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    Re: trouble with student...need advise
    Posted by: Josie on 11/03/09

    Yikes, Definitely some sort of intervention is needed here, but with 3
    days left....really not a whole lot you can do but just get through.

    If you have her again next year (God forbid! LOL) set herself up to
    succeed by forming a relationship with her right off the bat. Get to
    know her as much as you can. Get her involved in the art room on day
    one: Could she help you load the kiln in the morning if she's there
    early, or after school? Hook her in with something fun though---
    You'd "pay" her for her time by teaching her how to use the pottery
    wheel, or make something extra out of clay. Give her a job with some
    responsibility attached---she will hopefully want to rise to the
    occassion. This will also give you one on one time together so you can
    do some bonding with her. Yes, it is taking lots of your time now, but
    it will be well worth it if you can get her to a point when all you
    have to do is give her a look and she'll behave.... just because she
    doesn't want to let you down. Now THAT would be a glorious day~ lol
    However, while you are waiting for this magical thing to happen, you
    need to do damage control in the classroom.

    If things start to progress to the point that you are at now, then I
    would sit her down alone and explain that while you might have let this
    behavior continue last year, you will not allow it to go on this year.
    You may want to acknowledge that you did allow more than you will allow
    this year so she knows right off the bat that "times they are
    a'changing." Tell her there will be a consequence each and every time
    she misbehaves (stay consistent.... you could take her stick the first
    time (or whatever behavior modification technique you use in the room)
    and the next time, move her seat. If she carries on, silently put a
    note down (I used to pre-print them when I had a student like this---a
    boy, a couple years back) that says "next reminder will be lunch with
    me." TRY not to call attention to your 'reminders'---quickly deliver
    the reminder (as you continue to teach) and walk away as to not engage
    her in a power struggle.

    I really like lunch detentions because:
    1.) They REALLY inconvenience the student: The last thing they want is
    to lose out on that social time
    2.) They are fairly immediate (unless you have her after lunch...
    hopefully you do not!) because the consequence is served many times a
    period or two later.
    3.) They give you a chance to mentor/talk with the student one on one.
    This is the only way to reach many of them, and many times there simply
    isn't enough time in the day to get to know them. Lunch detentions
    give you that opportunity. Cleaning the room together is a great way
    to keep busy and talk at the same time.... Ask her to help clean
    brushes. Most kids don't like to sit there anyway and would rather
    have a task. If she's really angry, she may say no. Don't act mad, or
    disappointed.... simply say "ok---no problem, you may just sit---just
    thought I'd throw it out there if you were bored" and then YOU continue
    to clean some brushes. The next time, I bet she'll take you up on it
    if you ask in the same non threatening manner. She will be more apt to
    chat with you if you are both busy in a task--- it will be less
    intimidating than if you're sitting at your desk asking her questions.

    This is likely to work if:
    1.) You are consistent: She ALWAYS receives this consequence when she
    acts up. You are giving her warnings, and SHE has the ultimate power
    to decide whether or not she'll take that last step and get the
    detention. One thing is for sure, if she does decide to go there,
    there will indeed be a consequence. That never changes.

    2.)You do not engage in any power play with her. Do not argue, do not
    get mad. Stay in control of the situation, but do not let her push
    your buttons. If she refuses a consequence (Like she will most likely
    say something like "I'm not going to your stupid lunch detention" if
    you have to assign her one) Do not argue with her. Keep it short "Now
    there's a choice you can make. Life IS full of choices." Deliver
    (pleasantly) and walk AWAY. Do not engage her. Do not worry about
    what it looks like to the class.... if you are confident and are not
    rattled, they will know that you are not letting her get away with
    anything. YOU are in control of the situation-- and the consequence
    that awaits sweet "jane" is something you will be keeping to yourself.

    3.)You are able to form some sort of a bond with her.

    You will have to get your administrator on board---and explain what you
    are doing, because there will need to be a consequence if she does not
    show up for your detention. I used to have to go down to the cafeteria
    and get "James" the first couple of times. The principal would be
    there monitoring lunch which worked out great because he made sure
    James came back with me. James soon got tired of that long awkward
    walk back to the room with me, and started showing up on his own. This
    was ideal (rather than having the principal assign an in school
    suspension etc. for skipping) because it showed James that he was not
    going to get out of my detention. It couldn't be 'replaced' with
    something else. After a while, he just resolved himself to the fact
    that I was relentless, and it wasn't worth the extra effort to resist.

    Of course the bummer is that you don't get to eat with the teachers,
    but it really is a small price to pay to make your life less miserable
    (and face it, it's close to miserable when you have a student like that
    in class!)

    Good luck! Kids like this can really be frustrating, and you may not
    see improvement for quite some time. There is no quick fix
    unfortunately and there will be days you think you're making progress
    only to back-slide again. Don't get discouraged---don't give up, just
    do what you can do and go easy on yourself. There often is not
    one "right answer" in handling these kinds of kids---they do keep us on
    our toes don't they? I often think that God sends them our way to keep
    things interesting, keep us humble, and challenge us to be better
    teachers. JUST when I think I've got it all figured out, in
    walks "Brandon" and teaches me that I still have a lot to learn. :)


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  • trouble with student...need advise, 11/02/09, by mART.
  • Re: trouble with student...need advise, 11/02/09, by Jean Bullock..
  • Re: trouble with student...need advise, 11/02/09, by mART.
  • Re: trouble with student...need advise, 11/03/09, by metalrho.
  • Re: trouble with student...need advise, 11/03/09, by Josie.
  • Re: trouble with student...need advise, 11/03/09, by mART.
  • Re: trouble with student...need advise, 11/04/09, by spluckygirl.
  • Re: trouble with student...need advise, 11/05/09, by spluckygirl.

     
     

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