Re: Elementary Ed Major teaching Art
Posted by PA Teacher on 5/07/08
Yes, I reward those that are following the rules. This is a difficult year for me. I am the third teacher they
have had. I don't know what happen to the original art teacher.
The second teacher was only a substitute working on his master's
degree. We attended the same university. He quit to concentrate
on his final semester. Then I come in February. The principal
told me to just keep them in the classroom. Well I did that. But
those kids have all but wrecked that room. You have to have eyes
behind your head to see this rascals do anything. The room is
awkwardly shaped, it a rectangle shape, long and narrow. I had
to put the tables up against the wall so that they block the
doors so they won't sneak out early. Anyway, there are only 6
more weeks to go. I'm doing this all so I can get a regular class next year. Oh
the things we have to do to get what we want to do.
On 5/07/08, NC Art Teacher wrote:
> I agree that if students cannot choose to use materials
> properly, they'll lose them. I tell them that I can teach
them
> what they need to know with just books and writing assignments
> if they can't handle using materials properly/safely. So far,
> just mentioning it works. I've given individual students
> reading/writing assignments to earn my trust back, but have
> never had to do this with an entire class. But I have books &
> will do it if I have to! (Though I'd hate it too, but would
> hate it worse to have them abuse materials.)
>
> I don't tolerate throwing of any kind in the art room - and
> establish that expectation with students from day one. It is
> not a safe classroom if anything is being thrown. This is
> probably the ONE thing I am MOST picky about, because I know
> the potential. (One day crayons, the next day a pencil in the
> eye..)
>
> I handle it in class before contacting an administrator, but I
> don't hesitate to send a student to the office if they are
> making my room an unsafe environment! In grades K-5, if they
> throw something & I see it, they are immediately in a no-art
> zone (either put their head down at their desk after I take
all
> supplies away, or if I have room I'll move to sit alone
without
> materials. Even if it's a minor throw. I also send a note
> home to parents (using a simple form). On the form, there's
> space for the student to sign, homeroom teacher to sign, and
> parent to sign. I keep a small portion so I can keep up with
> it. (Homeroom teachers appreciate being informed). If the
> behavior continues, I ask an administrator or the homeroom
> teacher if they will support me by keeping the student out of
> art until they're ready to make different choices. This has
> worked well in all my schools.
>
> If something is thrown & I don't see who did it and the person
> fesses up, I acknowledge them for being honest, but still send
> a note home & let them know that the whole class won't suffer
> for it. I do from time to time find broken pencils at the end
> of a day or week. But it's so few that I haven't had to make
> it an issue (but will if I need to).
>
> Since you don't know for sure your culprits right now, maybe
> you can set down some ground rules & ask kids to help the
whole
> class earn privileges rather than lose them by helping you
> isolate the few who are doing it. This has worked for me
too.
> (We don't just want a bunch of tattle-tales, but fairness so
> that the class can have a chance to earn privileges.
Hopefully
> you'll find out early who are the few that will test you & be
> consistent in doing what you said you'd do. I would think
> they'll catch on pretty fast that it's LAME to sit & do
nothing
> so they'll make better choices.
>
> Best to you. (sorry so wordy)
>
>
>
>
> On 5/07/08, gwynnetx wrote:
>> do you know which kids are actually breaking your materials?
> it can't be all of
>> them, and i always hate punishing the whole class for
> something that certain
>> students are doing. if they're breaking materials, they
> should not get to use
>> them. period. and once i could prove little johnny was one
> of the culprits, i
>> would be calling little johnny's mother pronto.
>>
>> you could put crayons/colored pencils in numbered baggies or
> some other kind
>> of container and have the kids check out the baggies from
> your desk (or
>> wherever). have a list of the baggies showing the number and
> what's in the
>> bag. then check them at the end of class, before the kids
> leave, to see if all of
>> the crayons/colored pencils made it back in one piece. i
> would also talk to the
>> classes beforehand so that they know what's going on, that
> you will be able to
>> identify the culprits, and that there will be consequences.
>>
>> kids will usually be much more careful if they know that they
> will be held
>> responsible for turning in exactly what they checked out.
> i.e. you will know they
>> are the ones breaking things. if a kid is still
> not "encouraged" to be careful, then
>> i would be calling home and that kid simply wouldn't get to
> do art. and he or
>> she just might "pay" back the cost of the items by cleaning
> the art room during
>> his or her recess time.
>>
>> do you have class rules posted somewhere? one of mine
> is "respect the
>> classroom materials." if you don't follow the rules, you
> don't get to use them.
>> and it's also there in black and white, we go over them the
> first day, i talk about
>> what that looks like, etc. students can't say they didn't
> know!
>>
>> and as for those forms, i would go down to whoever's office
> and stand there
>> until he handed me the forms. don't wait on him; obviously,
> he's not going to
>> do it.
>>
>> On 5/06/08, PA Teacher wrote:
>>> I am so happy that I am not alone. However, I have even
>>> more of a problem. My students, 4-8 do not know how to
>>> respect supplies. They throw crayons at each other. I
>>> replaced the crayons with coloring pencils. Some of the
>>> students began breaking them and throwing them at each
>>> other. I have had it with those kids. When the pencils are
>>> gone and the paper is gone, that's it. I will not replace
>>> anymore supplies with my money. BTW this is not public
>>> school, it's a charter school. Whenever I tell their
>>> classroom teacher about their behavior, they tell me I
>>> have to write it. I tell the disciplinarian and he said he
>>> will give me the forms I have to fill out and never gives
>>> them to me.
>>> I am suppose to motivate these children, but how when I am
>>> NOT an art teacher. I have little to no trouble with Pre K
>>> to grade 3, but 4 to 8 is a big headache. I am counting
>>> the days until June 20.
>>
Posts on this thread, including this one
- Elementary Ed Major teaching Art, 5/06/08, by PA Teacher.
- Re: Elementary Ed Major teaching Art, 5/07/08, by gwynnetx.
- Re: Elementary Ed Major teaching Art, 5/07/08, by ImajinPs.
- Re: Elementary Ed Major teaching Art, 5/07/08, by NC Art Teacher.
- Re: Elementary Ed Major teaching Art, 5/07/08, by PA Teacher.
- Re: Elementary Ed Major teaching Art, 5/07/08, by gwynnetx.
- Re: Elementary Ed Major teaching Art, 5/08/08, by ImajinPs.
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