I am not sure where there are districts that pay their coaches
over the summer. I am a coach and my summer work that I do is
unpaid. This has been the case with two other districts that I
taught in as well and in two different states. j

On 8/04/09, Midwest Teacher wrote:

> 8/4/09
>
> "Did you know that 55% of teachers leave the profession
> before 5 years of teaching"
>
> "Tenure protects teachers and the students. If there was no
> tenure, the school districts would fire teachers who began
> to make too much on the pay scale to help save money,
> regardless if they were excellent teachers or not."
>
> Thank you for standing up for teachers. I am a young beginning
> teacher, fresh out of college, licensed, who has been
> substituting the past year. I do want to bring up my point of
> view regardless of what Glenn Beck has said.
>
> In my town, not a small one at that (300,000-400,000), friends
> and families are already being hired and are working. There is
> so much competition for teaching positions that unless you have
> an "in", you will rarely get even an interview. And that is in
> my city, not some small country town. An acquaintance of mine,
> would've made a great teacher-very much into hands on lessons,
> was hired only for a temp position when someone was pregnant. I
> later learned that a daughter of a neighbor of a school board
> member got a permanent position over my friend. The "buddy
> system" or "good old boy" system is already greatly in effect!
> Reminds me of the Jackson "Kitchen Cabinet" or of Grant
> employing all his buddies.
>
> We were always told the figure of 55% before five years.
> However, no one can say with any accuracy why those teachers
> really left the profession, or even if they did so permanently.
> Lets be honest, the teaching profession is hard, very hard. It
> is not something that anyone can just do and do well. You have
> to "have the heart of a teacher" and a thick skin will help.
> However, it may be wise for schools to want to get younger,
> fresh, hands into the pot. If you think of a school as a
> business, experience is great as long as they still bring
> results. Unfortunately, I have met many who seem to be teaching
> the same way as they did in 1975. With competition for openings
> ever increasing, and demand for results increasing, schools may
> want to energize their workforce. Not to mention a lot of the
> time first year teachers are give the "worst" classes and
> locations. That may have something to do with the number 55%.
>
> I would never call anyone bad at their job without knowing the
> details first. But I do know that I would make a great teacher
> but I can not seem to find a permanent job. I want to get a
> masters; however, if I do so I will most likely hurt my chances
> of being hired right away (not to mention I can't afford it
> because I'm not making a good salary). Maybe not, I've been
> told both ways. I do know it's a struggle. Like any work force,
> there are great, average, and bad. Either way it means you're
> employed and I'm not. I think I would like to be considered
> even a bad teacher if it meant I was teaching. And, lets be
> honest again, Unions make it real easy to be bad at something
> and still get paid.
>
> The last point you made about pay and the summers. Teachers, at
> least in my state and districts, get the choice of receiving a
> paycheck monthly or in lump sums. Not only that, its is a
> salaried amount which is supposed to reflect hours worked on
> the job. So if you earn 50,000/yr and you have summers off, you
> divide by 9 months not 12. Your 50,000 just became more
> valuable because anyone else earning the same salary/yr would
> most likely be working 12 months. Ive known many teachers who
> had summer jobs, if they had time. To be honest, many teachers
> have sports or other school functions that they participate in
> during summer. However, most are paid extra for that work. It
> just was not a strong point for you to bring up. However, I did
> not hear/see what Beck said, so I may not know all the details
> of your argument.
>
> Thank you though for standing up for the profession anyways!
> Teachers work hard and do more for society than we get credit
> for. But if one can do great good, than it must be possible to
> do great harm. That is why "good" teachers should be praised,
> "bad" ones should be replaced.

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