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Re: University of Phoenix
Posted by dks on 7/31/07

    On 6/22/07, love it or hate it wrote:
    > I have a bachelors degree and 2 masters degrees. I completed my bachelors
    > degree at UOP and like a lot of people I wanted to have another school on my
    > resume that may be more recognized. So for my first masters degree I went
    > to a state university. I was horified at how little I learned and I can
    > count on 1 hand how many instructors I thought were quality instructors. At
    > the end of my masters degree I decided to get another masters degree so I
    > could become a teacher; which college did I choose.....UOP! I learned a lot
    > more, worked harder, and felt I had a better education at UOP.
    >
    > I remember one of my instructors telling our class she was at a party with a
    > friend (that taught at the state university). She said that she needed to
    > go home because she had to prepare for her instruction, he said "What? I've
    > taught the same lesson for the last 20 years, I never have to prepare."
    > So what kind of education were those students receiving?
    >
    > The bottom line is you love UOP or you hate UOP. You have to make your own
    > decision, that is why UOP is for working adults not kids just out of high
    > school.

    I'm considering getting my MIS at UOP. I've read all the good and the bad, but
    the bottom line is, where is everyone working once they've finished the program????


    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On 5/14/07, Pamela Reed wrote:
    >> That is so true. It is all about the discipline. You either want to do it
    >> or you do not. My friend teaches for UOP. The students that do the most
    >> whining are the ones with the most excuses. They want more time to turn
    > in
    >> homework because their cat was sick on Sunday. Of course, we all realized
    >> the assignment was due the previous Tuesday! I find most student do not
    >> want to read the material! When it comes to the DQ questions, their
    > answers
    >> are out in left field. They simply will not follow instructions. Now, I
    >> have had one questionable teacher but for the most part I use the syllabus
    >> and follow the instructions. It is as simple as that. I do not make
    >> excuses when I happen to be late because I try not to be late so I do not
    >> need any extra help.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 3/11/07, Sandy Jo Kinman wrote:
    >>> All universites are going to have their good and bad in all areas. It is
    >>> part of growing. I graduated with BSIT from the University of Phoenix
    >>> and I am now attending getting my MIS. There is nothing wrong with the
    >>> school or its faculty and staff. The problem is with the students. If
    >>> you can't take the heat, get out. And that is what some students go,
    >>> they get out. Of course, you are going to still have student loans, that
    >>> is the nature of the beast. You have to pay back what you borrow, if you
    >>> do not finish, that is your problem. This type of program is not for the
    >>> weak. It is going to take a strong student to fullfill the requirements
    >>> of the programs to obtain the degree. The programs are designed for a
    >>> win-win situation for the student and for the company that this strong
    >>> student goes to work for. They are not quitters.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 11/11/06, A happy student wrote:
    >>>> I've heard and read enough non-sense already about UOP. I can't take
    >>>> it anymore. I did go to ripoff.com and read some complaints, and from
    >>>> what I read it appears to be a bunch of whining from people who are
    >>>> not prepared to jump in, roll up their sleeves and really hit the
    >>>> books.
    >>>>
    >>>> I'm currently an MBA student with only 2 classes left to graduation.
    >>>> Yes, it is time consuming, but once you get the hang of it, it is
    >>>> possible to still have a life. Why would you want to go to a school
    >>>> where you are doing minimal work and getting a degree for only three
    >>>> hours a week as one angry student wrote? Please enlighten me!
    >>>>
    >>>> And to all those who have complained about credits not transferring...
    >>>> Try going to a local school and see if your credits are going to
    >>>> transfer there if you don't like it. But somehow I don't think that
    >>>> your local school is going to accept them so easily either.
    >>>>
    >>>> And to the complainers stating that they didn't know how many classes
    >>>> they would need until they after got started? Why did you start then?
    >>>> Would you have done that at a local/ground school?
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes you work heavily in teams. But that is what real life is about,
    >>>> working and playing well with others. UOP teaches you just how to do
    >>>> that. Real life is not sitting in front of an instructor, sneaking in
    >>>> late and sleeping through a lecture. Real life is about learning from
    >>>> your peers and the world around you.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have known quite a few people in real life that have given UOP a
    >>>> spin and quit to go to some local schools. You know what they tell me?
    >>>> That it is cheaper and easier. So essentially, you get what you pay
    >>>> for.
    >>>>
    >>>> On 10/20/06, Michael Allen wrote:
    >>>>> There seems to be a lot of controversy over the validity of the
    >>>>> University of Phoneix Online degree programs. I do not understand
    >>>>> why. For the most part, people are skeptical about an education that
    >>>>> does not allow you to sit in a classroom and listen to someone
    >>>>> lecture. All that a lecture does is elaborate on the course work
    >>>>> that is being taught. Something that most people do not realize is
    >>>>> that an online degree displays a persons ability to reasearch. Here
    >>>>> is why. I do not have a teacher to readily refer to for step by step
    >>>>> assistance. Don't get my wrong, all of my instructors are available
    >>>>> if needed as they often supply a phone number and email address to
    >>>>> contact them. My point is that instead of listeining to a Charlie
    >>>>> Brown type teacher honking away at something that I do not feel
    >>>>> appealing, I can read the documents for the course, and then
    >>>>> research topics of interest or topics that I do not understand.
    >>>>> Rather than hoping that the teacher and I can effectively
    >>>>> communicate in order to work through the problem I am experienceing,
    >>>>> I can focus a little research on the topic and come up with the
    >>>>> answer. Another point that I would like to make is this. I am
    >>>>> currently pursuing a Business Admin degree and what I am learning
    >>>>> applies directly to my responsibilities as a manager. I have been
    >>>>> able to identify some of my managerial weaknesses and have been able
    >>>>> to make changes that impacts my organization in a positive manner.
    >>>>> The education is sound, if it was not it would not be nationally
    >>>>> accredited. We cannot forget about that. There are organizations out
    >>>>> there that accredit schools so that people will feel confident with
    >>>>> the education that they are receicing. Go ahead and google it, you
    >>>>> will find it to be true. We have all heard of Colin Powell right? He
    >>>>> graduated from some small inner city college in New York, and went
    >>>>> on to lead a successful military and political career. Why do I
    >>>>> bring this up? It does not matter quality of education, what matters
    >>>>> is quality of person. That degree is just a piece of paper that says
    >>>>> you completed school. It gets your foot in the door because it
    >>>>> proves that you have done more than the average high school student.
    >>>>> How you apply your abilites and knowledge is what will make you
    >>>>> successful, not a 4.0 at Harvard. That jsut says that you know how
    >>>>> to study and remember things. Application is the key to success. I
    >>>>> hope this helps with the UOP conversation.
    >>>>> -Michael Allen
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 7/14/06, Derek wrote:
    >>>>>> I'm just about to graduate from University of Phoenix with my BSIT
    >>>>>> (just the capstone class left), and I'm trying to decide what to
    >>>>>> do about pursuing a master's degree. UoP currently only offers it
    >>>>>> online, and I don't know what to think about the validity or value
    >>>>>> of an online degree in comparison to classroom based education.
    >>>>>> That's how I sumbled onto this thread during a Google search.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I think that Mike is right about getting out of it what you put
    >>>>>> into it. I also think that basic interest has a lot to do with
    >>>>>> it. I love technology and I really enjoyed the programming
    >>>>>> classes, especially Java 1 & 2, and Web Programming 1 & 2.
    >>>>>> However, those classes were also taught by (in my opinion) the
    >>>>>> best instructors at that campus, which shows that instructor
    >>>>>> quality has a lot to do with maintaining the students' interest.
    >>>>>> Most of the instructors have "real" jobs and are teaching for
    >>>>>> various personal or monetary reasons on the side. They,
    >>>>>> therefore, bring their real-world experience to class with them,
    >>>>>> and that's something you won't get at a typical career-instructor
    >>>>>> school.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> It also takes student commitment. Without that, it doesn't matter
    >>>>>> what school you attend -- you probably won't finish, but you'll
    >>>>>> still owe on the loans. My first classes started out with 30+
    >>>>>> students. My last class on EBusiness had just 6 people in it, and
    >>>>>> only 5 finished the class.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Before I started school I wondered why I had to jump through so
    >>>>>> many hoops to get my "piece of paper." After going through the
    >>>>>> process, I see that the true value of a degree program is to
    >>>>>> separate the quitters, slackers, and incompetent people from those
    >>>>>> who will actually be successful in life, and I think that's the
    >>>>>> real value of a degree to an employer. It's a baseline
    >>>>>> reliability and follow-through certification.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 6/13/06, Mike wrote:
    >>>>>>> You will get out of it what you put into it. I have complaints,
    >>>>>>> such as some of the duds in my learning teams, but how is that
    >>>>>>> so different from the real world. If anything, I learned how to
    >>>>>>> deal with dead-beats in a diplomatic fashion. You will find
    >>>>>>> people at EVERY school in the country, around the world for that
    >>>>>>> matter, who are not pleased. My business management degree from
    >>>>>>> UOP helped me get the job I have now. Most people who won't
    >>>>>>> accept a UOP degree don't know anything about it, have
    >>>>>>> preconceived notions about an "on-line" degree, or are
    >>>>>>> prejudiced against the format because they had to beat it out at
    >>>>>>> a brick-n-mortar university. Do the math. Did you see Good Will
    >>>>>>> Hunting? Speaking to a elitest Harvard student, the character,
    >>>>>>> Will, says "You dropped $150,000 on an education you could have
    >>>>>>> gotten with $1.50 in late charges at the public library." This
    >>>>>>> is probably not far from the truth.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Ever heard the phrase: "Do your own think!" Don't be swayed by
    >>>>>>> public opinion. If it feels right to you, then move forward. Ask
    >>>>>>> the nay-sayers to submit proof for the feelings, and you will
    >>>>>>> find that they are unsubstantiated.
    >>>>>>> On 4/26/06, Frank wrote:
    >>>>>>>> On 7/07/05, Florita King wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> Hi,
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> I was warned about Phoenix by several people. Go to
    >>>>>>>>> ripoffreport.com and you'll see a mass of complaints about
    >>>>>>>>> the school.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Good luck!.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Florita
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> On 6/16/05, John wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> I am currentlty attending the University of Phoenix's
    >>>>>>>>>> program for IT. I have not been 100&37; satisfied. I have
    >>>>>>>>>> been doing some pretty heavy research trying to find some
    >>>>>>>>>> alternate opinions on the quality of education, and the
    >>>>>>>>>> recognition of degrees provided by other educational
    >>>>>>>>>> bodies and employers, by the UoP. Some factors I have in
    >>>>>>>>>> my favor, is although I am employed full time, I am still
    >>>>>>>>>> in my 20's (for a bit longer :) , I have no family, and no
    >>>>>>>>>> children. I feel that I may be selling myself short if I
    >>>>>>>>>> continue on my current path. While I really want my
    >>>>>>>>>> degree, I want to be proud of the name, and I want to work
    >>>>>>>>>> my tail off getting it. Your opinions and advice are
    >>>>>>>>>> greatly appreciated!
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>

     
     

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