i think it is a huge first step. It is always good to get the call.
Let me know how it turns out!

On 2/20/09, Debbie wrote:
> I am certainly hoping that they make him a job offer. The
> interview is only 30 minutes. Not sure what the chances are of
> being able to secure a job. The fact that they are bringing him
> in is a good sign, don't you think?
>
>
> On 2/20/09, Lisa wrote:
>> That is AWESOME!!!
>> Seriously, there is nothing better for $, benefits, job
>> security etc. It also solves the problem of you not being
>> finished yet. I always tell my husband if I could go to DODDS
>> in Japan and have the base amenities and the culture outside
>> the gate, I would never leave!
>>
>> Definately tell me how it works out!
>>
>> On 2/19/09, Debbie wrote:
>>> Well, my husband got an interview for DoDDS at their job
>>> fair in March. I am hoping this will be it. What do you
>>> think?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/18/09, lisa wrote:
>>>> Sorry PI is Philipines. Brent schools are there,
>>>> Manila, Subic and maybe
>>>> another. There are a lot of schools in Japan too.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/18/09, DEbbie wrote:
>>>>> What is PI? Sorry, I have brain freeze. :) Brent
>>>>> schools are in Japan? I am lost.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/17/09, Lisa wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About the heritage thing, the weird thing is that i
>>>>>> didn't hear slurs. some political stuff that was
>>>>>> parroted, but no big deal. what was
>>>>> weird
>>>>>> was that the average person we had contact with
>>>>>> didn't care, but the ministry had its rules about
>>>>>> content and books. It only took one parent to
>>>>>> complain to make something a big deal. Lots of
>>>>>> stuff was banned the kids just figured out what it
>>>>>> was and ordered it on Amazon.or. "What is
>>>>>> _______?" "Sorry it is illegal for me to
>>>>>> tell you." "Ok I'll look it up later at
>>>>>> home."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check out international schools in Japan or PI.
>>>>>> Brent schools are supposed to be good. Brent Subic
>>>>>> (there is more than one) is on the old navy base.
>>>>>> There are lots of great adventures out there. I'm
>>>>>> excited for you. L.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/17/09, Debbie wrote:
>>>>>>> It is a computer that pulls your name for DoDDS?
>>>>>>> Are you serious? So it is just random. Well that
>>>>>>> would make sense for people who have been waiting
>>>>>>> years. I wonder what the criteria is for the
>>>>>>> computer. That really sucks!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I could keep my heritage a secret. What would
>>>>>>> probably bother me, would be the slurs. My
>>>>>>> husband does not want to live in a place where he
>>>>>>> cannot have all of us. Rightfully, so!! :) So,
>>>>>>> Bahrain would be out of the question. We are
>>>>>>> hoping to go to Okinawa. I have heard so many
>>>>>>> great things about it. It is pretty far away, and
>>>>>>> I know I would be homesick, but I could get over
>>>>>>> that as long as we are all together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/17/09, Lisa wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, I agree I had friends that worked in Israel
>>>>>>>> and they loved it but they had to follow the
>>>>>>>> security rules from the embassy and ended up
>>>>>>>> locked down in their apt a lot. This was
>>>>>>>> several years ago. Pakistan is really cool, but
>>>>>>>> it is poor too so is Bangladesh. Security is a
>>>>>>>> worry too at times. Gulf is very safe, but you
>>>>>>>> would have to not let on about your heritage
>>>>>>>> and the censorship is stupid and would get on
>>>>>>>> your nerves. I think I haven't been selected by
>>>>>>>> DODDS for several reasons, base closures and
>>>>>>>> transfers take priority, This summer there were
>>>>>>>> 100 teachers displaced and waiting. There is no
>>>>>>>> retirement age and people hold on. Also many of
>>>>>>>> the bases are going to 6 month deployments
>>>>>>>> without dependents. From my aunt, I heard
>>>>>>>> Livorno in Italy has lost 1/2 its kids. I
>>>>>>>> doesn't help that it is a computer pulling
>>>>>>>> names. in July I was notified of a job in
>>>>>>>> Bahrain but it was without dependants. I have a
>>>>>>>> husband and 2 kids. My degree doesn't line up
>>>>>>>> exactly with my certification and what I want
>>>>>>>> to teach and I don't think that the computer
>>>>>>>> can sort through all of it. I keep updating my
>>>>>>>> file, but once I heard about the bases slowing
>>>>>>>> family deployments I am more doubtful than
>>>>>>>> ever. They also wanted a ton of expereince when
>>>>>>>> I first signed up.. I don't know the
>>>>>>>> requirements now. One great thing about them is
>>>>>>>> that they ahve thier own system for teaching
>>>>>>>> certificates, so once you are in you maintain
>>>>>>>> with them and don't have to jump through the
>>>>>>>> hoops set my state. We both have been teaching
>>>>>>>> Elem for years and love it, but originally we
>>>>>>>> were HS people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/16/09, Debbie wrote:
>>>>>>>>> That is pretty helpful. I would not consider
>>>>>>>>> Israel and I am Jewish ( my husband is not).
>>>>>>>>> Scares me too much as well. I too do not know
>>>>>>>>> if I could handle the poverty in India. I
>>>>>>>>> would be willing to go to China as would my
>>>>>>>>> husband. I could consider Pakistan as we have
>>>>>>>>> very wealthy friends who live there. They
>>>>>>>>> went to school with my brothers here in the
>>>>>>>>> States.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why do you think you have not yet been
>>>>>>>>> selected to work for DoDDS? What subjects do
>>>>>>>>> you and your husband teach? It may be on
>>>>>>>>> another posting of yours, but I cannot
>>>>>>>>> remember.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/15/09, Lisa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, i totally understand! My kids are now
>>>>>>>>>> jsut old enough that I have to worry about
>>>>>>>>>> school from their perspective besides just
>>>>>>>>>> friends, soon enough I will see if they are
>>>>>>>>>> into sports..... I'm glad that I just don't
>>>>>>>>>> have to worry so much now about bills. It
>>>>>>>>>> takes a lot of weight off. They best place
>>>>>>>>>> is hard..... As for the Middle East safety
>>>>>>>>>> is not a problem, REALLY.I was there in
>>>>>>>>>> 2001 and it was really ok. DOn't believe
>>>>>>>>>> TV. I probably would be nervous to go to
>>>>>>>>>> Israel to work more than any others. Some
>>>>>>>>>> of the for profit schools are not that
>>>>>>>>>> great and there is not a lot do. Dubai has
>>>>>>>>>> a lot to do but can be expensive. I
>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't go to Pakistan right now, but I
>>>>>>>>>> would go to India or Bangladesh if I
>>>>>>>>>> thought I could do the poverty. North
>>>>>>>>>> Africa ok, Sub Saharan too much day to day
>>>>>>>>>> violence for me- car jacking, house
>>>>>>>>>> invasion. China is polluted, but you can
>>>>>>>>>> make a lot of money. Beijing, Shanghai have
>>>>>>>>>> some excellent school. Manila does too.
>>>>>>>>>> Latin America, Peru has a good reputation.
>>>>>>>>>> haven't heard too much about making money
>>>>>>>>>> though. THere are great school everywhere,
>>>>>>>>>> and some crappy places to work you sort of
>>>>>>>>>> have to research as
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> jobs come up. It is better to work at a
>>>>>>>>>> school that is International and not a
>>>>>>>>>> school for rich local kids. it is better to
>>>>>>>>>> work for a non profit. Surf the web and
>>>>>>>>>> see. L. On 2/15/09, Debbie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Better late than never, right? Ok, so
>>>>>>>>>>> where is the best place to live as well
>>>>>>>>>>> as the safest place. If we were to go the
>>>>>>>>>>> Middle East, where she we go....I want a
>>>>>>>>>>> really good school system not only for
>>>>>>>>>>> us, but for our children. It would be
>>>>>>>>>>> wonderful to be debt-free and to be able
>>>>>>>>>>> to live a comfortable life for a change.
>>>>>>>>>>> We are so tired of the struggling. We are
>>>>>>>>>>> not looking to be wealthy, just
>>>>>>>>>>> comfortable. Be able to pay the bills and
>>>>>>>>>>> have left over to enjoy and also to put
>>>>>>>>>>> away for retirement and college for the
>>>>>>>>>>> kids.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/15/09, Lisa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Morning! Well maybe my post is
>>>>>>>>>>>> going the long way around. I'm too ling
>>>>>>>>>>>> winded anyway ;-) Basically, I think
>>>>>>>>>>>> you should go for it and see what
>>>>>>>>>>>> happens. Tieonline and QSI might be
>>>>>>>>>>>> your best bets. You could
>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>> just about finish the classes, if
>>>>>>>>>>>> required, by late Aug. Expereince may
>>>>>>>>>>>> hold you back and may not, so much is
>>>>>>>>>>>> right place at right time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pay scales vary widely. It can be
>>>>>>>>>>>> unintentionally misleading. Salaries
>>>>>>>>>>>> range from 15k (no kidding) to 55+K.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some schools in awesome locations are
>>>>>>>>>>>> offering a partially subsidized working
>>>>>>>>>>>> holiday and others you can pay off all
>>>>>>>>>>>> your debt by xmas. You need to figure
>>>>>>>>>>>> out how much money you need to send to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the US to cover bills, storage, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> For many people that put lots of jobs
>>>>>>>>>>>> in Latin America and Western Europe out
>>>>>>>>>>>> of range in the beginning at least. As
>>>>>>>>>>>> a working couple with 2 kids we save 1
>>>>>>>>>>>> salary + depending on how much travel
>>>>>>>>>>>> we do xmas and spring break. we don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> go to the states for xmas. I couldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> even get to disney land and taco bell
>>>>>>>>>>>> when i taught in the states now we
>>>>>>>>>>>> debate Cairo or Rome.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The big question is WHAT CAN WE SAVE,
>>>>>>>>>>>> not what do you pay! Remember the
>>>>>>>>>>>> salary is tax free in the US and
>>>>>>>>>>>> overseas. You keep the gross and get
>>>>>>>>>>>> housing, insurance, tickets,
>>>>>>>>>>>> tuition,some shipping allowance and
>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe some utilities, for all 4 of you
>>>>>>>>>>>> if you are both working . If you pay
>>>>>>>>>>>> taxes like in Germany they will pay you
>>>>>>>>>>>> way more. Let me know how you are
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/15/09, Lisa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For some reason my answer didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> post!! Grrr. I think it went to some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> admin review place, whatever that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> means! If it doesn't show up my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday, I will write again. L On
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2/14/09, Debbie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I spoke with my admissions person
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday. For me to complete my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> French grades 7-12, I only need 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more courses and will need to write
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 state exams. I also wanted to add
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Special Ed, so I am not sure how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many more courses I need. I did the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> student teaching practicum in 1996
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I was pregnant with our first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daughter, so that is out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would be willing to go this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> September. There is nothing holding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us back at this time. Since, I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unemployed right now, and he is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done in June with his long-term sub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assignment (unless they offer him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F/T), we are more than ready to go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We do have a home here, but we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> willing to rent it out if need be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the pay scale going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overseas? By the time my husband is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finished, he will have 1 year of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teaching experience under his belt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/14/09, Lisa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DODDS will take people with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependents, no problem. If you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are not quite certified it will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be more difficult. Are you close
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to finishing? I think it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> College of New Jersey has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program designed for people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overseas, Some place in Michigan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and also George Mason outside DC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some states will let you do a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first year job in lieu of student
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teaching. Some int'l schools will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hire you in that situation. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best school of course will hold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out for the most expereince and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> education. However you can wait
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the perfect school IF you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no overseas experience. Once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your foot is in the door it is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different recruiting experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You will have a tough time to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a school that will take 3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependents because they provided
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> housing, airfare, tuition and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insurance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For overseas $$ is different. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course need to consider how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much you need to cover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obligations at home, and what you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to save for retirement. Most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schools don't pay into SSI, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can if you are willing to pay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your portion and the employer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your husband will not make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $40,000 overseas, but he will get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> housing, some utilities, full
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insurance, private school
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tuition, probably no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commute/freedom from having 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars., no taxes! You must ask
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you can save!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The good news is that I'm hearing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more and more that job fairs are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out and tel. interviews are in!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is your timeline to go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overseas? Sept, or farther out? L
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/13/09, Debbie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My husband is the teacher and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my background is HR. Although,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was looking at going back to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school to finish my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certification which I started
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from 1995-1996. I had to stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as we had our first child and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then our second one 18 months
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> later. My husband teaches
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> science. We are pretty open to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> areas. He is currently earning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 40k as a first year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teacher. He has a BS and 34 hrs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toward Masters. He has 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> courses left to finish to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his Masters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know what other info you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need. Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/13/09, Lisa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, My aunt worked for DODDS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for 30+ years and I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friends that have worked for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DODDS and for Int'l schools.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing compares to DODDS!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can get in go for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My hsuband and I have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to 9 years. It is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> super hard to get in, even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for people with lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expereince and suposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connections. Luck I guess!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The schools don't compare but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the search agencies for Int'l
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools are much easier to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> utilize and your chance of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting a job are 1000%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher. DODDS are all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American kids, In't schools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Until now there has been a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teacher shortage overseas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Over the last several years I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been working with recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduates with no experience
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so they do get hired. A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collegue last year, 22 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight out of college,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broke her first teaching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contract (did 1 of 2 years)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and was hired for a new inl't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job for the next year by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone interview. If she can,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you teach??? Your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kids will be no problem if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both of you teach. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually get 1 kid free per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teacher. All
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> benefits/flights/tuition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never done ISS because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they wanted all these essays
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and when I first got started
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't have the minimum #
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of years required to sign up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have only used Search
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Associates. Thier website has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some good links and info.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They have a job fair in late
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> June after school gets out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They will be honest about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your chances. TIE online I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think is cheap or free and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many hires are interviewed on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype. I know some people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that have been very happy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with QSI. qsi.org They have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an online application and are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all over the world in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting places.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of your chance depends
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on your flexibility for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location, type of school, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> salary requirements. Do you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need anything special for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your kids? Let me know if I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can help.L On 2/10/09, Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Lisa:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have read several of your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts and they have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite helpful. My husband
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a first year teacher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2nd career) and is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently a long-term sub.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His certification is in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> science (Biology-grades
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7-12), but has also been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teaching physical science.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He applied to DoDDS and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DDESS and due to the budget
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crisis, who knows if that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will even pan out. My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question is what is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likelihood if he were to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apply through some of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other agencies you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned that he would get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a job. We have 2 children
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well. I don't think he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be able to go to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job fairs. I looked into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ISS online, and have been a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little apprehensive. How do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these agencies compare to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoDDS?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>

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