While I like UOP I must say that most of you can spell worth
a dick nor write. One of you has like three degrees and made
so many grammar errors I dont know how you passed.

On 7/31/07, dks wrote:
> On 6/22/07, love it or hate it wrote:
>> I have a bachelors degree and 2 masters degrees. I
>> completed my bachelors degree at UOP and like a lot
>> of people I wanted to have another school on my
>> resume that may be more recognized. So for my first
>> masters degree I went to a state university. I was
>> horified at how little I learned and I can count on 1
>> hand how many instructors I thought were quality
>> instructors. At the end of my masters degree I
>> decided to get another masters degree so I could
>> become a teacher; which college did I choose.....UOP!
>> I learned a lot more, worked harder, and felt I had a
>> better education at UOP.
>>
>> I remember one of my instructors telling our class
>> she was at a party with a friend (that taught at the
>> state university). She said that she needed to go
>> home because she had to prepare for her instruction,
>> he said "What? I've taught the same lesson for
>> the last 20 years, I never have to prepare." So
>> what kind of education were those students receiving?
>>
>> The bottom line is you love UOP or you hate UOP. You
>> have to make your own decision, that is why UOP is
>> for working adults not kids just out of high school.
>
> I'm considering getting my MIS at UOP. I've read all
> the good and the bad, but the bottom line is, where is
> everyone working once they've finished the program????
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/14/07, Pamela Reed wrote:
>>> That is so true. It is all about the discipline.
>>> You either want to do it or you do not. My friend
>>> teaches for UOP. The students that do the most
>>> whining are the ones with the most excuses. They
>>> want more time to turn
>> in
>>> homework because their cat was sick on Sunday. Of
>>> course, we all realized the assignment was due the
>>> previous Tuesday! I find most student do not want
>>> to read the material! When it comes to the DQ
>>> questions, their
>> answers
>>> are out in left field. They simply will not follow
>>> instructions. Now, I have had one questionable
>>> teacher but for the most part I use the syllabus
>>> and follow the instructions. It is as simple as
>>> that. I do not make excuses when I happen to be
>>> late because I try not to be late so I do not need
>>> any extra help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/11/07, Sandy Jo Kinman wrote:
>>>> All universites are going to have their good and
>>>> bad in all areas. It is part of growing. I
>>>> graduated with BSIT from the University of
>>>> Phoenix and I am now attending getting my MIS.
>>>> There is nothing wrong with the school or its
>>>> faculty and staff. The problem is with the
>>>> students. If you can't take the heat, get out.
>>>> And that is what some students go, they get out.
>>>> Of course, you are going to still have student
>>>> loans, that is the nature of the beast. You have
>>>> to pay back what you borrow, if you do not
>>>> finish, that is your problem. This type of
>>>> program is not for the weak. It is going to take
>>>> a strong student to fullfill the requirements of
>>>> the programs to obtain the degree. The programs
>>>> are designed for a win-win situation for the
>>>> student and for the company that this strong
>>>> student goes to work for. They are not quitters.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/11/06, A happy student wrote:
>>>>> I've heard and read enough non-sense already
>>>>> about UOP. I can't take it anymore. I did go to
>>>>> ripoff.com and read some complaints, and from
>>>>> what I read it appears to be a bunch of whining
>>>>> from people who are not prepared to jump in,
>>>>> roll up their sleeves and really hit the books.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm currently an MBA student with only 2
>>>>> classes left to graduation. Yes, it is time
>>>>> consuming, but once you get the hang of it, it
>>>>> is possible to still have a life. Why would you
>>>>> want to go to a school where you are doing
>>>>> minimal work and getting a degree for only
>>>>> three hours a week as one angry student wrote?
>>>>> Please enlighten me!
>>>>>
>>>>> And to all those who have complained about
>>>>> credits not transferring... Try going to a
>>>>> local school and see if your credits are going
>>>>> to transfer there if you don't like it. But
>>>>> somehow I don't think that your local school is
>>>>> going to accept them so easily either.
>>>>>
>>>>> And to the complainers stating that they didn't
>>>>> know how many classes they would need until
>>>>> they after got started? Why did you start then?
>>>>> Would you have done that at a local/ground
>>>>> school?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes you work heavily in teams. But that is what
>>>>> real life is about, working and playing well
>>>>> with others. UOP teaches you just how to do
>>>>> that. Real life is not sitting in front of an
>>>>> instructor, sneaking in late and sleeping
>>>>> through a lecture. Real life is about learning
>>>>> from your peers and the world around you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have known quite a few people in real life
>>>>> that have given UOP a spin and quit to go to
>>>>> some local schools. You know what they tell me?
>>>>> That it is cheaper and easier. So essentially,
>>>>> you get what you pay for.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/20/06, Michael Allen wrote:
>>>>>> There seems to be a lot of controversy over
>>>>>> the validity of the University of Phoneix
>>>>>> Online degree programs. I do not understand
>>>>>> why. For the most part, people are skeptical
>>>>>> about an education that does not allow you to
>>>>>> sit in a classroom and listen to someone
>>>>>> lecture. All that a lecture does is elaborate
>>>>>> on the course work that is being taught.
>>>>>> Something that most people do not realize is
>>>>>> that an online degree displays a persons
>>>>>> ability to reasearch. Here is why. I do not
>>>>>> have a teacher to readily refer to for step
>>>>>> by step assistance. Don't get my wrong, all
>>>>>> of my instructors are available if needed as
>>>>>> they often supply a phone number and email
>>>>>> address to contact them. My point is that
>>>>>> instead of listeining to a Charlie Brown type
>>>>>> teacher honking away at something that I do
>>>>>> not feel appealing, I can read the documents
>>>>>> for the course, and then research topics of
>>>>>> interest or topics that I do not understand.
>>>>>> Rather than hoping that the teacher and I can
>>>>>> effectively communicate in order to work
>>>>>> through the problem I am experienceing, I can
>>>>>> focus a little research on the topic and come
>>>>>> up with the answer. Another point that I
>>>>>> would like to make is this. I am currently
>>>>>> pursuing a Business Admin degree and what I
>>>>>> am learning applies directly to my
>>>>>> responsibilities as a manager. I have been
>>>>>> able to identify some of my managerial
>>>>>> weaknesses and have been able to make changes
>>>>>> that impacts my organization in a positive
>>>>>> manner. The education is sound, if it was not
>>>>>> it would not be nationally accredited. We
>>>>>> cannot forget about that. There are
>>>>>> organizations out there that accredit schools
>>>>>> so that people will feel confident with the
>>>>>> education that they are receicing. Go ahead
>>>>>> and google it, you will find it to be true.
>>>>>> We have all heard of Colin Powell right? He
>>>>>> graduated from some small inner city college
>>>>>> in New York, and went on to lead a successful
>>>>>> military and political career. Why do I bring
>>>>>> this up? It does not matter quality of
>>>>>> education, what matters is quality of person.
>>>>>> That degree is just a piece of paper that
>>>>>> says you completed school. It gets your foot
>>>>>> in the door because it proves that you have
>>>>>> done more than the average high school
>>>>>> student. How you apply your abilites and
>>>>>> knowledge is what will make you successful,
>>>>>> not a 4.0 at Harvard. That jsut says that you
>>>>>> know how to study and remember things.
>>>>>> Application is the key to success. I hope
>>>>>> this helps with the UOP conversation.
>>>>>> -Michael Allen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/14/06, Derek wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm just about to graduate from University
>>>>>>> of Phoenix with my BSIT (just the capstone
>>>>>>> class left), and I'm trying to decide what
>>>>>>> to do about pursuing a master's degree. UoP
>>>>>>> currently only offers it online, and I
>>>>>>> don't know what to think about the validity
>>>>>>> or value of an online degree in comparison
>>>>>>> to classroom based education. That's how I
>>>>>>> sumbled onto this thread during a Google
>>>>>>> search.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that Mike is right about getting
>>>>>>> out of it what you put into it. I also
>>>>>>> think that basic interest has a lot to do
>>>>>>> with it. I love technology and I really
>>>>>>> enjoyed the programming classes, especially
>>>>>>> Java 1 & 2, and Web Programming 1 & 2.
>>>>>>> However, those classes were also taught by
>>>>>>> (in my opinion) the best instructors at
>>>>>>> that campus, which shows that instructor
>>>>>>> quality has a lot to do with maintaining
>>>>>>> the students' interest. Most of the
>>>>>>> instructors have "real" jobs and
>>>>>>> are teaching for various personal or
>>>>>>> monetary reasons on the side. They,
>>>>>>> therefore, bring their real-world
>>>>>>> experience to class with them, and that's
>>>>>>> something you won't get at a typical
>>>>>>> career-instructor school.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It also takes student commitment. Without
>>>>>>> that, it doesn't matter what school you
>>>>>>> attend -- you probably won't finish, but
>>>>>>> you'll still owe on the loans. My first
>>>>>>> classes started out with 30+ students. My
>>>>>>> last class on EBusiness had just 6 people
>>>>>>> in it, and only 5 finished the class.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before I started school I wondered why I
>>>>>>> had to jump through so many hoops to get my
>>>>>>> "piece of paper." After going
>>>>>>> through the process, I see that the true
>>>>>>> value of a degree program is to separate
>>>>>>> the quitters, slackers, and incompetent
>>>>>>> people from those who will actually be
>>>>>>> successful in life, and I think that's the
>>>>>>> real value of a degree to an employer. It's
>>>>>>> a baseline reliability and follow-through
>>>>>>> certification.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/13/06, Mike wrote:
>>>>>>>> You will get out of it what you put into
>>>>>>>> it. I have complaints, such as some of
>>>>>>>> the duds in my learning teams, but how is
>>>>>>>> that so different from the real world. If
>>>>>>>> anything, I learned how to deal with
>>>>>>>> dead-beats in a diplomatic fashion. You
>>>>>>>> will find people at EVERY school in the
>>>>>>>> country, around the world for that
>>>>>>>> matter, who are not pleased. My business
>>>>>>>> management degree from UOP helped me get
>>>>>>>> the job I have now. Most people who won't
>>>>>>>> accept a UOP degree don't know anything
>>>>>>>> about it, have preconceived notions about
>>>>>>>> an "on-line" degree, or are
>>>>>>>> prejudiced against the format because
>>>>>>>> they had to beat it out at a
>>>>>>>> brick-n-mortar university. Do the math.
>>>>>>>> Did you see Good Will Hunting? Speaking
>>>>>>>> to a elitest Harvard student, the
>>>>>>>> character, Will, says "You dropped
>>>>>>>> $150,000 on an education you could have
>>>>>>>> gotten with $1.50 in late charges at the
>>>>>>>> public library." This is probably
>>>>>>>> not far from the truth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ever heard the phrase: "Do your own
>>>>>>>> think!" Don't be swayed by public
>>>>>>>> opinion. If it feels right to you, then
>>>>>>>> move forward. Ask the nay-sayers to
>>>>>>>> submit proof for the feelings, and you
>>>>>>>> will find that they are unsubstantiated.
>>>>>>>> On 4/26/06, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/07/05, Florita King wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I was warned about Phoenix by several
>>>>>>>>>> people. Go to ripoffreport.com and
>>>>>>>>>> you'll see a mass of complaints about
>>>>>>>>>> the school.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good luck!.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Florita
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/16/05, John wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I am currentlty attending the
>>>>>>>>>>> University of Phoenix's program for
>>>>>>>>>>> IT. I have not been 100% satisfied.
>>>>>>>>>>> I have been doing some pretty heavy
>>>>>>>>>>> research trying to find some
>>>>>>>>>>> alternate opinions on the quality
>>>>>>>>>>> of education, and the recognition
>>>>>>>>>>> of degrees provided by other
>>>>>>>>>>> educational bodies and employers,
>>>>>>>>>>> by the UoP. Some factors I have in
>>>>>>>>>>> my favor, is although I am employed
>>>>>>>>>>> full time, I am still in my 20's
>>>>>>>>>>> (for a bit longer :) , I have no
>>>>>>>>>>> family, and no children. I feel
>>>>>>>>>>> that I may be selling myself short
>>>>>>>>>>> if I continue on my current path.
>>>>>>>>>>> While I really want my degree, I
>>>>>>>>>>> want to be proud of the name, and I
>>>>>>>>>>> want to work my tail off getting
>>>>>>>>>>> it. Your opinions and advice are
>>>>>>>>>>> greatly appreciated!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

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