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    Re: To Sheila
    Carolyn

    I guess you're also not able to understand what my post actually says,
    either.

    I BELIEVE I just said EXACTLY what you just said.

    On 11/01/09, Sheila wrote:
    > Sorry your school is not trained properly on how to use AR and you
    > have not taken the initiative to understand it yourself. You can
    > read novels in class AND take AR tests as I do. Right now my class
    > is reading Number the Stars. You can watch a movie too, but you
    > will more than likely get no more than 40% of the questions right
    > (WHICH RESULTS IN 0 AR POINTS)since the people at AR know that and
    > make the questions about things that WEREN'T in the movie! No need
    > to respond. I am not interested in hearing anymore about this.
    >
    > On 10/31/09,
    >
    >
    > The RIGHT Carolyn wrote:
    >> I don't "HATE" it, I just don't see how it improves reading
    >> comprehension or motivation.
    >>
    >> Ironically, I just received an email from a parent upset with me
    >> over the AR report her child is getting. As a result of her
    >> student not "understanding" he was supposed to do AR this past
    >> quarter, he received a "not meeting goals" on his report card.
    >>
    >> Now, I READILY admit I did NOT tell him he was to be doing AR. I
    >> assumed he already knew what it was. See, that's the problem I am
    >> having. The person who is compiling the data and basically
    >> running the system did not inform me that I was actually "in
    >> charge" of the students reaching their goals. Hence, a new
    >> student to the school who didn't know a darn thing about AR went
    >> the entire quarter clueless about it (as was I)
    >>
    >> That's the reason why I do not like the way this system is set
    >> up. We are reading a novel in class and the students are fully
    >> comprehending this novel. THAT is more accurate of a
    >> comprehension measurement to me, as a teacher, than a software
    >> program with 22 questions in it. I don't understand how a student
    >> who gets an A from me in regards to the standard "demonstrates
    >> literal comprehension" in MY class, can fail that on an AR test.
    >> Does this make sense?
    >>
    >> I also had a student who took NUMEROUS AR tests, and failed MOST
    >> of them. So, she's not comprehending them either. Is it MY fault
    >> she's not comprehending books she's read independently? No, it is
    >> not. Is it my job to analyze the data and "fix" this problem?
    >> Yes, it is. Is that fair? No, it is not.
    >>
    >> I have been given NO guidance, except for my co teacher who went
    >> over the reports with me, on AR this past Friday. I have tried
    >> numerous times to access the information, but cannot even sign on
    >> to the system. Yet, I am being expected to monitor this and fix
    >> issues on books I haven't read myself? THAT is my overall issue I
    >> have with this.
    >>
    >> By the way, the parent told me that her child told her that a lot
    >> of the kids in my school are going to see the movie versions of
    >> the book, then taking AR tests for points. Since I consider this
    >> cheating, I consider this evidence that AR is not an accurate way
    >> to measure reading achievement. I can safely bet that many, many
    >> students across the country are doing that very same thing --
    >> cheating by seeing the movie just for the sake of wracking up
    >> their point totals.
    >>
    >> Just my thoughts.
    >>
    >> On 9/28/09, Deb ms/IA wrote:
    >>> This was addressed to Carolyn it wasn't from Carolyn.
    >>> Carolyn has torn apart AR since her first post. Her school
    >>> is implementing AR incorrectly and Carolyn hates AR with a
    >>> passion and states that quiet often on this board. Instead
    >>> of making changes and using AR properly she just complains.
    >>> Sorry for the confusion on your part. It was meant to
    >>> address Carolyn and the fact I don't get all her whining.
    >>>
    >>> Deb ms/IA
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 9/26/09, I don't get you Carolyn wrote:
    >>>>>> 60 percent on any work isn't passing work in some
    >>>>>> grading scales. It doesn't matter if its a book
    >>>>>> talk on a book or any type of project on a book 60
    >>>>>> percent isn't that great.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Your ignorance/intolerance/anger with AR is
    >>>>>> showing. AR is not all about numbers nor is it
    >>>>>> about punishing kids. Please, you and your school
    >>>>>> need training on how to properly run AR. When you
    >>>>>> get that training, implement that training then
    >>>>>> come back and issue your opinions on AR. Until then
    >>>>>> stop your whining and complaining. Do something
    >>>>>> about the problem!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 9/26/09, Carolyn wrote:
    >>>>>>> I think focusing on points instead of reading
    >>>>>>> enjoyment and comprehension is the wrong way to
    >>>>>>> look at learning. That makes it all about a
    >>>>>>> number to obtain, not the material from the book.
    >>>>>>> Kids at my school get punished for not making
    >>>>>>> their goals. This is not a motivating factor,
    >>>>>>> it's a punitive fear of failure.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I still don't get the whole point of AR. A book
    >>>>>>> is better understood by talking about it, not by
    >>>>>>> taking multiple choice tests. Ugh.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>