Re: Who's to blame?

by Linda

Apr 13, 2016

I normally work in one district, andI've never had a problem before at this school. But I had 7th graders yesterday, and they were horrendous. All the classes. Constantly talking, would not behave during study hall. Entering the classroom noisy. I had to sent one boy to the office because he pulled another student's hair and made her upset. Another boy cursed out loud. Sometimes I've had one class that acts up but this was all the classes. I'm always strict and professional and don't let things slide. I've never had this situation. I know students are testing and need to let of steam, but I have a feeling it might be the teacher they have. I know the regular teacher is out - and they have a long-term sub. Could this be part of the reason? The lesson plan was very confusing and there was no seating chart. I will not be going back to this teacher but from doing learning support I've noticed that students act very differently depending on who the teacher is.

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Sam Foley On 4/13/16, Linda wrote: > I normally work in one district, andI've never had a problem > before at this school. But I had 7th graders yesterday, and > they were horrendous. All the classes. Constantly talking, > would not behave during study hall. Entering the classroom > noisy. I had to sent one boy to the office because he pulled ...See More

Apr 13, 2016

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Ze Povinho I have had cases like this in the totalitarian regime that passed for a district many times. Examples:

1. The regular teacher could not impose any kind of order and I was sent to help her. It did not work. About 95 percent of the pupils acted as if we did not exist. Middle school language arts.

2. I was sent to help a middle schoo...See More

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pixie agreeing with Ze Ze is correct; It depends on the students. Some will take advantage of the fact that they have a sub and use that as an excuse for bad behavior, but the fact that there are plenty of well-behaved kids who maintain their self-control, sub or no sub, shows that it is the kids, and not the sub, who are the determining factor.

4/13/16, Ze Pov...See MoreZe is correct; It depends on the students. Some will take advantage of the fact that they have a sub and use that as an excuse for bad behavior, but the fact that there are plenty of well-behaved kids who maintain their self-control, sub or no sub, shows that it is the kids, and not the sub, who are the determining factor.

4/13/16, Ze Povinho wrote: > I have had cases like this in the totalitarian regime that > passed for a district many times. Examples: > > 1. The regular teacher could not impose any kind of order > and I was sent to help her. It did not work. About 95 > percent of the pupils acted as if we did not exist. Middle > school language arts. > > 2. I was sent to help a middle school math teacher whose > pupils did not pay attention to her. Same result. > > 3. I covered numerous classes in which the regular teacher > was the subject of abuse, and where the administration > sided with the students. > > 4. In all cases, the assistant director of certificated > personnel would have stated that I would be the one at > fault for poor classroom management, and that I was > supposed to expect students to challenge me. I was also > to understand that they came from disadvantaged > backgrounds and that times had changed-implying that it > was the norm to tolerate aberrant behaviors from the > pupils. > > Give a fool the power of life and death, or in this case the > power to hire or ruin a livelihood, and you see what > happens. > > Anyway, there are situations where there is nothing we can > do to bring order to an already corrupted and dystopian > environment no matter what STEEDO or any other sub > miracle training fairy tale program tells you. > > Look at the room. Is it messy when you come in? > Look at the way the school is run. Who is in command? > The students or the teachers? > > Do you have backup? Can you send students to the office > without fear of retaliation? Do you always have to watch > your back? > > How is the neighborhood like? Is there parental support or > the kids are the masters? > > Do the teachers, admins, and district make excuses for > misbehavior ("They're poor/disadvantaged/insert the > relevant crutch of the day)? > > If so, you are not at fault. > > I don't fix decades of attitudes of entitlement, poor > parenting, corrupted environments, and the devaluing of > education in six hours. >

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