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Re: NCLB
Posted by to Rodeo on 5/17/08
On 5/16/08, Rodeo wrote:
> The poster who thinks students who have been failed should just be
> passed by the principal against the teacher's objections should be
> stripped of their right to be a teacher or a principal. If a student
> does not meet the requirements of a course, then that student's
> second chance should be the chance to retake the course and graduate
> late, not to just be passed with a magic wave of the principal's
> totalitarian wand.
>
> Students who go to these types of schools with principals who pass
> them when the teacher failed them are being done a huge disservice.
> These students are taught that there are no consequences in life for
> poor work ethic, misbehavior, not doing what they should, doing what
> they should not, etc. These students will be far more likely to
> flunk out of college, lose jobs, go to jail and so on because they
> have been taught by people like Swilley that they will not be held
> accountable for their actions or inactions. That is a travesty. While I agree that merely being passed along is a travesty, I must
object to the idea that the only recourse for the student would be to
retake the class. Unfortunately, many students who didn't get it the
first time, aren't suddenly going to get it the second time. Many
times this can be due to undiagnosed learning disabilities. For
example, I have a student whom I suspect is severely dyslexic, yet she
has never had an official diagnosis. The schools aren't allowed to
diagnose and most parents are uneducated where learning disabilities
are concerned and don't know how or where to get help. Most of the
other teachers at my school just say she is "low." How sad. She can
be very bright at times, it just takes her a lot longer. Many high
school courses are very scripted and paced, they usually don't allow
for these types of students. To merely pass her along is sending the
wrong message, but forcing her to repeat a course again is also
ludicrous. A student who has failed a course needs a new environment for the
course. They need a different teacher, different pacing, different
projects, etc. They need this for two reasons, first to give them a
fresh start and second, to have a teacher who can't possibly be biased
towards their low performance. I know we are all professionals and
wouldn't do that to a student but we are also human and try as we
might, those biases can come out whether we are aware of them or not.
Also, not all students who fail have learning disabilities, however,
consider the possibility at least.
Posts on this thread, including this one
- Administrators changing seniors grades!, 5/15/08, by BMoreTeacher.
- Re: Administrators changing seniors grades!, 5/15/08, by Rodeo.
- Re: A question. , 5/16/08, by L. Swilley .
- Re: Further on this interesting case , 5/16/08, by L. Swilley .
- Re: NCLB, 5/16/08, by LbP.
- Re: A question. , 5/16/08, by What????.
- Re: NCLB, 5/16/08, by Rodeo.
- Re: A question. , 5/17/08, by ACP.
- Re: Thanks, ACP, 5/17/08, by L. Swilley .
- Re: Administrators changing seniors grades!, 5/17/08, by Sara.
- Re: NCLB, 5/17/08, by to Rodeo.
- Re: Further on this interesting case / completely agree, 5/17/08, by Sara.
- Re: Thanks, ACP, 5/17/08, by ACP.
- Re: Further on this interesting case , 5/17/08, by I agree.
- Re: A question. , 5/17/08, by To ACP.
- Re: A question. , 5/17/08, by ACP.
- Re: Administrators changing seniors grades!, 5/17/08, by BMorePeachy.
- Re: Administrators changing seniors grades!, 5/17/08, by think of the workplace.
- Re: Administrators changing seniors grades!, 5/18/08, by high school English teacher.
- Re: This very interesting and very important thread, 5/18/08, by L. Swilley .
- Re: A question - tracking students early on , 5/18/08, by BTrack.
- Re: Administrators changing seniors grades!, 5/18/08, by history teacher.
- Re: This very interesting and very important thread, 5/18/08, by history teacher.
- Re: This very interesting and very important thread, 5/18/08, by BMoreTeacher .
- Re: Administrators changing seniors grades!, 5/18/08, by history teacher.
- Re: This very interesting and very important thread, 5/19/08, by Catsister.
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