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Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!
Posted by deal with it on 7/21/09

    I do understand that it is a situation that nobody would want to be in,
    however there are risks no matter what you do. What I was driving at is
    the fact that I don't agree with the feeling that everyone is entitled
    to a job. I live in the state of PA and our "wonderful" governor has
    yet to pass a state budget. Because of this fact, many of our state
    employees may go without a paycheck until the issue is resolved...which
    doesn't look like it will happen anytime soon. I feel bad for people in
    cases like that because they still have a job and are expected to work
    for free...the employer is not holding up their end of the bargain.

    When it comes to teaching, lets make this very very clear. Teaching is
    a profession just like any other, I truly believe that and I approach my
    job that way every single day. But teachers need to wake up and realize
    that what we have done to become a teacher is nothing special. 21 year
    olds do it by the thousands, and everyone who enters the field of
    education must come to terms that the market is very very saturated. If
    you can not find a job for whatever reason....deal with it. It's not
    like someone just came up and said "oh by the way, there's a ton of
    teachers so in the case of a hiring freeze, budget problems, etc you
    still have a good shot at getting a job. Even without the hiring freeze
    I'm happy to hear that some people are turned away from teaching.
    Address the problem where it starts. Make the requirements to teach in
    America harder, and people wouldn't have as much problems getting a job.
    I am not familiar with the teaching population in the state of NY, but
    you have mentioned the places that are desirable and have little
    turnover. I wonder how many of those districts hire very young teachers
    right out of college (not being bitter about them...because I was one of
    those). Although I am a part of that group, I was just shocked as to
    how easy it was. And I wonder how many of those teachers are
    incompetent, but due to tenure they remain there.

    On 7/21/09, Sympathetic wrote:
    > Your response is seriously lacking in compassion. Not everybody can
    > afford to pack up everything and relocate. I was born and raised in
    > New York. If there is a hiring freeze in the city system, things
    > are worse in the surrounding suburbs. Long Island and Westchester
    > are very desirable places in which to teach but there is very little
    > turnover. If you are not related to an administrator or
    > superintendent, it is almost impossible to be hired.
    >
    > I would like to see you in a position where you can't earn a living
    > and you have a mortgage, car payment, and kids to support over your
    > head.
    >
    > On 7/20/09, deal with it wrote:
    >> I agree that your situation happens from time to time...but
    > becoming
    >> bitter and angry towards people is not the best way to go out your
    >> business. If there is a hiring freeze in New York...instead of
    >> complain and blame your former principal for your problems...go
    >> somewhere else. I know that that might seem a little harsh, but I
    >> am sick and tired of people expecting to just be able to find a
    > job
    >> in education. It should be hard to get a job, and I am actually
    >> HAPPY to hear that some people can't seem to maintain their
    >> employment or find a job in the first place. I personally believe
    >> that it is way to easy to become a teacher, and stories like yours
    >> actually make me happy. DEAL WITH IT and quit being bitter
    >>
    >>
    >> On 7/20/09, maybe I'm bitter wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Again Anon, I've seen your posts before, and I believe you
    >>>> mentioned you were in rural Nevada. You chose to live in a
    >>>> state with weak union laws, one that doesn't value teachers, and
    >>>> that treats you as you describe. If you lived in New York, or
    >>>> Illinois, you would've had a much different experience.
    >>>
    >>> Dear Sped, let me disagree. While a lot depends on one's personal
    >> experience and
    >>> luck, and let's not get drunk with generalizations, but
    >> unfortunately, speaking from my
    >>> own situations: even though I live in NY (specifically, NYC) I
    > was
    >> treated exactly as the
    >>> previous poster described. And my union wasn't able (or willing)
    >> to help me. I was a
    >>> first year untenured teacher and was forced to resign (against my
    >> will) by my principal
    >>> who almost ruined my career. I didn't feel valued or protected.
    >> Yes, maybe on paper
    >>> things sound wonderful, but in reality if you get in an
    >> unfortunate situation, you might
    >>> very easily become a bitter teacher for very good reasons. I am
    >> not loosing hope and
    >>> am ready to "get back on horse" but now having trouble securing a
    >> position with the
    >>> hiring freeze here in NYC...

     
     

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