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indirect object pronouns

by estudiante

Jul 16, 2016

I'm actually a student taking an on-line course and I'm having a little trouble recognizing when I have to use indirect object pronouns with indicative verbs of influence in some subjunctive sentences. For example, in the sentence: "The doctor recommends that I take medicine." Do I need to add "me" before "recomienda?" I've seen it as: El doctor me recomienda que yo tome medicina" and I've seen it as just "El doctor recomienda...."

Another example sentence: "I suggest that you don't go" Do I need to add "te" before sugiero? I've seen it as: Te sugiero que no vayas And I've seen it as just: Sugiero que....

Is there an actual rule of when to include those indirect object pronouns?

Thanks much!!

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Ryan Indirect Object Pronouns are tough. Hopefully Daniel chimes in as he's the site's grammar expert. I don't know technically which way is right but when I had about 50&37; of my classes made up of heritage Spanish speakers (they spoke fluently but couldn't necessarily read or write as well) they would use the pronoun with subjunctive clauses like...See More

Jul 16, 2016

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El Morro I am a native speaker and I see a slight difference between El doctor rocomienda que yo tome medicina and El doctor me rocomienda que tome medicina. But I see both as correct grammatically. The first sentence emphasizes the doctor's orders (and thus his expertise), and the focus is on him more than on the patient. In the second sentence the emphasi...See MoreI am a native speaker and I see a slight difference between El doctor rocomienda que yo tome medicina and El doctor me rocomienda que tome medicina. But I see both as correct grammatically. The first sentence emphasizes the doctor's orders (and thus his expertise), and the focus is on him more than on the patient. In the second sentence the emphasis is reversed: the patient's obligation to follow the doctor's recommendation is emphasized. If you use both "me" and "yo" in the same sentence you are really emphasizing the patient. Spanish likes to use redundancy and double negatives every now and then to emphasize or really negate an object, activity or person. No me gusta nada hacer eso (I really, really don't like doing that); A mí me gusta la comida china ("I" is repeated); Quiero un taco de carne asada sin nada (I want my taco plain with no cebolla, cilantro or salsa). On 7/16/16, Ryan wrote: > Indirect Object Pronouns are tough. Hopefully Daniel chimes > in as he's the site's grammar expert. I don't know > technically which way is right but when I had about 50&37; of my > classes made up of heritage Spanish speakers (they spoke > fluently but couldn't necessarily read or write as well) they > would use the pronoun with subjunctive clauses like that. > Note that this fact does not make it correct, but I am > thinking that both options might be alright. As a teacher I > surely wouldn't mark you down if our main objective was to > use the subjunctive correctly and I am guessing many here > wouldn't either. > > On 7/16/16, estudiante wrote: >> I'm actually a student taking an on-line course and I'm >> having a little trouble recognizing when I have to use >> indirect object pronouns with indicative verbs of >> influence in some subjunctive sentences. For example, in >> the sentence: >> "The doctor recommends that I take medicine." >> Do I need to add "me" before "recomienda?" I've seen it >> as: El doctor me recomienda que yo tome medicina" and >> I've seen it as just "El doctor recomienda...." >> >> Another example sentence: >> "I suggest that you don't go" >> Do I need to add "te" before sugiero? I've seen it as: >> Te sugiero que no vayas >> And I've seen it as just: Sugiero que.... >> >> Is there an actual rule of when to include those indirect >> object pronouns? >> >> Thanks much!!

Jul 16, 2016

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Douglas On 7/16/16, estudiante wrote: > I'm actually a student taking an on-line course and I'm > having a little trouble recognizing when I have to use > indirect object pronouns with indicative verbs of > influence in some subjunctive sentences. For example, in > the sentence: > "The doctor recommends that I take medicine." &g...See More

Jul 19, 2016

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Douglas On 7/19/16, Douglas wrote: >> as: El doctor me recomienda > que yo tome medicina" and >> I've seen it as just "El > doctor recomienda...." >> >> Another example sentence: >> "I suggest that you don't go" >> Do I need to add "te" before > sugiero? I've seen it as: >&g...See More

Jul 19, 2016

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Daniel Hanson Sorry for arriving late to this discussion thread. I would say that the use of the indirect object pronoun is typical of native speaker discourse--something not translatable to English usage. It is true what El Morro says as well.

Hope this helps!

Aug 23, 2016

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