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    Re: Isn't that the truth, Dad
    Posted by: Dad on 11/04/09

    The situation is even worse than most realize. Several states have
    sued Pharma over the increasing use of a-typical neuroleptics with
    people in state's care (both disabled and elderly). Here's the
    kicker - they are NOT concerned with the appropriateness of the
    medication, simply the cosdt, because it has been determined that
    Risperdal Seroquel, and Abilify are neither more effective nor more
    safe that Haldol and other older neuroleptics (meaning Pharma lied
    on their FDA patent applications, go figure), but because these
    dr*gs cost more than the generic formulas. So it has nothing to do
    with the damage being done so that caretakers can have a client
    that is "easy to manage", just that the state is paying too much to
    do so.

    It has recently been determined that mood stabilizers, neuroleptics
    and anti-convulsants both cause long-term neurological damage (and
    not just tardive dyskinesia, although that is a very obvious one)
    and materially shorten the patient's life. Why not simply put
    these people down, if you are to be so cavalier about their well-
    being?

    Dan Burton (R-IN) has been one of our staunchest allies in Congress
    in matters such as this, to the point that many on both sides of
    the aisle see him as a gadfly and a nutjob. He stated way back
    in '99 that unless you had a loved one in this situation, you did
    not have a clue about what happens to them. Truer words have
    seldom been spoken by any of the prostitutes that frequent the
    Capitol.

    I think what makes me the maddest about this whole situation is how
    crass the Nanny-State is when someone tries to raise issues with
    how the state oversees the care of the disabled. Often the full
    force of the tax-payer funded legal team comes to bear in defense
    of the state, and citizens trying to get justice served find
    instead that they will bankrupt themselves both financially and
    psychologically long before the state ever admits they were remiss
    in their duties.

    Perhaps what we need is a paradigm shift in our thinking about what
    these people truly need and how best to serve them (did I says
    perhaps???). No one will ever care more for them than their own
    kin, and despite the stories of people being founf neglecting or
    abusing their disabled children or elderly relations, informal
    studies have long found that it is at least 3 times worse when
    these people go into state's care. So what is wrong with paying
    parents or children to care for these people, at say 1/3 the cost
    of residential placement? What could possibly be worng with paying
    for true respite care in-home or in small settings so that the
    primary caregivers can get a much needed break? As an accountant,
    I am prepared to state that in this area, cheaper may actually be
    better.

    The Conservatives don't want to fund serivces of this nature and
    the liberals do not want the proported authority of the State
    deminished. I say we toss the whole lot of them out and elect a
    bunch of people who actually represents their constituants instead
    of select special interests and their own politcal careers.

    On 11/04/09, Mel wrote:
    > "Who will arrest and prosecute the DHHR for their common use
    > of chemical restraints?"
    >
    >
    > We just had a restraint/seclusion bill introduced. I'm lobbying
    > to have chemical restraints tacked on. Ever since my FIL's
    > Alzheimer's progressed to a point, that we can no longer care for
    > him at home, we've been having to advocate sternly (read knock
    > down, fights) to keep the doc's from chemically restraining him.
    > Every time we get rid of one med, they stick him in a chair, he
    > can't get out of (rifton?). We get rid of the chair, another med
    > shows up... It's a nasty little circle.
    >
    > So far we've had to eliminate Seroquel, Xanax, Abilify, high
    > doses of another Valuim (sp?), high doses of a Ritalin type drug,
    > Risperodol, Depakote, and several others. He is not mentally ill,
    > and does not have ADHD. He simply can no longer retrieve his
    > memories.
    >
    > We picked this home, eventhough it's two hours away, because they
    > were supposed to be against this, have a secure garden and ward
    > he could wander in, and are more than fully staffed. I don't
    > understand the need to restrain, especially since he is past the
    > point of violence (never was anyway), and really can't walk very
    > far anyway. I do know he has developed a new, colorful
    > vocabulary, but who the heck cares? He's 78 years old, and if he
    > wants to swear, let him!
    >
    > We're looking at new homes, but our next closest option is 5
    > hours away. We live in such a rural area, that there just isn't
    > any in-home care, that would be adequate, much less appropriate.
    > His health is beginning to fail now too.
    >
    > Alzheimer's is an awful, awful disease.


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    Posts on this thread, including this one

  • Parents arrested after chaining DD son, 11/04/09, by Mel.
  • Re: Parents arrested after chaining DD son, 11/04/09, by Dad.
  • Re: Isn't that the truth, Dad, 11/04/09, by Mel.
  • Re: Isn't that the truth, Dad, 11/04/09, by Dad.
  • Re: Parents arrested after chaining DD son, 11/04/09, by AM.

     
     

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