Re: University of Phoenix

On 7/14/06, Derek wrote:
> I'm just about to graduate from University of Phoenix with my BSIT
> (just the capstone class left), and I'm trying to decide what to
> do about pursuing a master's degree. UoP currently only offers it
> online, and I don't know what to think about the validity or value
> of an online degree in comparison to classroom based education.
> That's how I sumbled onto this thread during a Google search.
>
> I think that Mike is right about getting out of it what you put
> into it. I also think that basic interest has a lot to do with
> it. I love technology and I really enjoyed the programming
> classes, especially Java 1 & 2, and Web Programming 1 & 2.
> However, those classes were also taught by (in my opinion) the
> best instructors at that campus, which shows that instructor
> quality has a lot to do with maintaining the students' interest.
> Most of the instructors have "real" jobs and are teaching for
> various personal or monetary reasons on the side. They,
> therefore, bring their real-world experience to class with them,
> and that's something you won't get at a typical career-instructor
> school.
>
> It also takes student commitment. Without that, it doesn't matter
> what school you attend -- you probably won't finish, but you'll
> still owe on the loans. My first classes started out with 30+
> students. My last class on EBusiness had just 6 people in it, and
> only 5 finished the class.
>
> Before I started school I wondered why I had to jump through so
> many hoops to get my "piece of paper." After going through the
> process, I see that the true value of a degree program is to
> separate the quitters, slackers, and incompetent people from those
> who will actually be successful in life, and I think that's the
> real value of a degree to an employer. It's a baseline
> reliability and follow-through certification.
>
>
>
> On 6/13/06, Mike wrote:
>> You will get out of it what you put into it. I have complaints,
>> such as some of the duds in my learning teams, but how is that
>> so different from the real world. If anything, I learned how to
>> deal with dead-beats in a diplomatic fashion. You will find
>> people at EVERY school in the country, around the world for that
>> matter, who are not pleased. My business management degree from
>> UOP helped me get the job I have now. Most people who won't
>> accept a UOP degree don't know anything about it, have
>> preconceived notions about an "on-line" degree, or are
>> prejudiced against the format because they had to beat it out at
>> a brick-n-mortar university. Do the math. Did you see Good Will
>> Hunting? Speaking to a elitest Harvard student, the character,
>> Will, says "You dropped $150,000 on an education you could have
>> gotten with $1.50 in late charges at the public library." This
>> is probably not far from the truth.
>>
>> Ever heard the phrase: "Do your own think!" Don't be swayed by
>> public opinion. If it feels right to you, then move forward. Ask
>> the nay-sayers to submit proof for the feelings, and you will
>> find that they are unsubstantiated.
>> On 4/26/06, Frank wrote:
>>> On 7/07/05, Florita King wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I was warned about Phoenix by several people. Go to
>>>> ripoffreport.com and you'll see a mass of complaints about
>>>> the school.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!.
>>>>
>>>> Florita
>>>>
>>>> On 6/16/05, John wrote:
>>>>> I am currentlty attending the University of Phoenix's
>>>>> program for IT. I have not been 100&37; satisfied. I have
>>>>> been doing some pretty heavy research trying to find some
>>>>> alternate opinions on the quality of education, and the
>>>>> recognition of degrees provided by other educational
>>>>> bodies and employers, by the UoP. Some factors I have in
>>>>> my favor, is although I am employed full time, I am still
>>>>> in my 20's (for a bit longer :) , I have no family, and no
>>>>> children. I feel that I may be selling myself short if I
>>>>> continue on my current path. While I really want my
>>>>> degree, I want to be proud of the name, and I want to work
>>>>> my tail off getting it. Your opinions and advice are
>>>>> greatly appreciated!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>