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Re: gas prices -- Self Suffiency
Posted by Dean on 4/25/05
Hi guys, long time, no post.
Sue, your argument is simplistic and unhelpful.
Dan, in general terms, I share your conviction that alternative energy sources can help to make the USA more self-sufficient than it currently is. As I have counseled in the past, the higher fuel prices (note that higher is a relative term--when indexed for inflation, current gas prices are not as high as they have been in the past) that we are experiencing, if they continue, will provide an extra incentive for businesses/entrepreneurs to explore, develop, and (ultimately) provide cost-effective alternative energy options to help meet our needs.
-Dean
On 4/24/05, Dan wrote: > On 4/24/05, sue wrote: >> The only way to reduce fuel costs is to vote out the Republican >> Party at every level and have a government that cares for the >> middle class. > > There is no doubt that the government has let us down, but that > doesn't mean that politics is the only solution. > > Every farm in America (and Canada too) should be in the energy > business. A lot of them are already involved. Instead of having to > import energy, we should be using what we already have...our brains! > Wind production can be a cash crop. Biodeisel can run trucks and > other farm machinery cleaner and cheaper. Solar power can replace > or augment electric needs. Alternative energy is cost productive. > > Gasohol can run cars at an 85&37; alcohol, 25&37; petroleum ratio. > Gasohol is now (because of the high prices and government > intragenence) a cheaper alternative to petrolium. If demand for gas > drives the market, please note that many cars are made with > variable fuel injection technology, which measures the oxygenate > content of the fuel (since alcohol, ETOH, contains an oxygen > molecule which makes it burn more efficiently when the timing and > air/fuel mix are appropriately adjusted by a computer chip that is > factory installed). > > Chances are that your car is set up for gasohol.In fact, over 2 > million new cars per year in the USA already are set up to run on > E85. Experts in the ethanol industry predict 20&37; of the cars will > be fueled by ethanol in just 6 to 8 years and with ethanol > production increasing by 12&37;/yr., we have the capacity to do this. > The cost of setting up a small still and making "sunshine in a > bottle" is far less than buying oil from halfway around the world. > > There are a lot of other ways, but time flies....
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