On 8/21/08, r wrote:
> I am so frustrated. My hu is a science teacher. (chem and
> physics)we are living in IL
He can't get a job in Illinois? I'm in DuPage county and I
know of one Physics opening at one of our district's high
schools that is being filled by daily subs because they
couldn't get anyone with Physics. I know about it because
they're trying to force a tenured science teacher from our
middle school to fill the slot, but he's fighting it because
under our contract we can refuse transfers.
I know Physics is a high need field and the high school people
are always complaining of a lack of qualified applicants.
Chem too, but less. This is Chicagoland, I can't talk about
other parts of the state.
> and willing to go to
> Northeast,Midwest,Northwest,
The three regions of the country that, for the most part, are
not hiring.
some southwest states.
Here you might have something. Nevada is hiring, especially
Clark County. AZ and NM always seem to have many out of state
postions.
>
> He's had a few phone interviews, but nothing yet offer-
> wise...
To be honest, most districts or schools aren't going to hire
on a phone interview alone. It will require a trip. I know
Vegas and sometimes NYC makes trips to Chicago to recruit, but
smaller districts wouldn't have the resources.
> I'm
> in social services so I don't make much, and we want to
> get out of the city!
The city... Chicago? Yeah, very expensive, but I can't
believe he hasn't been contacted for interviews with CPS, if
he's applied. CPS is hurting for science, especially chem and
physics. If he's willing to go anywhere, CPS would probably
hire him this year, and remember, that window is just about
closed for this year. Its probably too late to move this year.
Beyond that, if you're applying from out of state, in my
experience, big city districts are realy the way to go. You
see, they need people because they're big and urban with all
the problems that go along with that, so they need people.
Also, based on their size, they usually need a lot of people.
So, districts like NYC, LA, and Las Vegas, and even Chicago
have experience dealing with out of staters and are willing to
work with them. Many other districts won't because they have
plenty of local applicants and who wants the extra hassel
worrying about someone from another state changing his mind
about moving, or not getting his certificate? When I moved to
Chicago, I had to go CPS, because small, suburban districts
wouldn't interview me. They were set up for local people.
So, I moved to Chicago, lived and worked there for a year, and
then was a local and jumped to the burbs.
> He'd prefer charter or private but
> public would be okay schoolwise.
....because he's allergic to money? I mean, charters and
privates don't pay much at all. Probably less than you make.
Something to think about.
> He has exemplary
> recommendation letters too.
As a person who reads these things, I'll tell you that they
ALL are excellent. An applicant would be foolish to submit
them if they weren't.
>
> why do out of state licenses cost so much? Why is there so
> much red tape for getting into other states?
Because they're completely different political units with
their own requirements and standards. They just don't take
Illinois' word for it that their teachers are qualified, and
we make their grads jump through some hoops. We have
standards, after all. We don't want some state with no
standards for teachers to become a Mecca for college students
to get a certificate, then the come back to their home state
and transfer easily, not knowing how to teach.
As far as the cost and red tape, I imagine its related to the
need of teachers in that state. So, a state like North
Carolina, which NEEDS teachers badly, has a relatively easy
licensing process, and a state like Michigan, which does NOT
need teachers at all has an expensive and time consuming
licensing process for out of staters.
Why are there
> so many ads and so little responses?
He might not be answering the right ads. OK, you want to
move, check out NYC, Baltimore, Prince George's Cnty, MD,
Charlotte, NC, Washington DC, Los Angeles, Oakland, Ca, San
Fran, Sacremento, Clark County, NV (Vegas), and Atlanta. I
KNOW these districts have programs for out of state applicants
with minimal travel.
Notice they're all big cities. Sorry, that one building
school district in a rural setting doesn't need your husband.
They have teachers local to that area to choose from and they
won't have the certification or relocation issues he'll have.
They can just hire him and go. Yeah, there are some more
rural areas that do hire, though he'll probably have to travel
to interview, but most of those districts aren't hiring now.
School's started.
Like I said, look around Chicagoland. I know there are jobs
there...
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