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I guess you're also not able to understand what my post actually says,
either.

I BELIEVE I just said EXACTLY what you just said.

On 11/01/09, Sheila wrote:
> Sorry your school is not trained properly on how to use AR and you
> have not taken the initiative to understand it yourself. You can
> read novels in class AND take AR tests as I do. Right now my class
> is reading Number the Stars. You can watch a movie too, but you
> will more than likely get no more than 40% of the questions right
> (WHICH RESULTS IN 0 AR POINTS)since the people at AR know that and
> make the questions about things that WEREN'T in the movie! No need
> to respond. I am not interested in hearing anymore about this.
>
> On 10/31/09,
>
>
> The RIGHT Carolyn wrote:
>> I don't "HATE" it, I just don't see how it improves reading
>> comprehension or motivation.
>>
>> Ironically, I just received an email from a parent upset with me
>> over the AR report her child is getting. As a result of her
>> student not "understanding" he was supposed to do AR this past
>> quarter, he received a "not meeting goals" on his report card.
>>
>> Now, I READILY admit I did NOT tell him he was to be doing AR. I
>> assumed he already knew what it was. See, that's the problem I am
>> having. The person who is compiling the data and basically
>> running the system did not inform me that I was actually "in
>> charge" of the students reaching their goals. Hence, a new
>> student to the school who didn't know a darn thing about AR went
>> the entire quarter clueless about it (as was I)
>>
>> That's the reason why I do not like the way this system is set
>> up. We are reading a novel in class and the students are fully
>> comprehending this novel. THAT is more accurate of a
>> comprehension measurement to me, as a teacher, than a software
>> program with 22 questions in it. I don't understand how a student
>> who gets an A from me in regards to the standard "demonstrates
>> literal comprehension" in MY class, can fail that on an AR test.
>> Does this make sense?
>>
>> I also had a student who took NUMEROUS AR tests, and failed MOST
>> of them. So, she's not comprehending them either. Is it MY fault
>> she's not comprehending books she's read independently? No, it is
>> not. Is it my job to analyze the data and "fix" this problem?
>> Yes, it is. Is that fair? No, it is not.
>>
>> I have been given NO guidance, except for my co teacher who went
>> over the reports with me, on AR this past Friday. I have tried
>> numerous times to access the information, but cannot even sign on
>> to the system. Yet, I am being expected to monitor this and fix
>> issues on books I haven't read myself? THAT is my overall issue I
>> have with this.
>>
>> By the way, the parent told me that her child told her that a lot
>> of the kids in my school are going to see the movie versions of
>> the book, then taking AR tests for points. Since I consider this
>> cheating, I consider this evidence that AR is not an accurate way
>> to measure reading achievement. I can safely bet that many, many
>> students across the country are doing that very same thing --
>> cheating by seeing the movie just for the sake of wracking up
>> their point totals.
>>
>> Just my thoughts.
>>
>> On 9/28/09, Deb ms/IA wrote:
>>> This was addressed to Carolyn it wasn't from Carolyn.
>>> Carolyn has torn apart AR since her first post. Her school
>>> is implementing AR incorrectly and Carolyn hates AR with a
>>> passion and states that quiet often on this board. Instead
>>> of making changes and using AR properly she just complains.
>>> Sorry for the confusion on your part. It was meant to
>>> address Carolyn and the fact I don't get all her whining.
>>>
>>> Deb ms/IA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/26/09, I don't get you Carolyn wrote:
>>>>>> 60 percent on any work isn't passing work in some
>>>>>> grading scales. It doesn't matter if its a book
>>>>>> talk on a book or any type of project on a book 60
>>>>>> percent isn't that great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your ignorance/intolerance/anger with AR is
>>>>>> showing. AR is not all about numbers nor is it
>>>>>> about punishing kids. Please, you and your school
>>>>>> need training on how to properly run AR. When you
>>>>>> get that training, implement that training then
>>>>>> come back and issue your opinions on AR. Until then
>>>>>> stop your whining and complaining. Do something
>>>>>> about the problem!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/26/09, Carolyn wrote:
>>>>>>> I think focusing on points instead of reading
>>>>>>> enjoyment and comprehension is the wrong way to
>>>>>>> look at learning. That makes it all about a
>>>>>>> number to obtain, not the material from the book.
>>>>>>> Kids at my school get punished for not making
>>>>>>> their goals. This is not a motivating factor,
>>>>>>> it's a punitive fear of failure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still don't get the whole point of AR. A book
>>>>>>> is better understood by talking about it, not by
>>>>>>> taking multiple choice tests. Ugh.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
 

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