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Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?
Posted by vet teacher on 10/09/08

On 10/09/08, OP with a few more (longish)responses...to vet teacher et al
wrote:
> Yes. As a matter of fact, with me, writing her up worked; with others,
> (that's what EVERYBODY did), it did not. Why? I have no idea; that's
> why I'm here.

You were here to ask if you should write her up and if others would write
her up. You didn't ask why writing her up worked last year but that it
did means it just might again this year. Which is amazing considering her
lack of impulse control - maybe she has some after all. But goodness why
wonder if you should do it if it worked - go for what works. Likely if you
write her as often as you did last year, you can bring her around again
little by little. History often repeats itself and so why doubt yourself
so much?

And amazing that you were able to make headway with such a troubled
student - but the not looking you in the eye stuff might be cultural.
Kids from the islands - it's not appropriate to look an adult in the eyes
- they're taught to keep their heads down in one on one conversations with
adults. I'd give her the benefit of the doubt on that one unless... she
used to look you in the eye, then I'd make certain sure she did it again
and every time we talked.

Keep your referral slips close at hand and your pencil sharpened.

> What I did today: I called her Dad--he's from Jamaica, I think...and I
> don't know whether he did not understand what I was saying re his
> daughter's behavior/slipping grades...or he did not care...he yessed me
> to death...he did say she "probably did not bring her progress report
> home" which indicated the problems we're having with her...I suggested
> he schedule a meeting with guidance so she can get back on track before
> she goes into high school...
> What the girl said when I asked her why we're back at the beginning?
> Nothing at all. She would not even LOOK me in the eye.
> I'm fairly certain she has very little impulse control. One of the
> teachers met her mom a few yrs ago--mom has little impulse control as
> well--she kept touching the teacher's hair and face while they were
> talking, for example.
> Also what I did today: I did write her up. I included all of the
> problematic behavior on the referral. She came to class late, as she
> was at the principal's office; she was very subdued during class
> (pretty much the MO last yr; I'd write her up, she'd come to class; I'd
> circulate during lessons, help her, compliment on her what she did
> right yadda yadda--little by little she came around...) and yes, I am
> frustrated with her monumental landslide. My one consolation: I won't
> have her anymore after this yr (we almost never retain students, even
> if they fail ALL subjects). My one fear: I'm thinking about
> transferring to high school--I'm thinking the kids'll take school even
> a tiny bit more seriously--and there she'll be, again, sitting in my
> classroom, yelling across the room to her classmates...slamming
> books...and etc....(as an aside: I taught her 6 yr older brother way
> back when in his 7th grade..he was respectful, quiet, and though not
> great at the subject matter, a really hard worker..I was SHOCKED to
> find out that just recently he was 'sent away' to an institutional
> school/jail for burglary and assault...). Oh did I mention...with 2
> older brothers and a younger sister (who she often babysits), the mom
> is pregnant again. So I understand the student has issues. But she
> must understand, by now, that her actions have consequences, and often
> negative ones, especially in school.
>
>

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• should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/08/08, by Aggravated.
• Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/08/08, by jh.
• Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/08/08, by sb.
• Re: Hmm..., 10/08/08, by Mshope.
• Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/08/08, by Rebecca.
• Re: Your school should be written up, 10/08/08, by i think.
• Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by vet English teacher.
• Re: should I write a discipline...? Agree with Rebecca, 10/09/08, by ~connie (who loves Love and Logic).
• Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by Ima Teacher.
• Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by to all who responded...thanks...and one more thing about her.
• Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by 11 years as teacher.
• Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by 11 years as a teacher.
• Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by vet teacher.
• Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by OP with a few more (longish)responses...to vet teacher et al.
• Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/09/08, by vet teacher.
• Re: What love and logic book?, 10/09/08, by bsk.
• Re: What love and logic book?, 10/09/08, by Rebecca.
• Re: Your school should be written up- Thank You!, 10/10/08, by Terri.
• Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/10/08, by Terri.
• Re: Your school should be written up- Thank You!, 10/10/08, by Carolyn.
• Re: What love and logic book? Great book, 10/12/08, by Mshope.
• Re: should I write a discipline on this student? would you?, 10/13/08, by Jawnte Everette.