Re: Survey for Adult Educators and GED Instructors
Posted by Graduate Student on 9/03/06
On 8/23/06, Dana wrote: > I have to disagree with a lot of what was written in this > comment. My first concern is the presumption that University of > Phoenix (UOP) "can produce a degree faster then other schools". > It is my understanding that four years is about right for a > bachelor’s degree. Students who attend UOP for their bachelor's > only spend two years in the program because they are expected to > already have their first two years completed when enrolling. And > there is MORE time spent in classrooms and internships then the > typical private school. (UOP students attend all year, with no > breaks, and most private schools I have examined have no > internship requirements). And a semester hour is a semester > hour; UOP has to meet the same requirements for accreditation > that all other schools must meet. This leads me to my second > concern, that an education from UOP is inherently somehow less > then one you would receive at another school. In any college > there will be several examples of students who just don't "get > it". If there are students teaching themselves statistics from a > book, then obviously there is a problem with the instructor. > (And I think you will find your fair share of bad instructors at > any institution.) In such a case the onus is on the students to > either seek further instruction from their teacher, or else file > a complaint. I transferred from a traditional school to UOP, and > in many ways have found the education experience much more > intense. My work is held to a higher standard because I am being > taught by the same people I hope to work with when I graduate. > The learning team model is annoying, because I hate working with > groups. The intention is not for the students to teach each > other, but it does happen. Even though I hate it, I do see the > benefit: In the future, I will have to work professionally in > groups, and in the real world I will work with these people who > do not "get it". UOP has given me the opportunity to go back to > school and get a quality education and still be there for my > family and hold a decent job. This said, when I apply for > graduate programs, UOP will not be receiving my application. Too > many people think UOP is a lesser school! > > > On 6/17/05, Mr. H wrote: >> On 6/16/05, John wrote: >>> I am currentlty attending the University of Phoenix's >>> program for IT. I have not been 100&37; satisfied. I have >>> been doing some pretty heavy research trying to find some >>> alternate opinions on the quality of education, and the >>> recognition of degrees provided by other educational >>> bodies and employers, by the UoP. Some factors I have in >>> my favor, is although I am employed full time, I am still >>> in my 20's (for a bit longer :) , I have no family, and no >>> children. I feel that I may be selling myself short if I >>> continue on my current path. While I really want my >>> degree, I want to be proud of the name, and I want to work >>> my tail off getting it. Your opinions and advice are >>> greatly appreciated! >> >> John - A lot has been said about UOP on these forums. My take >> is this: UOP is regionally accredited and many students get >> what they want educationally and professionally. However, if >> you want broader acceptance by the academic community and all >> employers, then UOP is not your first school of choice. >> >> From what I can deduce, the main reason UOproduce >> degrees faster than other schools is that they require less >> total hours of work per course than traditional >> quarter/semester schools. >> >> Also, UOP uses a lot of collaborative learning...students >> learning from fellow students. Some people do not find that >> method appealing if it is used exclusively. (I ran into two >> UOP students trying to teach themselves statistics out of a >> book...they were trying to cover the whole book on their own). >> >> However, for some adults, UOP is the only way they can get an >> accredited degree and getting it helps their career. >> >> Good luck!
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