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Re: "the myth of underpaid teachers" no longer true!
Posted by sped on 7/21/09

    On 7/21/09, maybe I'm bitter wrote:
    > I'm sorry, but I must say that this sound pretty aggressive. This
    board exists for people to
    > be able to freely express their opinions/ feelings. No one is forced
    to read it.

    True, and I'm free to express my opinions about their opinions. And,
    the fact that said poster's opinions include that teachers have no
    rights anywhere in the country, when in fact teachers have above average
    to excellent employment rights compared to most other professions, I
    feel it's necessary to bring up a point of reason.

    > If one has
    > never been in a situation on the job where they were abused, it's
    >difficult to understand
    > someone else's emotions.

    Ah, but I have. Well, I haven't been "abused," but I have been in
    situations that were less than ideal, not what I was hired to do, and
    the people evaluating me kept getting me mixed up with someone else
    new, in the same department, and who had the same first name (he got
    non-renewed too... I wonder if one of us didn't deserve it and the other
    did, but they just decided to nix us both because they couldn't sort out
    who was who). I have been non-renewed once, and laid off once. I moved
    on, have taught successfully in an above average suburban Chicago
    district for years, and am now a sped administrator in that district.

    Point is, it goes both ways. You're allowed to freely express your
    opinions, but so is everyone else. That's kind of the point...

    > The problem with NYC, there is only one board of ed. If you are "let
    go" with
    > "discontinuance" from one school, that means you can't be hired by any
    other of 1500
    > schools in the city. That seems to me a little harsh. I would've been
    happy to leave the
    > school and find a "better fit", but that wasn't given to me as an option.

    Well, if Bank of America fired you at a branch in NYC, they wouldn't
    hire you in Boston. You live in one big district, that's the way it is.
    If you look at it objectively, as a tax payer and possibly a parent who
    sends kids to the district, why would you want your kid's school to hire
    teachers fired with cause from another school in the district?

    > I wish the union AT LEAST made "sure all the paperwork and
    observations are done
    > correctly" which was not the case.

    Did you ask them to?

    > I sincerely hope that misconducts of such nature are
    > less prevalent outside NYC.

    They are not. First year (second, third, etc.) teachers get fired until
    they have tenure. I don't know how long that takes in NYC.

    I don't know your contract or anything about teaching in NY. However,
    in IL and in my district, you can have good observations and not be
    rehired. You don't need a reason at all. Now, being terminated with a
    bar to rehire would take more documentation (though a non-rehire
    probably isn't getting back into my district even without an official
    termination, but we're relatively small).

     
     

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