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Re: University of Phoenix
Posted by 123 on 12/12/07

    I have a UofP MBA. The degree is garbage. No employer recognizes any education
    from UofP. I was very upset.


    On 9/15/07, Jack wrote:
    > On 6/22/07, love it or hate it wrote:
    >> I have a bachelors degree and 2 masters degrees. I completed my bachelors
    >> degree at UOP and like a lot of people I wanted to have another school on my
    >> resume that may be more recognized. So for my first masters degree I went
    >> to a state university. I was horified at how little I learned and I can
    >> count on 1 hand how many instructors I thought were quality instructors. At
    >> the end of my masters degree I decided to get another masters degree so I
    >> could become a teacher; which college did I choose.....UOP! I learned a lot
    >> more, worked harder, and felt I had a better education at UOP.
    >>
    >> I remember one of my instructors telling our class she was at a party with a
    >> friend (that taught at the state university). She said that she needed to
    >> go home because she had to prepare for her instruction, he said "What? I've
    >> taught the same lesson for the last 20 years, I never have to prepare."
    >> So what kind of education were those students receiving?
    >>
    >> The bottom line is you love UOP or you hate UOP. You have to make your own
    >> decision, that is why UOP is for working adults not kids just out of high
    >> school.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 5/14/07, Pamela Reed wrote:
    >>> That is so true. It is all about the discipline. You either want to do it
    >>> or you do not. My friend teaches for UOP. The students that do the most
    >>> whining are the ones with the most excuses. They want more time to turn
    >> in
    >>> homework because their cat was sick on Sunday. Of course, we all realized
    >>> the assignment was due the previous Tuesday! I find most student do not
    >>> want to read the material! When it comes to the DQ questions, their
    >> answers
    >>> are out in left field. They simply will not follow instructions. Now, I
    >>> have had one questionable teacher but for the most part I use the syllabus
    >>> and follow the instructions. It is as simple as that. I do not make
    >>> excuses when I happen to be late because I try not to be late so I do not
    >>> need any extra help.
    >>>
    > UOP is for working adults who want to learn. I get out of it what I put in to
    > it period. The syllabus, the online resources and instructor are there. It is
    > up to me to learn by researching, asking questions, and reading the vast
    > material that is available to uop students. The team groups are for adult
    > learners who understand that in the real adult work life one has to
    collaborate
    > with others to survive and thrive.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 3/11/07, Sandy Jo Kinman wrote:
    >>>> All universites are going to have their good and bad in all areas. It is
    >>>> part of growing. I graduated with BSIT from the University of Phoenix
    >>>> and I am now attending getting my MIS. There is nothing wrong with the
    >>>> school or its faculty and staff. The problem is with the students. If
    >>>> you can't take the heat, get out. And that is what some students go,
    >>>> they get out. Of course, you are going to still have student loans, that
    >>>> is the nature of the beast. You have to pay back what you borrow, if you
    >>>> do not finish, that is your problem. This type of program is not for the
    >>>> weak. It is going to take a strong student to fullfill the requirements
    >>>> of the programs to obtain the degree. The programs are designed for a
    >>>> win-win situation for the student and for the company that this strong
    >>>> student goes to work for. They are not quitters.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On 11/11/06, A happy student wrote:
    >>>>> I've heard and read enough non-sense already about UOP. I can't take
    >>>>> it anymore. I did go to ripoff.com and read some complaints, and from
    >>>>> what I read it appears to be a bunch of whining from people who are
    >>>>> not prepared to jump in, roll up their sleeves and really hit the
    >>>>> books.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I'm currently an MBA student with only 2 classes left to graduation.
    >>>>> Yes, it is time consuming, but once you get the hang of it, it is
    >>>>> possible to still have a life. Why would you want to go to a school
    >>>>> where you are doing minimal work and getting a degree for only three
    >>>>> hours a week as one angry student wrote? Please enlighten me!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And to all those who have complained about credits not transferring...
    >>>>> Try going to a local school and see if your credits are going to
    >>>>> transfer there if you don't like it. But somehow I don't think that
    >>>>> your local school is going to accept them so easily either.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And to the complainers stating that they didn't know how many classes
    >>>>> they would need until they after got started? Why did you start then?
    >>>>> Would you have done that at a local/ground school?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Yes you work heavily in teams. But that is what real life is about,
    >>>>> working and playing well with others. UOP teaches you just how to do
    >>>>> that. Real life is not sitting in front of an instructor, sneaking in
    >>>>> late and sleeping through a lecture. Real life is about learning from
    >>>>> your peers and the world around you.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I have known quite a few people in real life that have given UOP a
    >>>>> spin and quit to go to some local schools. You know what they tell me?
    >>>>> That it is cheaper and easier. So essentially, you get what you pay
    >>>>> for.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 10/20/06, Michael Allen wrote:
    >>>>>> There seems to be a lot of controversy over the validity of the
    >>>>>> University of Phoneix Online degree programs. I do not understand
    >>>>>> why. For the most part, people are skeptical about an education that
    >>>>>> does not allow you to sit in a classroom and listen to someone
    >>>>>> lecture. All that a lecture does is elaborate on the course work
    >>>>>> that is being taught. Something that most people do not realize is
    >>>>>> that an online degree displays a persons ability to reasearch. Here
    >>>>>> is why. I do not have a teacher to readily refer to for step by step
    >>>>>> assistance. Don't get my wrong, all of my instructors are available
    >>>>>> if needed as they often supply a phone number and email address to
    >>>>>> contact them. My point is that instead of listeining to a Charlie
    >>>>>> Brown type teacher honking away at something that I do not feel
    >>>>>> appealing, I can read the documents for the course, and then
    >>>>>> research topics of interest or topics that I do not understand.
    >>>>>> Rather than hoping that the teacher and I can effectively
    >>>>>> communicate in order to work through the problem I am experienceing,
    >>>>>> I can focus a little research on the topic and come up with the
    >>>>>> answer. Another point that I would like to make is this. I am
    >>>>>> currently pursuing a Business Admin degree and what I am learning
    >>>>>> applies directly to my responsibilities as a manager. I have been
    >>>>>> able to identify some of my managerial weaknesses and have been able
    >>>>>> to make changes that impacts my organization in a positive manner.
    >>>>>> The education is sound, if it was not it would not be nationally
    >>>>>> accredited. We cannot forget about that. There are organizations out
    >>>>>> there that accredit schools so that people will feel confident with
    >>>>>> the education that they are receicing. Go ahead and google it, you
    >>>>>> will find it to be true. We have all heard of Colin Powell right? He
    >>>>>> graduated from some small inner city college in New York, and went
    >>>>>> on to lead a successful military and political career. Why do I
    >>>>>> bring this up? It does not matter quality of education, what matters
    >>>>>> is quality of person. That degree is just a piece of paper that says
    >>>>>> you completed school. It gets your foot in the door because it
    >>>>>> proves that you have done more than the average high school student.
    >>>>>> How you apply your abilites and knowledge is what will make you
    >>>>>> successful, not a 4.0 at Harvard. That jsut says that you know how
    >>>>>> to study and remember things. Application is the key to success. I
    >>>>>> hope this helps with the UOP conversation.
    >>>>>> -Michael Allen
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 7/14/06, Derek wrote:
    >>>>>>> I'm just about to graduate from University of Phoenix with my BSIT
    >>>>>>> (just the capstone class left), and I'm trying to decide what to
    >>>>>>> do about pursuing a master's degree. UoP currently only offers it
    >>>>>>> online, and I don't know what to think about the validity or value
    >>>>>>> of an online degree in comparison to classroom based education.
    >>>>>>> That's how I sumbled onto this thread during a Google search.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I think that Mike is right about getting out of it what you put
    >>>>>>> into it. I also think that basic interest has a lot to do with
    >>>>>>> it. I love technology and I really enjoyed the programming
    >>>>>>> classes, especially Java 1 & 2, and Web Programming 1 & 2.
    >>>>>>> However, those classes were also taught by (in my opinion) the
    >>>>>>> best instructors at that campus, which shows that instructor
    >>>>>>> quality has a lot to do with maintaining the students' interest.
    >>>>>>> Most of the instructors have "real" jobs and are teaching for
    >>>>>>> various personal or monetary reasons on the side. They,
    >>>>>>> therefore, bring their real-world experience to class with them,
    >>>>>>> and that's something you won't get at a typical career-instructor
    >>>>>>> school.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> It also takes student commitment. Without that, it doesn't matter
    >>>>>>> what school you attend -- you probably won't finish, but you'll
    >>>>>>> still owe on the loans. My first classes started out with 30+
    >>>>>>> students. My last class on EBusiness had just 6 people in it, and
    >>>>>>> only 5 finished the class.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Before I started school I wondered why I had to jump through so
    >>>>>>> many hoops to get my "piece of paper." After going through the
    >>>>>>> process, I see that the true value of a degree program is to
    >>>>>>> separate the quitters, slackers, and incompetent people from those
    >>>>>>> who will actually be successful in life, and I think that's the
    >>>>>>> real value of a degree to an employer. It's a baseline
    >>>>>>> reliability and follow-through certification.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 6/13/06, Mike wrote:
    >>>>>>>> You will get out of it what you put into it. I have complaints,
    >>>>>>>> such as some of the duds in my learning teams, but how is that
    >>>>>>>> so different from the real world. If anything, I learned how to
    >>>>>>>> deal with dead-beats in a diplomatic fashion. You will find
    >>>>>>>> people at EVERY school in the country, around the world for that
    >>>>>>>> matter, who are not pleased. My business management degree from
    >>>>>>>> UOP helped me get the job I have now. Most people who won't
    >>>>>>>> accept a UOP degree don't know anything about it, have
    >>>>>>>> preconceived notions about an "on-line" degree, or are
    >>>>>>>> prejudiced against the format because they had to beat it out at
    >>>>>>>> a brick-n-mortar university. Do the math. Did you see Good Will
    >>>>>>>> Hunting? Speaking to a elitest Harvard student, the character,
    >>>>>>>> Will, says "You dropped $150,000 on an education you could have
    >>>>>>>> gotten with $1.50 in late charges at the public library." This
    >>>>>>>> is probably not far from the truth.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Ever heard the phrase: "Do your own think!" Don't be swayed by
    >>>>>>>> public opinion. If it feels right to you, then move forward. Ask
    >>>>>>>> the nay-sayers to submit proof for the feelings, and you will
    >>>>>>>> find that they are unsubstantiated.
    >>>>>>>> On 4/26/06, Frank wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> On 7/07/05, Florita King wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> I was warned about Phoenix by several people. Go to
    >>>>>>>>>> ripoffreport.com and you'll see a mass of complaints about
    >>>>>>>>>> the school.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Good luck!.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Florita
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> On 6/16/05, John wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> I am currentlty attending the University of Phoenix's
    >>>>>>>>>>> program for IT. I have not been 100&37; satisfied. I have
    >>>>>>>>>>> been doing some pretty heavy research trying to find some
    >>>>>>>>>>> alternate opinions on the quality of education, and the
    >>>>>>>>>>> recognition of degrees provided by other educational
    >>>>>>>>>>> bodies and employers, by the UoP. Some factors I have in
    >>>>>>>>>>> my favor, is although I am employed full time, I am still
    >>>>>>>>>>> in my 20's (for a bit longer :) , I have no family, and no
    >>>>>>>>>>> children. I feel that I may be selling myself short if I
    >>>>>>>>>>> continue on my current path. While I really want my
    >>>>>>>>>>> degree, I want to be proud of the name, and I want to work
    >>>>>>>>>>> my tail off getting it. Your opinions and advice are
    >>>>>>>>>>> greatly appreciated!
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>

     
     

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