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Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?
Posted by An alternative on 10/11/08

I'd like to offer an alternative that could be just as powerful
(if not more so) as the graphic image you have described. Do a
read aloud of the "children's" book, Faithful Elephants by Yukio
Tsuchiya, it's a very moving story about the starvation of three
elephants at the Tokyo zoo during WWII. This book illustrates
another facet of the costs of war and can also be used to talk
about the use of propaganda by governments during times of war.

On 10/11/08, Anthony Newby wrote:
> Well, my attempt is to ultimately have them think about social
> issues and politics and encourage them to research these
> things on their own as part of a project where they create
> political posters for or against. I'm not really taking a stand
> for or against anything, those choices are for them to decide
> on there own. I am merely showing them, this is the way the
> world is/has been. It's just a history timeline really.
>
> I have some kids that have no idea what the holocaust was. I
> think many times kids today are so caught up in there own
> issues that they need to see others are dealing with or have
> dealt with the same or worst. At any rate, I think I will leave
> out the most graphic images like the boy who lost his leg so I
> won't hear from parents or administration. Yet, I am planning
> to show some images from vietnam ... the famous picture of
> children running from napalm, Jews about to be hung during WW2
> by nazis, civil rights images, some of the abu ghraib photos
> like the man on the box ( probably the only one I can show from
> that) ,toppling saddams statue in iraq, the aids quilt ,
> ethiopian starvation, the famous victory kiss after ww2, etc.
>
> My goal is just to get the kids to choose a topic that
> interests them and think about the world in an enlightened way.
>
>
>
>
> On 10/11/08, Steve wrote:
>> Ask yourself, what is your instructional goal in showing
>> this kind of gratuitous violence to children? What is it you
>> want your students to actually learn? How is showing this
>> kind of stuff helping them learn and understand whatever it
>> is you are purporting to teach them? Anyone of sound mind
>> who is older than about 6 already knows that war is hell,
>> that war creates untimely and painful death to large numbers
>> of innocent people, and that war, and the cruelty that
>> inevitably springs from it, are nothing more than an
>> unfettered celebration of mankind's evil and bestial nature.
>>
>> If I were a student in your class, I would simply walk out
>> of your so called 'lesson' and go sit in the principal's
>> office until next period. If the principal's secretary then
>> directed me to go back to class, I would refuse to comply
>> until I spoke personally with the principal, at which time I
>> would unload on him/her, after which he/she would come in
>> later on and unload on you. Then I would not show up for
>> school the next day.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/11/08, Anthony Newby wrote:
>>> I am showing slides of the holocaust, iraq war , civil
>>> rights etc. I found a stunning picture of a child on a
>>> bike in iraq and his leg has been blown off somehow at
>>> the knee. His father is helping him up. It could be too
>>> graphic, but kids see this stuff almost every day these
>>> days on tv and in movies like "SAW". I want to put it in
>>> a real context and shake up there world a little. Should
>>> I include the pic in my slide show? Since these are 9 -
>>> 12th graders who will be in college in 4 years or less, I
>>> think its ok for them to see this. For younger kids I
>>> would say no. What is your opinion?


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• SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/11/08, by Anthony Newby.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/11/08, by Carolyn.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/11/08, by Cybrary Man.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/11/08, by Steve.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/11/08, by Anthony Newby.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/11/08, by Experienced.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/11/08, by Anthony Newby.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/11/08, by An alternative.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/12/08, by Craig Levan.
• Re: absolutely not , 10/12/08, by jay.
• Re: absolutely not , 10/12/08, by Anthony Newby.
• Re: absolutely not , 10/12/08, by NewCanadian.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/12/08, by Absolutely Not..
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/12/08, by JH.
• Re: absolutely not , 10/12/08, by jay.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL --Yes, do it, Anthony!, 10/12/08, by Experienced.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/13/08, by Rebecca.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL --Yes, do it, Anthony!, 10/13/08, by Anthony Newby.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/14/08, by tgs/ga/8.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL --Yes, do it, Anthony!, 10/14/08, by Experienced.
• Re: Film violence vs. the portrayal of real suffering, 10/15/08, by Sara.
• Re: Film violence vs. the portrayal of real suffering, 10/15/08, by Anthony Newby.
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/21/08, by maybe "newby" is the way to be....
• Re: SHOULD I SHOW GRAPHIC MATERIAL TO HIGH SCHOOLERS?, 10/23/08, by Experiences to "maybe".