SUBSCRIBE chat center Chatboards|Lessons|Projects|Classifieds|Mailrings|Gazette|Jobs|Harry Wong|Live!|Advertise SUBMIT POST ALL POSTS TOP POSTS Share | Print | Report Post Math Teachers Chatboard Search Teachers.Net Advanced Quick Links: Set Hot Now... • July 2008 Gazette • Teacher Tech Center • The Lesson Bank Most Popular • Set Your Quick Links • Chat Center • All Chatboards • Lesson Bank • Teacher Mailrings • Project Center • Classified Ads • Live Chat & Meetings Select by • State/Region • Grade Level • Curriculum • Interest Group • Teaching Method Special Topics • Technology • Languages • Hot Topics • Career Center • Distance Learning • Fundraising • Tutoring Center • Teacher's Bookshelf • Free Printables • Classroom Photos • Meeting Archive • Teaching Articles • Library • Web Tools • Webring • Search • Advertise   Re: Praxis ii middle school math Posted by Rich/CA/Math on 5/16/08 On 5/16/08, smarkham01 wrote: > Really not a bad idea. A better idea might be to hold math teachers to a real, > achievable standard; can people actually learn from you. Teaching is far more > than subject knowledge, it is being able to convey the information to others. > The test I would suggest is - How many of your students require remedial > training the following year and how does that number with your peers? This > method works well in a public school system, though there isn't a way to > include > the exit level course since not all students take a college level class > immediately after. If you have read the whole thread you will see that no one has suggested that teaching skill is subordinate to subject matter competency. No has suggested that so long as someone knows the math they will be a good teacher. The point that *has* been made is that without subject matter competency, all of the teaching skill in the world will not result in students' learning. Matematically we would say that subject matter competency is a necessary but not sufficient requirement for a math teacher. And the praxis middle school math test is so basic that a failure to sail through it calls into serious question the subject matter competence of those who fail it. Posts on this thread, including this one Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 4/20/08, by LJ. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 4/20/08, by Pragmatic. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 4/20/08, by Rich/CA/Math. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 4/21/08, by Lawrence_NJ. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 4/21/08, by Rich/CA/Math. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 4/21/08, by Juliana. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 4/21/08, by Lawrence_NJ . Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 4/21/08, by Pragmatic. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 4/21/08, by Lawrence_NJ. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 4/21/08, by Pragmatic. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 4/21/08, by Rich/CA/Math. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 4/22/08, by Lawrence_NJ. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 4/22/08, by Rich/CA/Math. Re: Reply to Pragmatic, 4/24/08, by Howard Rosenbaum. Re: Reply to Pragmatic, 4/24/08, by Rich/CA/Math. Re: Reply to Pragmatic, 4/25/08, by Pragmatic. Re: Reply to Pragmatic, 4/25/08, by Rich/CA/Math. Re: Praxis ii middle school math - Three Personal Examples, 4/27/08, by sd. Re: Praxis ii middle school math - Three Personal Examples, 4/27/08, by Rich/CA/Math. Re: Praxis ii middle school math - Three Personal Examples, 4/27/08, by DSF/NJ. Re: Praxis ii middle school math - Three Personal Examples, 4/28/08, by Pragmatic. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 5/06/08, by Jackie. Re: Curious to know..., 5/06/08, by Angie C.. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 5/07/08, by Sue. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 5/16/08, by Tom418. Re: Curious to know..., 5/16/08, by Tom418. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 5/16/08, by smarkham01. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 5/16/08, by Rich/CA/Math. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 5/17/08, by Tom418. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 5/23/08, by smarkham01. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 5/24/08, by Pragmatic. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 5/24/08, by Rich/CA/Math. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 5/24/08, by smarkham01. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 5/24/08, by Rich/CA/Math. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 5/25/08, by smarkham01. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 5/26/08, by concerned. Re: Praxis ii middle school math, 5/27/08, by Walt.       June: The 30 Days of Teachers.Net (Introduction) 1 The Gazette 2 The Mailrings 3 Harry Wong 4 Lesson Bank 5 Tech Center 6 Teacher Classifieds 7 State Teachers.Net 8 Live Chat & Meetings 9 Teacher Printables 10 Project Center 11 Chatboard Network 12 Share Teachers.Net 13 Your Feedback 14 Interest Groups 15 Administrators.Net 16 Chat Center 17 Streaming Teacher Video 18 Tutoring Center 19 Academic Grants 20 Teachers.Net Bookshelf 21 Chatboard Tips 22 Grade Levels 23 Staffroom Flyer 24 Teachers.Net Archives 25 Hot Topics 26 Language Arts 27 Subject Areas 28 Quick Links 29 Meet Teachers.Net 30 Summer Job Fair

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