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Re: just need to get my thoughts on paper...
Posted by Incognito on 10/21/09

    I ran into all of that also...I'm not saying that it's all their
    fault either, but boy, I ADMIRE people that can navigate the
    teaching maze for sure. The ministry's got its problems too, but at
    least for me I don't think it'll be anything like teaching school.

    On 10/20/09, anon wrote:
    > At least you got of it while you were still ahead. Other
    > teachers, like myself, were not so lucky and ended up wrongfully
    > and illegally fired with NO job prospects at all thanks to these
    > crooks at my former school district.
    >
    > I would never, ever, ever go into education knowing what I know
    > now. It isn't the kids, it's the jerks who run the schools who
    > are the problem and their absolute, dictatorial power they have
    > over teachers.
    >
    >
    >
    > On 10/20/09, Incognito wrote:
    >> I'm sorry you feel that way, but yes, I did own my part in it.
    >> My worst mistake was going into teaching with a "change the
    >> world" attitude, which is, at best, a pipe dream. I DID make a
    >> lot of mistakes and I'm not arrogant by any means, but people
    >> have to be careful about their career choices...Insofar as
    >> myself, I feel MUCH better about my second career choice and I
    >> already helped some people with the sermonettes I have delivered
    >> at my church...however, being a pastor is every bit as
    >> challenging as being a teacher and I know that. People who want
    >> to go into teaching, preaching, anthropology, law or whatever
    >> have to make darn sure it's the right move for them. They need
    >> to pray on it, which is something I never did with teaching...if
    >> I had, I might have saved a lot of administrators some grief. I
    >> hope that clarifies some things.
    >>
    >> On 10/20/09, So let's see wrote:
    >>> it's not your fault that you lost your first teaching job
    >>> it's not your fault that you lost your second teaching job
    >>> i'ts not your fault that you lost your most recent teaching
    >>> job
    >>> it's not your fault that you were arrested for domestic
    >>> violence
    >>> it's not your fault that the police harassed you...
    >>>
    >>> Man, I hope you don't take this attitude with your flock!
    >>> Personal responsibility. Try it some time.
    >>>
    >>> On 10/19/09, Incognito wrote:
    >>>> In 2007 I received a B.A. in elementary education from a
    >>>> university in Colorado. I immediately began looking for
    >>>> teaching jobs, both in-state and out-of-state, and landed
    >>>> one at a school district in Arizona. To make a long story
    >>>> short, I did not even last until Christmas. I was placed
    >>>> in a 6th grade classroom with 35 students that even the
    >>>> most experienced teacher would have some trouble with. I
    >>>> made a lot of mistakes and came across as "playing
    >>>> favorites" which got me in serious hot water with many of
    >>>> the parents (one who even called me every name in the book
    >>>> that she could think of during a conference) The stress
    >>>> literally almost killed me. I was having suicidal thoughts
    >>>> and almost developed a drinking problem. My marriage
    >>>> suffered badly, and the people renting my house back home
    >>>> almost wrecked it because they were remodeling it without
    >>>> my permission. Well, to make a long story short, they
    >>>> asked me to resign by Christmas and I did. I didn't give
    >>>> up (yet) and began looking again, finding a job two weeks
    >>>> later at a private school in a large city in the colder
    >>>> eastern U.S. I thought things would go better in this
    >>>> situation, but they did not. I only had 13 students but
    >>>> the class was FULL of BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS and I only made it
    >>>> a month there. When I got there, I was all gung-ho and was
    >>>> getting ready to go the local grocery store to buy some
    >>>> school supplies and promptly got into an accident that
    >>>> disabled my car...so here I am, a thousand miles away from
    >>>> home, no car, no wife or family, and a class full of
    >>>> behavior problems. I was out of teaching again that year
    >>>> by February. I STILL did not give up. I waited until March
    >>>> and began applying to different districts in my home state
    >>>> of Colorado once more. I landed a job in as an ESL teacher
    >>>> in a district in a mountainous part of Colorado. I THOUGHT
    >>>> that finally, I had found a job where I would be suitable
    >>>> for, and it kind of was. There were some positives to this
    >>>> experience, no question. One particular girl said her
    >>>> FIRST WORDS of english to me and I still, to this day, get
    >>>> a kick out of that. However, I was an outsider in this
    >>>> community and was continually (for the first time in my
    >>>> life) harrassed by law enforcement. Every thing that could
    >>>> have went wrong, went wrong. Last November things came to
    >>>> a head when I was arrested for domestic violence. My wife
    >>>> and I were living in a little holiday rambler trailer and
    >>>> I hit a little plywood table in frustration and it fell
    >>>> off its hinges and collapsed. I have LEANED on that table
    >>>> and have broke it. I was labeled a batterer and ALMOST
    >>>> lost my teaching job once again. I made the mistake of
    >>>> telling the police man that I was going to kill myself and
    >>>> was prompting placed in a suicide smock and kept to myself
    >>>> at the jail. However, a funny thing happened when I was in
    >>>> that jail cell. I realized that teaching was probably not
    >>>> for me. I've always been a spiritual person, so the first
    >>>> time in quite a while I started praying. I remembered how
    >>>> when I was sixteen I felt "called" to become a Christian
    >>>> minister, and so I basically bargained with God. I told
    >>>> God in my prayer: "All right God, if you get me out of
    >>>> this and get me my job back I promise you I will take
    >>>> steps to become a pastor. Just get my job back. And Lord,
    >>>> if you want me to be a pastor, you've got to work on me, I
    >>>> have a lot of baggage and I'm no where near ready." (I was
    >>>> drunk when I prayed this, btw) To make a long story short,
    >>>> I did eventually get a deferred judgment and was able to
    >>>> continue at my job. I did not finish the year; I only made
    >>>> it to March. However, the more I studied becoming a
    >>>> pastor, the less interested I was in being a teacher and
    >>>> by March I had already decided that I would not look for
    >>>> another teaching job at the end of the year. I was
    >>>> accepted into a nationally-recognized online bible college
    >>>> and seminary in May and let me tell you, I have enjoyed my
    >>>> classes ten times as much as I did my education classes! I
    >>>> guess the moral to my story is that having everything
    >>>> possible go wrong with me in education these past three
    >>>> years that maybe, possibly it wasn't meant for me to be a
    >>>> teacher, at least at the elementary or secondary level.
    >>>> Examine your motives and whether you are really meant to
    >>>> be a teacher. If you are and "you know that you know" then
    >>>> be patient, you will find something. Otherwise, it would
    >>>> be just like me attempting to fit a square board into a
    >>>> round peg. As for me, I am going to continue being a
    >>>> prayer warrior, serve others, and studying my Bible to be
    >>>> the best pastor possible in the future! Thanks for letting
    >>>> me get this off my chest.

     
     

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