to renew your credential.

    2. "Don't most attempt the masters to help them enter college
    teaching?"

    No. Most teachers earn a masters degree to renew their teaching
    credential and move up the salary chart. While it's not unheard
    of, it is rare for a high school teacher to earn a masters degree
    in the academic subject they teach. A Math teacher, for instance,
    doesn't get a Masters in Math. Typically, K-12 teachers get
    masters degrees in education, which can specialize in a number of
    things like: Curriculum and Instruction (being a better teacher),
    Educational Technology, Administration (becoming a Principal), or
    Counseling. I've never known a high school teacher to teach
    community college full time as it typically results in a pay cut
    once a teacher has a Masters and several years experience.

    3. "If so, I assume most spend that time teaching HS, right?"

    That's up to you, but I think you have one basic premise wrong.
    There is no pipeline from K-12 education to college teaching.
    Almost no college prof has significant experience teaching K-12...
    with the exception being profs who teach in colleges of education
    training future K-12 teachers.

    If your ultimate goal is to become a college prof, you're going
    about it the wrong way. You should talk to community college
    teachers to find out how they got their jobs. From what I
    understand, there are few full-time community college teachers.
    Many CCs now use adjunct (part-time) teachers. Most college profs
    I know went to grad school and got a doctorate in their academic
    subject. While CCs do accept teachers with Masters degree, the
    preference is for the PhD. If a college prof did teach K-12, they
    were essentially starting at the bottom in a new field. It would
    be like a teacher trying to break into IT..., it would be a career
    change.

    The relatively few K-12 teachers who become professors of
    education at a University's education department typically take a
    pay cut, at least in California, but they take the job for a
    variety of reasons. They're tired of dealing with kids, parents,
    the politics of public ed, or they have enough years to retire and
    get a pension and look at the prof job as a second income.


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  • Teach For America, or other option?, 4/22/16, by tangelo.
  • Re: Teach For America, or other option?, 4/23/16, by mark.
  • Re: Teach For America, or other option?, 4/23/16, by tangelo.
  • Re: Teach For America, or other option?, 4/23/16, by mark.
  • Re: Teach For America, or other option?, 4/24/16, by nah.
  • Re: Teach For America, or other option?, 4/24/16, by tangelo.
  • Re: Teach For America, or other option?, 4/24/16, by mark.
  • Re: Teach For America, or other option?, 4/28/16, by cc.
  • Re: Teach For America, or other option?, 5/07/16, by Cal-Kid.
  • Re: Teach For America, or other option?, 7/01/16, by Prof Phil.
  • Re: Teach For America, or other option?, 7/07/16, by Think twice.