Re: depressed spouse
Posted by MOM on 8/28/08

On 8/28/08, Debbie wrote:
> I hear ya!! My husband just graduated with his cert in
> Biology and there are no jobs here either. We are in Buffalo,
> NY. He was told that there are tons of science positions.
> Yeah, right!!! We are living on my income right now. He has
> put his name on the sub list. We are going to apply to the
> Carolina's and Georgia. I can tell you that TX and NM are
> hiring as well. But I really do not want to move to those
> areas and Nevada is not a place to raise children. We have 2
> kids and have friends that live out there. Plus their school
> system stinks. We have to look out for our kids too.
>
> Make sure you can afford to move to other cities. I don't
> think relocation packages are part of the critical shortage
> either.
>
> Debbie
>
New Mexico is NOT hiring be very careful with this kind of
advice if a city has a college of education then there is no
shortage.

>
> On 8/26/08, spedhead wrote:
>> On 8/21/08, r wrote:
>>> I am so frustrated. My hu is a science teacher. (chem and
>>> physics)we are living in IL
>>
>> He can't get a job in Illinois? I'm in DuPage county and I
>> know of one Physics opening at one of our district's high
>> schools that is being filled by daily subs because they
>> couldn't get anyone with Physics. I know about it because
>> they're trying to force a tenured science teacher from our
>> middle school to fill the slot, but he's fighting it because
>> under our contract we can refuse transfers.
>>
>> I know Physics is a high need field and the high school
> people
>> are always complaining of a lack of qualified applicants.
>> Chem too, but less. This is Chicagoland, I can't talk about
>> other parts of the state.
>>
>>> and willing to go to
>>> Northeast,Midwest,Northwest,
>>
>> The three regions of the country that, for the most part, are
>> not hiring.
>>
>> some southwest states.
>>
>> Here you might have something. Nevada is hiring, especially
>> Clark County. AZ and NM always seem to have many out of
> state
>> postions.
>>>
>>> He's had a few phone interviews, but nothing yet offer-
>>> wise...
>>
>> To be honest, most districts or schools aren't going to hire
>> on a phone interview alone. It will require a trip. I know
>> Vegas and sometimes NYC makes trips to Chicago to recruit,
> but
>> smaller districts wouldn't have the resources.
>>
>>> I'm
>>> in social services so I don't make much, and we want to
>>> get out of the city!
>>
>> The city... Chicago? Yeah, very expensive, but I can't
>> believe he hasn't been contacted for interviews with CPS, if
>> he's applied. CPS is hurting for science, especially chem
> and
>> physics. If he's willing to go anywhere, CPS would probably
>> hire him this year, and remember, that window is just about
>> closed for this year. Its probably too late to move this
> year.
>>
>> Beyond that, if you're applying from out of state, in my
>> experience, big city districts are realy the way to go. You
>> see, they need people because they're big and urban with all
>> the problems that go along with that, so they need people.
>> Also, based on their size, they usually need a lot of people.
>> So, districts like NYC, LA, and Las Vegas, and even Chicago
>> have experience dealing with out of staters and are willing
> to
>> work with them. Many other districts won't because they have
>> plenty of local applicants and who wants the extra hassel
>> worrying about someone from another state changing his mind
>> about moving, or not getting his certificate? When I moved
> to
>> Chicago, I had to go CPS, because small, suburban districts
>> wouldn't interview me. They were set up for local people.
>> So, I moved to Chicago, lived and worked there for a year,
> and
>> then was a local and jumped to the burbs.
>>
>>> He'd prefer charter or private but
>>> public would be okay schoolwise.
>>
>> ....because he's allergic to money? I mean, charters and
>> privates don't pay much at all. Probably less than you make.
>> Something to think about.
>>
>>> He has exemplary
>>> recommendation letters too.
>>
>> As a person who reads these things, I'll tell you that they
>> ALL are excellent. An applicant would be foolish to submit
>> them if they weren't.
>>>
>>> why do out of state licenses cost so much? Why is there so
>>> much red tape for getting into other states?
>>
>> Because they're completely different political units with
>> their own requirements and standards. They just don't take
>> Illinois' word for it that their teachers are qualified, and
>> we make their grads jump through some hoops. We have
>> standards, after all. We don't want some state with no
>> standards for teachers to become a Mecca for college students
>> to get a certificate, then the come back to their home state
>> and transfer easily, not knowing how to teach.
>>
>> As far as the cost and red tape, I imagine its related to the
>> need of teachers in that state. So, a state like North
>> Carolina, which NEEDS teachers badly, has a relatively easy
>> licensing process, and a state like Michigan, which does NOT
>> need teachers at all has an expensive and time consuming
>> licensing process for out of staters.
>>
>> Why are there
>>> so many ads and so little responses?
>>
>> He might not be answering the right ads. OK, you want to
>> move, check out NYC, Baltimore, Prince George's Cnty, MD,
>> Charlotte, NC, Washington DC, Los Angeles, Oakland, Ca, San
>> Fran, Sacremento, Clark County, NV (Vegas), and Atlanta. I
>> KNOW these districts have programs for out of state
> applicants
>> with minimal travel.
>>
>> Notice they're all big cities. Sorry, that one building
>> school district in a rural setting doesn't need your husband.
>> They have teachers local to that area to choose from and
> they
>> won't have the certification or relocation issues he'll have.
>> They can just hire him and go. Yeah, there are some more
>> rural areas that do hire, though he'll probably have to
> travel
>> to interview, but most of those districts aren't hiring now.
>> School's started.
>>
>> Like I said, look around Chicagoland. I know there are jobs
>> there...

Posts on this thread, including this one

• depressed spouse, 8/21/08, by r.
• Re: depressed spouse, 8/25/08, by rose.
• Re: depressed spouse, 8/26/08, by spedhead.
• Re: depressed spouse, 8/28/08, by Debbie.
• Re: depressed spouse, 8/28/08, by MOM.
• Re: depressed spouse, 8/28/08, by not depressed spouse, now stressed spouse.