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    Re: Mandatory summer school
    Posted by Tessa- FL on 8/06/08

    On 8/05/08, Kim/AR/math wrote:
    > I thought students who failed the state test were required
    > to receive remediation, but the states had control over how
    > how that is implemented.
    >
    > In AR, each district/school decides how remediation will be
    > implemented. My school has double blocked math and English
    > classes in the past. I liked the double blocking, and saw it
    > as beneficial to those students who were below grade level.
    > I can't speak to the effectiveness of summer school, but I
    > agree with you that those long summers put some students
    > further behind. I think that is one of the reasons that many
    > schools are going to year round schools.
    >
    > One complaint about NCLB that I read alot is that it expects
    > every child to learn at the same rate. Teachers complain
    > that students are being tested on material that they are not
    > ready for. This argument always astounds me. What is wrong
    > with testing 4th graders on 4th grade material, 5th graders
    > on 5th grade material etc? If a student can not do 4th grade
    > work, then why is he in 4th grade? (I am not speaking about
    > sped students here.)

    Kim, have you ever taught title 1? Try it sometime, you'll see
    why testing a 4th grader on 4th grade material doesn't work.
    These kids move from town to town to town, country to country,
    and are never able to get a solid backgroud in anything. So
    what should we do, keep those kids in 3rd grade when they're 14
    years old? Some of them will never pass the test and are
    destined to work at McDonalds. There's nothing wrong with that,
    but there's something wrong with punishing schools who can't
    teach children who are unable to learn. When a kid has an IQ of
    72 (like one of my students) he will never be on grade level.
    Because of this low IQ, he wasn't qualified for SPED because he
    was "performing at the level expected for his IQ." Should we
    keep him in elementary school until age 18?

    We had a debate at my school over where to place a new 11 year
    old: in 2nd grade where he belongs academically, or in 4th
    grade where he should be socially. His drug addict momma never
    sent him to school before. Of course he was put in 2nd grade
    because he'd flunk the state test and make our school look bad.
    He left and is some other school now (his 3rd school in 2
    years.) I'm guessing that you don't have many problems like
    this where you teach.

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  • Mandatory summer school, 8/03/08, by AYP rates.
  • Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/04/08, by Tessa- 1st / FL.
  • Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/05/08, by Kim/AR/math.
  • Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/06/08, by Tessa- FL.
  • Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/08/08, by Kim/AR/math.
  • Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/08/08, by Tessa- FL.
  • Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/08/08, by Kim/AR/math.
  • Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/08/08, by Tessa- FL.
  • Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/17/08, by OP.

     
     

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