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Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!
Posted by Mark on 6/17/09
On 6/17/09, Elena wrote: > First of all, not all areas of the country have unions. > Many of the states in the south are "right to work states" > in which there is no collective bargaining. Where I teach, > there is no such thing as tenure. You know, unions didn't just pop up in those states that have pro-union laws. People fought for them, sometimes literally. The Sit-Down Strike in Flint, MI, comes to mine, the actual blow-to-blow fighting against Henry Ford's goons is another example. Its actually hard times like these where unions gain strength. People realize they're expendable, get treated as such, and organize, instead of just slinking off to find another readily available job. Its not easy, but in my opinion, not just in teaching, but throughout America our way of life is being threatened. If we're serious about preserving the "American Dream," we might need to put some work in, especially in the right-to-work states. Laws can be changed if people mobilize. Heck, people in IRAN, where they shoot women for showing some ankle, are protesting for their rights right now! Are we so fat and lazy that we can't. Are they going to have to starve that mentality out of us through unemployment and suffering until we get that hunger back? Will it be too late? Just questions to ponder... > To me anyway, an average salary of $50,000 is not > great. You cannot afford to buy a home, send children to > college, or travel internationally on such a salary. Most people who I know who do the things you mentioned above do so as a professional couple. That's TWO people earning $50,000+. Of course it depends on where you live, as far as home ownership, but a combined income of 100,000 or more should enable someone to own a home (though maybe not a 500,000 5BDRM home in a posh neighborhood), send their kids to college (though Duke or Yale would be hard) and travel (though maybe not 5 weeks in Europe every year). If someone has a family (assumed because you mentioned sending kids to college) and they choose to be a one income family, then they choose to make sacrifices. However, I was single and a teacher for several years before getting marred. I didn't own a "home," but I did own a 2 bedroom condo, which was more than enough for one person. I also managed to save quite a bit of money (more than I seem to now as part of a 2 income couple) and traveled a lot, including internationally. I also know single teachers, and married for that matter, who try to live the lifestyle of a rock star or even a rich banker, and they just end up in debt and unhappy. They have $500 meals at trendy downtown restaurants and drop the same at a nightclub on a regular basis, and complain teaching doesn't pay enough. It certainly doesn't pay enough for that lifestyle, and you shouldn't get into the profession if that's what you want. >
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- "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/17/09, by job-seeker.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/17/09, by Elena.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/17/09, by pixie.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/17/09, by Marina.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/17/09, by WEK.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/17/09, by SpecEd Teacher.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/17/09, by Mark.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/17/09, by Mark.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/18/09, by job seeker.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/18/09, by NC teacher.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/18/09, by mark.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/19/09, by Marina.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/19/09, by NC teacher.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/19/09, by kate.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/19/09, by mark.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/20/09, by julia.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 6/20/09, by Catsister.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/01/09, by mel.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/14/09, by teaching in PA.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/14/09, by Compared to what?.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/14/09, by mark.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/14/09, by anon.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/14/09, by sped.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/15/09, by PA Teacher.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/16/09, by sped.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/20/09, by maybe I'm bitter.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/20/09, by deal with it.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/21/09, by Sympathetic.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/21/09, by deal with it.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/21/09, by sped.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/21/09, by maybe I'm bitter.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/21/09, by sped.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/22/09, by No one gets a "contract" here.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/22/09, by Pa Teacher.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/22/09, by Joe.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/22/09, by let me clarify.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/22/09, by Not as easy in ALL states.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/22/09, by Elena.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/22/09, by let me clarify once again.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/22/09, by Oh New York.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/23/09, by Joe.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/23/09, by Clarification.
- Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!, 7/23/09, by Elena.
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