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    Re: Which direction to become BOTH a school counselor and LC
    Posted by April on 6/01/08

    Jeff,

    I actually completed the Hopkins program in May last year.
    I would direct you to go the clincial route b/c this way you
    are open to working in a school and/or a clinical setting
    where if you do school you are NOT going to be easily
    welcomed to take positions in a clinical setting; which you
    may later want? I actually work in a school now and will go
    on for my PhD in fall 2009. I would be happy to answer your
    questions about hopkins program and/or the field. I just
    licensed at the begining of may as LCPC. The NCE was a
    breeze! Hopkins prepares you really well!

    april april.ams@gmail.com

    On 5/06/08, Jeff wrote:
    > I am interested in becoming a counselor. I used to work
    in
    > a psychjiatric hospital and loved it. I enjoy being a
    > teacher. I would be happy as either a therapist or an
    > educator. I would like to do things in a way that
    > qualifies me for both. I live in MD and do know what I
    > need to become a school counselor and an LCPC (Licensed
    > Clinical Professional Counselor). However, I don't know
    > the job market that well.
    >
    > My original thought was a 48credit MA program in school
    > counseling. Then, to get the additional 12 credits I'd
    > need for my LCPC I'd take a 15 credit Clinical Counseling
    > certificate at Hopkins. That way, I'd be qualified for
    > school counseling (most school counseling jobs actually
    pay
    > better than mental health counseling jobs) AND for mental
    > health work. I'd work as a school counselor during the
    day
    > and do mental health work part-time in the evening. Once
    I
    > had the experience to get my license I'd consider either
    > staying with that combination, or getting a private
    > practice started.
    >
    > However, my concern is that when I worked at the psych
    > hospital they looked down on any degree with "school" in
    > front of it. For instance, a school psychologist with a
    > Ph.D. and their state license is a fully qualified
    > psychologist who is qualified to work in any setting any
    > other psychologist may work (school, counseling and
    > clinical psychology are considered the three fields
    > within "professional psychology"). However, the reaction
    > to the hospital staff about any school psychologists
    > working there was "this is a hospital, not a school".
    >
    > So, I am concerned that I may be at a disadvantage for non-
    > school counseling jobs if the degree is in school
    > counseling no matter what certificates and licenses I pick
    > up later.
    >
    > I've started considering going for a clinical counseling
    or
    > mental health counseling degree and then take a CAGS/Ed.S.
    > in school counseling to enable me to be qualified for
    > either type of position. It may take a bit more
    > coursework, but if it was the best way to get where I
    > wanted to go, it may be worth it. However, I read that in
    > many states there is already many more school counselors
    > applying than there are positions. My concern is that
    they
    > may use the degree outside school counseling as a way to
    > weed me out of the running just to pare things down a bit.
    >
    > So, has anyone out there used their school counseling
    > degree and additional coursework to obtain therapist
    > positions? Has the degree been a hinderance when applying
    > for positions? Also, has anyone used a mental
    > health/community/clinical counseling degree and additional
    > coursework to obtain a school counseling position? Has
    > that degree been a hinderance when applying for positions?
    >
    > I thank you in advance for your help.

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  • Which direction to become BOTH a school counselor and LCPC, 5/06/08, by Jeff.
  • Re: Which direction to become BOTH a school counselor and LC, 5/06/08, by lacey.
  • Re: Which direction to become BOTH a school counselor and LC, 5/07/08, by Musicmae.
  • Re: Which direction to become BOTH a school counselor and LC, 5/07/08, by Jeff.
  • Re: Which direction to become BOTH a school counselor and LC, 5/08/08, by Counselor.
  • Re: Which direction to become BOTH a school counselor and LC, 6/01/08, by April .
  • Re: Which direction to become BOTH a school counselor and LC, 6/04/08, by Jeff.
  • Re: Which direction to become BOTH a school counselor and LC, 6/06/08, by liz.
  • Re: Which direction to become BOTH a school counselor and LC, 6/06/08, by Susan.

     
     

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