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	Re: What would you do to combat this thinking? Posted by Joseph on 5/05/08 The sphericity of the earth has been scientifically established since at least 500 BC, despite the persistent myth that most people in the middle ages, even the educated ones, believed it to be flat. In spite of this, a Flat Earth Society in London, based on biblical interpretation, arose in the 19th century and found adherents in the US who remained active until the 1950s. There is also a present-day flat earth society in California, although I personally can't decide whether its membership actually believe what they preach or if it's an elaborate postmodern hoax. Either way, it's almost impossible to believe that there AREN'T people, probably a lot of them, who insist that the earth is a disc and not an oblate spheroid. There are also groups of pre-copernican "fixed-earthers" and people who believe that the moon landing was faked. (There's probably a lot of overlap in these groups.) Should science teachers give these groups "equal time" in their classes, since they all claim to have incontrovertible scientific evidence to support their claims? On 5/05/08, Kevin wrote: > On 5/05/08, Bill of SC wrote: > >> The point is not global warming, I'm a believer, the point >> is shoving one's beliefs down the throat of others. Especially >> the captive audience of a classroom. Our job, as teachers, is >> not to indoctrinate but to educate. We shouldn't ever get in a >> pissing match with a ten year old; after all we are supposed to >> be the adults. Liberal or conservative our answer to the child >> should have been the same. "Not everyone believes that Global >> Climate Change is caused by man, this might be a great project >> for a research paper, or science fair." The reason our society >> is becoming so polarized is that some try to interject politics >> everywhere. Just my opinion. > > In a science class, it is important to get the science right, not > to say "not everyone believes ...". Science isn't about what > everyone believes, but about what models work best with the > available data. There are both scientific and political questions > around global warming, and it does help kids to separate the > concepts. Treating the scientific issues as if they were the same > as political opinions is not teaching science---it is political > indoctrination! > > When someone lacks the tools to evaluate the models themselves (as > essentially all the kids, politicians, and even science teachers do > on issues such as global warming), then it becomes necessary to > figure out who does have the skills and tools to evaluate the > science properly, and get their judgments. > > Kids do need to learn how to check the quality of their sources, and > school is about the only place they are likely to get even a > suggestion that they do so. Posts on this thread, including this one What would you do to combat this thinking?, 4/27/08, by cam. Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 4/27/08, by anon. Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 4/30/08, by Kevin. Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 5/03/08, by BillofSC. Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 5/03/08, by Joseph Stevens. Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 5/04/08, by Darwin. Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 5/04/08, by tamagosan. Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 5/05/08, by Bill of SC. Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 5/05/08, by Kevin. Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 5/05/08, by Joseph . Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 5/05/08, by anon. Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 5/05/08, by also anon. Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 5/06/08, by Repeat after me: "I'm the boss, applesauce...". Re: To "repeat after me...", 5/07/08, by cam. Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 5/07/08, by Darwin. Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 5/08/08, by cam. Re: What would you do to combat this thinking?, 5/08/08, by Waski_the_Squirrel.

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