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Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!
Posted by sped on 7/21/09

    On 7/20/09, maybe I'm bitter wrote:


    >I was treated exactly as the
    > previous poster described. And my union wasn't able (or willing)
    to >help me. I was a
    > first year untenured teacher and was forced to resign (against my
    >will) by my principal who almost ruined my career.

    No, you weren't treated EXACTLY as the previous poster. That poster
    had been a teacher for several years, actually it had to be many
    years because she believes she was fired to avoid "vesting" in
    retirement. In strong union states, tenured teachers are not fired
    like she was. Of course, she did have a hearing, which even in weak
    tenure states, implies there are some rights of review before
    termination. There are few fields with even that level of protection.

    Also, I've seen her outbursts on this board before. I think she has
    the same post saved as a Word Doc and just posts it every so often
    to rant.

    You were a first year teacher. I don't know your situation, but I
    do know that districts have the right to fire new teachers. They
    SHOULD have the right to fire new teachers. Not everyone is cut out
    for the job, and/or not everyone is a fit in their first job. I'm
    sure you were railroaded or whatever... I'm not interested in
    arguing that, but you were a first-year teacher and you were let go.
    I don't want first year teachers to have tenure on the first day,
    and there probably isn't that much difference between strong union
    states and weak for new teachers, except maybe on the benefit and
    salary side. Once you've been in the job for awhile, though, the
    difference between strong tenure states and weak begin to become
    apparent. Why keep someone making 80 grand per year, when you could
    cut their old butts and get a 22 YO to work for 35? This is one of
    the reasons why many weak union states don't have good salary and
    benefits in the first place. People with high tenure will price
    themselves out of their jobs.

    > I didn't feel valued or protected. Yes, maybe on paper
    > things sound wonderful, but in reality if you get in an
    >unfortunate situation, you might
    > very easily become a bitter teacher for very good reasons.

    Well, I'll be blunt. You weren't valued or protected. As a first
    year teacher, you can be let go. It's the way of the world. If
    unions protect newbies who can't do the job, or aren't a good fit,
    then they are TOO powerful. They can make sure all the paperwork
    and observations are done correctly, but otherwise they can't make
    the district keep you as a first year. Again, I wouldn't want them
    too.

     
     

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