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Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!
Posted by sped on 7/16/09

    On 7/14/09, anon wrote:
    >
    > You've got to be kidding about teaching being desirable. Read
    > the NAPTA site, endteacherabuse.org, and be informed.

    Bitter sites created by bitter, rejected teachers.

    You
    > really and truly don't want to jump into the snake pit called
    > education and be unlucky enough to work for a mentally
    > unstable principal who can ruin your career at the stroke of a
    > pen.

    You don't want to work anywhere where that can happen, in
    teaching or out. It's very, very rare.
    >
    > Teaching is not what it was 30 years ago. NCLB and the
    > privatization mob have ruined it. It's now disposable
    > teachers, rampant age discrimination, and administrator abuse
    > gone wild.

    Again Anon, I've seen your posts before, and I believe you
    mentioned you were in rural Nevada. You chose to live in a
    state with weak union laws, one that doesn't value teachers, and
    that treats you as you describe. If you lived in New York, or
    Illinois, you would've had a much different experience. In IL,
    I can't dispose of a teacher if I wanted to, and trust me as
    that I'm taking over my district's 3 middle school sped
    departments, there are a couple I would LOVE to dispose of and
    who deserve it. I can't fire a tenured teacher without
    basically video and written evidence of incompetence,
    significant and expensive attempts at remediation, and multiple
    individuals testifying at a board hearing. And then, if the
    board chooses to dismiss, it could go to court and the burden of
    proof becomes more serious.

    In any event, the private sector has nothing approaching tenure.
    You are an at-will employee, and after 30 years you can be
    terminated with no reason, and there's no hearing at all. Even
    week tenure states usually have some type of due process.

    You also might realize that while teaching might have changed in
    the past 30 years, so have most professions. Try getting a job
    in the US as an Engineer! Better move to Calcutta and learn to
    live on $5 an hour, because there aren't jobs here. You can't
    ship teaching overseas, and so many people are making that choice.


    >
    > Who needs it? You couldn't pay a sane person enough money to
    > put up with it.
    >
    > On 6/17/09, job-seeker wrote:
    >> Hi. I'm throwing this out for discussion......
    >>
    >> Years ago, teachers were considered underpaid, overworked,
    >> generally a lousy profession. But this seems to be a thing
    >> of the past.
    >>
    >> Since teachers have been unionized, they have a pretty
    >> good situation. Benefits, pension, tenure, union lawyers,
    >> paid training, long vacations...As for salaries, in my
    >> state (new hampshire....a rural state) the average salary
    >> is $50,000.
    >>
    >> To become a teacher, you only need a bachelors in
    >> education. This is why the job market is flooded with
    >> teachers and it is no longer easy to find teaching
    >> positions.
    >>
    >> Getting a teachers contract in a public school is VERY
    >> desirable, not what it used to be! Any thoughts?

     
     

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