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    Re: Our school's doing it, here our the complaints and
    Posted by: justifications from public forum meeting (long) on 11/01/09


    > I am concerned about students studying at home on those
    > nice summer days, athletes having practice over these
    > breaks which would essentially not give them a complete
    > break, or maybe going on vacation as families are forced to
    > change vacation schedules, topics ending abruptly or rushed
    > at the end of 9 weeks, summer jobs, etc.
    >

    Our district is currently making the move to a calendar very
    similar to the one that you are describing. The only
    difference is that we will have only two weeks off in between
    each quarter, in addition to the two weeks off at Christmas.
    There were many in our community who had concerns and strong
    feelings about the issue. Tradition is a hard thing to
    change. But it is tradition that dictates our “regular”
    calendar, not educational research.

    Let’s look at your concerns one by one…..
    1) Kids studying during nice summer days….. Kids some how
    manage to study during April, May, September and October.
    Further more, our students are so used to air conditioning,
    that many of them find summer days too hot and end up staying
    inside most of the time anyway. Many of them would actually
    prefer to have some time off when it is not quite so hot
    outside. If this is true where I live (Minnesota) it is
    definitely true to all points south of here.

    2) Athletes having practice over breaks…..They have practice
    over breaks NOW!! Our fall sports teams start practice weeks
    before school begins. Our coaches also have practice over
    Christmas vacation as well.

    3) Vacation time…..When my husband heard about my new
    schedule, he was overjoyed. Every single person he works
    with had school age kids and it is a fight every summer over
    who gets to take what time off. We are actually probably
    going to be going on more vacations now because he can
    actually get the time off and we will be saving money not
    having to go during peak season.

    4) Topics ending abruptly or rushed….How do you do it now
    for Christmas break? Yes this one will take a little more
    planning, but it can be done.

    5) Summer jobs…..How many off your staff actually
    have “summer” jobs? We have a percentage of teachers
    working, but all but one have “second jobs” which they work
    year round, not just during the summer. What percentage of
    teachers on your staff is this actually going to effect?
    Once you have that figured out, will this small number
    justify not doing some about the well-documented loss of
    learning that happens over the lengthy summer break. It
    doesn’t.

    Other complaints I heard at our district…..

    6) The daycares won’t be able to adjust…. The day care
    providers were actually a little offended at this because
    they perceived it as an insult to their intelligence. The
    towns, day care providers plan on doing the same thing they
    normally do when they transition from May to June. The only
    true worry was would the High school have the same days as
    the elementary, since we have a lot of JH and HS girls
    babysitting. The administration assured the public that they
    two schedules would be the same.

    7) The pool and city rec schedules would suffer….This one
    got shot down pretty quickly because most of the rec events
    happen in June and July anyways. Not to mention the fact
    that the pool has a hard time with staffing after the college
    kids leave in early August.

    8) Teachers won’t be able to go to college during the
    summer…..The district easily handled this argument by finding
    out when summer college classes were and scheduled the summer
    break around it.

    9) The students will resist the new schedule……They will
    until they have their first two week break. Then they’ll
    love the second one. The one in the Spring when they are
    truly going stir crazy in school will seem like a God send.
    No there won’t be all that much resistance by the second
    year. Besides, what activities that are fun the first two
    weeks of summer are pretty boring by July, especially by
    August. Most kids are “ready” for a change by the end of
    July. The new schedule will give them four opportunities at
    those “first two weeks” of summer.

    10) My kids have so much fun during the summer/They do so
    much…… I’m glad you do, but the reality is that most kids
    don’t. With both parents working, most kids sit home and
    watch TV most of the summer, especially after it gets boring
    in July and August. Even the kids that aren’t watching TV,
    don’t get to roam the neighborhoods like we used to. Most
    are not allowed to leave the yard or apartment. As far as
    the argument about them do so much, they can do that on those
    two week breaks also, so that’s not really a legitimate
    argument.

    11) We’ve always done it this way……Actually we haven’t. All
    students, ages 5-18, going to school from September to May,
    for 7 hours a day, is actually a fairly new practice.
    Sticking to tradition is fine if there is an actually reason
    for it. There isn’t a reason for this one anymore. I live
    in a small rural town in the middle of farm country, even
    here less than 15% of our kids live on working farms. When
    they are needed is not in the summer, it’s during planting
    and harvest, which actually occur during the school year
    itself.


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  • Re: Year round high schools, 10/31/09, by Nikki.
  • Re: Year round high schools, 10/31/09, by Zhel.
  • Re: Year round high schools. Great Ideas, where wanted, 10/31/09, by MM.
  • Re: Our school's doing it, here our the complaints and , 11/01/09, by justifications from public forum meeting (long).
  • Re: Our school's doing it, here our the complaints and , 11/01/09, by Trivialize It.
  • Re: Our school's doing it, here our the complaints and , 11/01/09, by MM.
  • Re: Our school's doing it, here our the complaints and , 11/01/09, by Trivialize It.
  • Re: Our school's doing it, here our the complaints and , 11/01/09, by to triavilze it.
  • Re: school choice, 11/01/09, by Connie.
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  • Re: anon on this one because Walt Disney world is , 11/02/09, by defintiely not an educational reason to switch.
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  • Re: Year round high schools, 11/03/09, by ACP.
  • Re: Year round high schools. Even so..., 11/03/09, by MM.
  • Re: Year round high schools. Even so..., 11/03/09, by Joella.
  • Re: Year round high schools. Even so..., 11/03/09, by lbp.
  • Re: Year round high schools. Even so..., 11/04/09, by ACP.
  • Re: Year round high schools. Good Post, ACP. Thanks, 11/04/09, by MM.
  • Re: Year round high schools. Even so..., 11/07/09, by Agree with ACP here.
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