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    Re: Kids won't listen......
    Posted by fair question on 6/23/08

    On 6/23/08, not trying to cause controversy

    Me neither but I've certainly noticed there are cultural
    differences from culture to culture - ....and though I know
    white teachers who do scream, I've noticed that
    screaming/yelling is not uncommonly done in African American
    schools. I'm not passing judgment on it - it is what it is.

    But I'm not a screamer and wouldn't want to be. I don' t
    have answers to your guestion but I think it's a fair
    question as well as a brave one. When in Rome do we have to
    do as the Romans do?

    > I teach in a new private school that is 90% african
    > american students. Most of these students come from a
    > close by private school that is all african american
    > including the teachers. Last year was my first year at
    > this school and I quickly learned that the students would
    > not listen to even simple direction given by me becuase I
    > am white and I don't scream. (I tested this theory out by
    > having another familiar teacher who is african american
    > give instructions one day) I refuse to scream at children,
    > I do not think it is appropriate for anyone to scream and
    > yell at children. All the white teachers in my school had
    > this problem. Where any teacher or personel who were
    > african american instantly garnered respect, authority and
    > was completely feared by the students. The students would
    > not respond unless we either a) screamed or b) offered an
    > immediate reward (aka candy). We tried everything. Card
    > systems, positive reinforcements, taking recess away, and
    > so many other things. The background on these children
    > are that they come from an environment that is
    > workbook/worksheet oriented and were told not to talk or
    > do anything all day except thier worksheets. So imagine
    > our surprise when the children had no social skills, could
    > not work in groups, or recieve direct instruction without
    > the classroom erupting in chaos, fighting, and behaviour
    > problems. I am worried about starting another year with
    > the upcomming group. The group comming to me is comming
    > from the teacher next door. I heard her, another white
    > teacher, scream at them all day all last year. It really
    > bothered me so I approached her and asked her why she had
    > to yell so much. She told me that the students wouldn't
    > follow directives unless she was doing so. So I observed
    > in her class one day and saw the same thing. She tried
    > positive reinforcements and so on. She was right. It
    > didn't work. Now that I am recieving her group this
    > year.......I'm worried. I don't want to scream at kids
    > all day. Its not right. I'm really not trying to cause a
    > racial controversy here, but I think this might be
    > something cultural and I am asking for some advice on how
    > to deal with this. I don't want to spend next school year
    > yelling or giving out candy.

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  • Kids won't listen......, 6/23/08, by not trying to cause controversy..
  • Re: Kids won't listen......, 6/23/08, by fair question.
  • Re: Kids won't listen......, 6/23/08, by Tom.
  • Re: Kids won't listen......, 6/23/08, by Kel/IL/2nd.
  • Re: Kids won't listen......, 6/23/08, by quick question.
  • Re: Kids won't listen [Ideas = TOME], 6/23/08, by Tom.
  • Re: Kids won't listen......, 6/25/08, by Old Fashioned Discipline.
  • Re: Kids won't listen......, 6/26/08, by Viola Swamp.
  • Re: Kids won't listen......, 7/14/08, by Kioni Carter.

     
     

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