Re: Mandatory summer school
Posted by Tessa- FL on 8/08/08
On 8/08/08, Kim/AR/math wrote:
> I have never taught elementary school, but I do teach in a
> district that has title 1. Why do you say it doesn't work? Because
> the kids fail? If the student can not do 4th grade work, and he
> fails the test, then it seems to me the test does work. It is an
> accurate reflection of the child's ability.
>
>
Yes, the test does it's job. The problem is that NCLB uses it to
punish the school as if it's the school's fault for not teaching them
(AYP, school grades, etc). Why are we blamed when kids come and go
year in and year out? Our population, and the poor choices they make,
is not our fault. Also, where we are, a student can be in third grade
for 3 years due to not passing the FCAT (if they fail twice they
repeat. On the third failure we give up and pass them to 4th.) Like I
said, some will never pass the test. We can't keep them in third
grade forever.
>
> No, I don't think that is the answer. But I don't think passing
> them along like everything is ok is the answer either. Like I
> said, my school has had some success with double blocking. I also
> like the idea of ALEs. My district has one in the high school, and
> this year will be adding one at the elementary level.
>
I don't know what ALE is. If we don't pass them along, then they are
years older than their peers. I don't see how this is good. It
humiliates and frustrates them. But if we pass them along, they never
catch up, again they are humiliated and frustrated. There's no good
answer.
>
> I have encountered situations like you described where student's
> IQ doesn't qualify him for sped. No, I think he should be in an
> ALE.
>
> If a student will never be on grade level, then do you think he
> really deserves a diploma stating he has completed 12th grade,
> when he is actually being taught at a 7th grade level?
>
>
> >
> I think there should be more alternatives like I described above.
>
I agree, students shouldn't graduate on 7th grade material. But to be
honest these kids will drop out the minute they turn 16 so it's not
really an issue. After years of failing they can't wait to be done.
The issue is how do we teach them without humiliation (being held
back again and again) and how do the schools avoid humiliation.
Posts on this thread, including this one
- Mandatory summer school, 8/03/08, by AYP rates.
- Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/04/08, by Tessa- 1st / FL.
- Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/05/08, by Kim/AR/math.
- Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/06/08, by Tessa- FL.
- Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/08/08, by Kim/AR/math.
- Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/08/08, by Tessa- FL.
- Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/08/08, by Kim/AR/math.
- Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/08/08, by Tessa- FL.
- Re: Mandatory summer school, 8/17/08, by OP.
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