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Re: depressed spouse
Posted by Debbie on 8/28/08

    I hear ya!! My husband just graduated with his cert in
    Biology and there are no jobs here either. We are in Buffalo,
    NY. He was told that there are tons of science positions.
    Yeah, right!!! We are living on my income right now. He has
    put his name on the sub list. We are going to apply to the
    Carolina's and Georgia. I can tell you that TX and NM are
    hiring as well. But I really do not want to move to those
    areas and Nevada is not a place to raise children. We have 2
    kids and have friends that live out there. Plus their school
    system stinks. We have to look out for our kids too.

    Make sure you can afford to move to other cities. I don't
    think relocation packages are part of the critical shortage
    either.

    Debbie


    On 8/26/08, spedhead wrote:
    > On 8/21/08, r wrote:
    >> I am so frustrated. My hu is a science teacher. (chem and
    >> physics)we are living in IL
    >
    > He can't get a job in Illinois? I'm in DuPage county and I
    > know of one Physics opening at one of our district's high
    > schools that is being filled by daily subs because they
    > couldn't get anyone with Physics. I know about it because
    > they're trying to force a tenured science teacher from our
    > middle school to fill the slot, but he's fighting it because
    > under our contract we can refuse transfers.
    >
    > I know Physics is a high need field and the high school
    people
    > are always complaining of a lack of qualified applicants.
    > Chem too, but less. This is Chicagoland, I can't talk about
    > other parts of the state.
    >
    >> and willing to go to
    >> Northeast,Midwest,Northwest,
    >
    > The three regions of the country that, for the most part, are
    > not hiring.
    >
    > some southwest states.
    >
    > Here you might have something. Nevada is hiring, especially
    > Clark County. AZ and NM always seem to have many out of
    state
    > postions.
    >>
    >> He's had a few phone interviews, but nothing yet offer-
    >> wise...
    >
    > To be honest, most districts or schools aren't going to hire
    > on a phone interview alone. It will require a trip. I know
    > Vegas and sometimes NYC makes trips to Chicago to recruit,
    but
    > smaller districts wouldn't have the resources.
    >
    >> I'm
    >> in social services so I don't make much, and we want to
    >> get out of the city!
    >
    > The city... Chicago? Yeah, very expensive, but I can't
    > believe he hasn't been contacted for interviews with CPS, if
    > he's applied. CPS is hurting for science, especially chem
    and
    > physics. If he's willing to go anywhere, CPS would probably
    > hire him this year, and remember, that window is just about
    > closed for this year. Its probably too late to move this
    year.
    >
    > Beyond that, if you're applying from out of state, in my
    > experience, big city districts are realy the way to go. You
    > see, they need people because they're big and urban with all
    > the problems that go along with that, so they need people.
    > Also, based on their size, they usually need a lot of people.
    > So, districts like NYC, LA, and Las Vegas, and even Chicago
    > have experience dealing with out of staters and are willing
    to
    > work with them. Many other districts won't because they have
    > plenty of local applicants and who wants the extra hassel
    > worrying about someone from another state changing his mind
    > about moving, or not getting his certificate? When I moved
    to
    > Chicago, I had to go CPS, because small, suburban districts
    > wouldn't interview me. They were set up for local people.
    > So, I moved to Chicago, lived and worked there for a year,
    and
    > then was a local and jumped to the burbs.
    >
    >> He'd prefer charter or private but
    >> public would be okay schoolwise.
    >
    > ....because he's allergic to money? I mean, charters and
    > privates don't pay much at all. Probably less than you make.
    > Something to think about.
    >
    >> He has exemplary
    >> recommendation letters too.
    >
    > As a person who reads these things, I'll tell you that they
    > ALL are excellent. An applicant would be foolish to submit
    > them if they weren't.
    >>
    >> why do out of state licenses cost so much? Why is there so
    >> much red tape for getting into other states?
    >
    > Because they're completely different political units with
    > their own requirements and standards. They just don't take
    > Illinois' word for it that their teachers are qualified, and
    > we make their grads jump through some hoops. We have
    > standards, after all. We don't want some state with no
    > standards for teachers to become a Mecca for college students
    > to get a certificate, then the come back to their home state
    > and transfer easily, not knowing how to teach.
    >
    > As far as the cost and red tape, I imagine its related to the
    > need of teachers in that state. So, a state like North
    > Carolina, which NEEDS teachers badly, has a relatively easy
    > licensing process, and a state like Michigan, which does NOT
    > need teachers at all has an expensive and time consuming
    > licensing process for out of staters.
    >
    > Why are there
    >> so many ads and so little responses?
    >
    > He might not be answering the right ads. OK, you want to
    > move, check out NYC, Baltimore, Prince George's Cnty, MD,
    > Charlotte, NC, Washington DC, Los Angeles, Oakland, Ca, San
    > Fran, Sacremento, Clark County, NV (Vegas), and Atlanta. I
    > KNOW these districts have programs for out of state
    applicants
    > with minimal travel.
    >
    > Notice they're all big cities. Sorry, that one building
    > school district in a rural setting doesn't need your husband.
    > They have teachers local to that area to choose from and
    they
    > won't have the certification or relocation issues he'll have.
    > They can just hire him and go. Yeah, there are some more
    > rural areas that do hire, though he'll probably have to
    travel
    > to interview, but most of those districts aren't hiring now.
    > School's started.
    >
    > Like I said, look around Chicagoland. I know there are jobs
    > there...

     
     

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