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Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?
Posted by vet English teacher on 10/09/08
I'm assuming you want what you do to make a positive
difference with her. Is that what you want or at this point
are you so frustrated you simply want her punished?
People shouldn't give advice without knowing your goal - what
do you want to achieve? What you do depends on what you want
to achieve.
In my experience, kids such as this one get worse - not better
- after they're written up. They get more difficult to manage
not easier to manage. It's human nature and like the
certainty we have about the sun rising tomorrow morning, I'm
that certain this kid will get worse if written up. Unless of
course you have a wizard with kids Principal but I've found
most Principals not to be all that good with kids.
If her writing is always tiny, that's a red flag about her
underlying skills and a sure sign of a learning difference. It
it's not, she still sounds like she's got issues to me -
processing issues, call them whatever we will - not every kid
has a personality or a profile that's well suited to school
and in the better world, we'd have a different kind of school
for such kids. Schools with more activity and less sitting,
schools with smaller class sizes etc. etc.
But we don't and what do we do until then? Well, you told
when she couldn't go to cheerleading trials - did you tell her
when she could go? Don't assume she can figure that on her
own - she doesn't sound like a strong thinker. "Kelly, of
course you can't go now - we're taking a test but you can go
after class or during lunch or after school. This isn't your
last chance by any means. I hope you make the team."
Modern people including modern kids argue - it's a societal
trait, it's now endemic in our culture. If you're asking how
to get people to stop arguing, turn back the clock of time is
my only suggestion. They didn't the 50s 'the Silent Society'
for nothing.
In these situations- use your wits - not your seeming
authority because we have no real power over other peoples'
emotions. We cannot command people to feel differently than
they do and it's their emotions that fuse the situation.Kids
have emotional reactions - be savvy when they do and defuse
the situation. It's also endemic in our culture now to 'be
cool'. So coolly ask "what's up with this? What are you all
riled up about? Everything's under control. There's nothing
to get jumpy about." Middle school kids hear that and
especially her peers who will then turn to her with looks on
their faces like "Teacher's right. You're not carryin'
yourself cool."
Find out if other teachers in the building - even one- has a
working relationship with this student. Then find out how they
ever accomplished it.... build bridges, not walls.
My humble opinion - good luck with her.
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Posts on this thread, including this one
- should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/08/08, by Aggravated.
- Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/08/08, by jh.
- Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/08/08, by sb.
- Re: Hmm..., 10/08/08, by Mshope.
- Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/08/08, by Rebecca.
- Re: Your school should be written up, 10/08/08, by i think.
- Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by vet English teacher.
- Re: should I write a discipline...? Agree with Rebecca, 10/09/08, by ~connie (who loves Love and Logic).
- Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by Ima Teacher.
- Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by to all who responded...thanks...and one more thing about her.
- Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by 11 years as teacher.
- Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by 11 years as a teacher.
- Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by vet teacher.
- Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by OP with a few more (longish)responses...to vet teacher et al.
- Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by vet teacher.
- Re: What love and logic book?, 10/09/08, by bsk.
- Re: What love and logic book?, 10/09/08, by Rebecca.
- Re: Your school should be written up- Thank You!, 10/10/08, by Terri.
- Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/10/08, by Terri.
- Re: Your school should be written up- Thank You!, 10/10/08, by Carolyn.
- Re: What love and logic book? Great book, 10/12/08, by Mshope.
- Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/13/08, by Jawnte Everette.
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