What I'd like to know is who created the TI? How much were they paid to create such a b.s.
test? How much of the New York City Department of Ed. money was wasted for that?
Not only was that test rediculous, it was a waste of time. I was accepted in the "New Teacher
Finder" or how I like to call it, "The No Teaching Positions Application". I have logged onto
that thing almost twice a day before they announced the NYC hiring freeze. Now what? Just
sit and wait. All the money I have wasted on my degree, state tests, certification, has been a
waste thus far... b/c here I am three years later still a substitute teacher who cannot make
ends meet.
As far as the way teachers in America teach, it really is a joke. I have seen classrooms that
have spun out of control b/c the teacher has no control whatsoever. The children have no
boundaries. Students need boundaries and they need to pay attention. They must be
responsible for their own work. We give grades to leniently, always curving or passing. I
believe that we should teach like the Chinese, only letting students move onto the next grade
level when they have mastered the content. Making them actually WORK, not let them GEY BY.
Challenge them so they reach optimum potential. Parents need to get on board with this too,
respect teachers and administrators need to stop bending for parents and back their
personnel.
On 6/28/09, rich wrote:
> On 6/28/09, mark wrote:
>> On 6/28/09, Miss Independent wrote:
>>
>>
>> And yet we determine a district's performance based upon
>> standardized testing. In my state, a district and it's [its]
> students are evaluated upon test scores, and only test scores.
> Still, this is
>> what the people want. They want hard numbers where they can keep
>> score. They want some way where they can rank districts and
>> students. It's much the same way with the TI test.
>
> Actually, it's not at all.
>
> Standardized test: measures knowledge which can be normed against a
> standard. Tests the content taught in schools. Are made common
> knowledge. Scores are sometimes made public. Much time is spent
> preparing students. The ultimate goal is for all students to do
> well.
>
> Standardized interviews: measures judgements, values, beliefs, and
> reactions which cannot be accurately normed against a standard. The
> content of the questions does not match the content taught as
> professional knowledge. They are kept secret, and the people taking
> them are not allowed to know their score. There is no preparation
> allowed. The ultimate goal is for only a few to perform well.
>
> While we strive to eliminate as much bias as possible from
> standardized tests because they are mandatory, the TI is completely
> designed to discriminate against something. And that something
> could be affected by cultural, race, or background. Would you like
> a fluently bilingual Chinese math teacher? Wouldn't that be a great
> asset to your math department? Do you think the TI might present a
> little problem in hiring that person?
>
> Is the TI an interview or a test? I think that is the legal
> question. If it is a test, and white males over 40 consistently get
> screened out, it's discriminatory and breaks federal law. We might
> not know how it discriminates, but if we look at the demographics of
> those who "pass," they better look like the demographic of the whole
> population who takes it.
>
>
>>> Complaints aside, does anyone have any test taking advice specific
>>> to the TeacherInsight?
>>
>> If you mean the Teacher Insight on-line survey which is usually
>> given as part of an on-line application, I would suggest selecting
>> the most student centered response which focuses on all students
>> learning. Never pick the response that focuses on the teacher's
>> thoughts or feelings.
>>
> I always, always do this, and it hasn't helped me. But it's still
> the only advice that I have ever heard.
>
> Is there an administrator version of the TI?