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Re: Airline surcharge clarification
Posted by MR BODEN, misinformed on 4/23/08

    Actually Francoise the companies do not know who they will be
    using until the very late stages. You are absolutely WRONG if
    you think the companies do know. They may know what space they
    have with which airlines, but do not know which group will be
    on which airline until very late. So, actually you are wrong
    when you say the companies do know what airlines each group
    will be on. They have contracts with almost every airline, so
    how could they know. As for the enrollment fee, your right
    they really are only for the companies gain. However, they are
    there because if someone signs up and then cancels when all
    that effort was put in to get the trip started and to save
    space in hotels and airlines the companies does not have to
    take a complete hit.

    On 4/19/08, Papa Gio wrote:
    > Thanks for the info. The point I was trying to make is that
    > all of the travel companies tell you that your airfare is
    > included in the program fee which is fixed; then they turn
    > around and add the fuel adjustment at a later stage in the
    > game. If the airfare is included in the program fee, then
    any
    > additional fuel adjustment costs should be adsorbed by the
    > travel company and not the travler; n'est ce pas?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On 4/19/08, Francoise Boden wrote:
    >> I am reading what everyone is saying about airline
    >> surcharges,and I used to be in that business. I am a French
    >> teacher now.
    >> 1. The student companies do not purchase the airline tickets
    >> until they have received the final balance for your trip,
    >> typically 90 days before departure. Although the airlines
    >> have blocked the seat for them and have required a deposit
    >> for each seat, the airline cannot and will not guarantee the
    >> final ticket price until the ticket is actually purchased. A
    >> ticket to France from SFO could be a certain price 6 months
    >> ago, but because of fluctuating gas prices could be higher
    >> or lower at the time of purchase. The smart travel company
    >> should predict that and charge more than what the actual
    >> price at the time of your quote (when you sign on). That way
    >> they are covering any loss or any last minute surcharge. A
    >> company that charges you just one month before is
    >> irresponsible because by now they have received all your
    >> money and should have bought the tickets as soon as you paid
    >> the final balance.
    >> 2. Each airline surcharge is different. I was shopping for
    >> myself for this summer to go to France from SFO and the
    >> different amount of surcharges from airline to airline was
    >> incredible. The least expensive airline is Air Canada: the
    >> base ticket was $1,068, and by the time taxes and fees were
    >> added the ticket was $1,131. United Airlines was one of the
    >> most expensive: the base ticket was $1,000 (so at first it
    >> looks like a good deal), but at the end the ticket price was
    >> $1,478!!! American Airlines was from $1,200 base to $1,700
    >> final price!!! Air France was from $1,200 base to $1,500
    > final.
    >> In conclusion, when booking with a company, ask specific
    >> questions about which airline they will use and check the
    >> airline site for the surcharges. If the company tells you we
    >> don't know who we are going to use, that is not true! They
    >> have contracts with specific airlines and know exactly who
    >> they will use, especially huge established companies like
    >> EF. Also, their membership fee is a joke like EF, and
    >> others. It means nothing and just adds to their profit.
    >> Challenge it and they will back down and offer it as a
    >> discount, or tell them to put it towards the so-called
    >> surcharge.


 
 
 
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