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Re: Dibels reading assess.
Posted by Ginny on 9/03/06

    We have been trained to believe that DIBELS is an effective way to assess
    student reading skills. I have been reading "The Truth About DIBELS" by
    Kenneth S. Goodman and am concerned that I have been only told one side of
    the story by my state leaders and U of O. I don't want to implement DIBELS
    without being very sure that the time, money to be spent equals valid
    information. I am also concerned about the affects Dr. Goodman state about
    how the timed testing is not valid in 5-7 year olds and the stress it places
    on the children.

    I would appreciate anyone who has information that will help me make a
    determination. Is this a "Whole Language" vs. "Phonics" war where we are
    talking about personal opinons or is it a real.

    Thank your for your thoughts.


    On 4/04/06, Margaret Turner wrote:
    > On 3/04/06, Kathy wrote:
    >> I am an administrator looking at better ways to diagnose reading
    >> difficulties for our special education children in the elementary
    >> grades. We currently use observation survy in the early grades and
    >> frankly, it is hit and miss for children thereafter relative to specific
    >> skills. This leaves the inclusion class teachers struggling to teach
    >> without a clear understanding of what needs to be supported, etc.
    >> Anything you can tell me would help inform our team - thanks!
    >>
    >>
    >> On 1/11/06, Kim wrote:
    >>> Maureen, We are also considering DIBELS as an assessment tool. I
    >>> would be very interested in reading your paper. Please e-mail it to
    >>> me.
    >>> Thanks,
    >>> Kim
    >>>
    >>> On 12/08/05, Maureen wrote:
    >>>> On 7/14/05, Cheryle wrote:
    >>>>> On 7/14/05, A wrote:
    >>>>>> I am looking at DIBELS as a potential tool to use in my first
    >>>>>> grade classroom after attending a fluency PD this summer. The
    >>>>>> teacher leading the session, and several of the teachers in the
    >>>>>> session really liked this assessment, which is required for the
    >>>>>> Kentucky Reading First schools. (My school is not a Reading
    >>>>>> First school.) We are required to administer the DRA, and I
    >>>>>> think I will try DIBELS this year too. It is available free of
    >>>>>> charge from the DIBELS website.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I am interested in any feedback from folks who have used this
    >>>>>> assessment - pro and con. Please don't spare me your real
    >>>>>> opinion just because I am thinking of using it. I really want to
    >>>>>> know.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Thanks!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> This past year was the first that we used DIBELS in our district.
    >>>>> It has been mandated by the state. It can be time consuming,
    >>>>> especially in the grades K-2. Third grade only has the oral reading
    >>>>> fluency test. I used it to help me pinpoint areas where particular
    >>>>> children needed help. However, my co=workers and I found faults
    >>>>> with it as well. I would recommend going to the University of
    >>>>> Oregon website (Official DIBELS Homepage.
    >>>>> http://dibels.uoregon.edu/) and read the technical papers listed
    >>>>> there, especially Technical Report #10 by Good and Kaminsky.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> My curiosity was aroused when we found that students followed a
    >>>>> pattern of pass-fail-pass-fail and so on. TR #10 explains how the
    >>>>> creators of DIBELS leveled the passages. It makes no sense to me.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> For one of my Master's classes I wrote a paper on my findings in my
    >>>>> classroom. I would be glad to email it to you if you are interested
    >>>>> in reading it.
    >>>>
    >>>> I am studying for the National Boards. I would love to read the
    >>> paper
    >>>> you wrote on it. Thanks,
    >>>> Maureen
    >
    > Hi, I am Margaret Turner. I'm a reading coach in Florida. We've been
    > using the DIBELS Assessment for about 5 years now. We find it to be
    > invaluable in predicting success and failure in reading. What we had to
    > learn was that the dibels is assessing the reading process itself. The
    > reading process develops the way the dibels assesses; phonemic and
    > phonological awareness,the alphabetic principle, phonics, and finally oral
    > reading fluency. If we can help the children develop the skills in each
    > one of those categories, the goal of reading fluency will happen. From
    > there, our real goal, comprehension will occur. It's a process. The
    > children can't skip any or the processes and be successful readers. The
    > DIBELS allows us to see where they are in the process and address that
    > area of weakness. Usually, it works very well.
    > Sometimes we have students that can't seem to get it no matter what you do.
    > I'm looking for an assessment for those students.

     
     

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